I think I have found a limit to where Logistics Pipes are just dumb. That limit is, trying to use them in conjunction with Tinker's Construct (can it be done? Yes. should it be done? Absolutely not.)

Hmm... I still can't decide on a power system. I kind of want a boiler again, but, expensive, maintenance... And I'm not sure what I'd want to do for fueling it. Hmmmm..... Decisions!

I think I've basically eliminated IC2 power generation for now (nuke and HV Solar manufacturing to come later)

I also need to figure out my new bases' powerplan

And also from what resources I want to build it

I have no clue about power at all... I've been vaguely thinking to make it run on blood maybe.

I should probably just make everything bee powered

I know there's at least one way to burn food for energy, and I've got plenty of wheat from my bees!

@KevinvanderVelden You just have to live on bees.

Well I could go my usual route of mass boilers + mass skyquarries

But I thought I'd try something different this time!

I think I'm going to try using blood magic to power all of my base. Sounds like a challenge.

@KevinvanderVelden You should.

How do you get power from bloodmagic?

I don't see that anywhere

@KevinvanderVelden You can create lava/power generators or something with it.

Aah that makes sense

The negative effects sound bad though.

If you fuck up and run out of stored lp and are running around somewhere far away you might end up with nausea until the shortage is fixed... And moving any serious distance on nausea sounds bad.

How much energy does an mfr autospawner uses per spawn?

No idea, wiki says "A lot"

@KevinvanderVelden Yea, that's all I found too. Terrible information that.

We (mostly you right now) should do SCIENCE to it!

Do you know of a way to trick a default spawner in believing a player is nearby so it keeps spawning mobs?

Since I kind of need an influx of mobs all the time to keep the lp system going.

@Arperum I don't think so, maybe rotarycraft

But the main problem will be that mobs despawn if there are no players withing X range when the chunk is loaded

@KevinvanderVelden That can be fixed by building it in a separate dimension only used for mobfarming.

True, we should get one of those

Maybe I should put my bees in a pocket dimension as well actually

Sounds like a plan

It can't calculate through dimensions, so that problem can be seen as solved, the part where default mobspawners keep going is not.

afaik, there's no way to force-spawn mobs from spawners in this pack, short of the MFR autospawner

though honestly, "a lot" is kind of a relative term

I'm considering going for rotary craft, partially cause I'm in a high altitude biome so I can use the watermill to gather power

maybe I'll go the lame way of transfering power though, through the rotary dynamo and redstone conduits

I might look into animal breeding with MFR, animals work too for me, and I just found something that would simplify some stuff.

And I can speed up their growth for some lp cost. If I add enough runes of sacrifice I think I can make that work. plus placing a couple things around that steal the hp of any player that enters my base to replenish lp. (to a minimum of three hearts)

MFR can also speed up growth :)

Also, that sounds like a good way to keep visitors away ;)

@Jochem It would eat my health too. And if they come over via the blood teleport system thing I'm planning to set up, the least they could do is pay for the transport a bit :)

@Jochem I'll have to check what costs most power, the lp way costs about 400 lp, I have no clear translation of lp to EU/other power systems yet though.

and makes them grow up in ~3 minutes instead of 20 minutes.

Add a few sigils of breeding as well

That should work

Hmm, I wonder if you can sacrifice fish in some manner

@KevinvanderVelden I would be surprised if you could, fish aren't ever entities, just items

@Jochem true, it would however be in the style of the mod I think

yeah, it would

@KevinvanderVelden sigil of breeding? Haven't seen any way to use fish. If mariculture adds living fish, then yes, otherwise I'd say no.

@Arperum Sigil of breeding from ars magica, that and a sigil of butchery are our meat/wool/leather farm

But just take the breeding one and you've got a free sources of animals

@KevinvanderVelden Ah, because blood magic has sigils too.

You can automate your watering can effect with blood magic too.

@KevinvanderVelden cc @gnovice

@KevinvanderVelden I doubt you can sacrifice fish. They are never an entity, just an item. The most you can do with them power-wise is to turn them into fish oil and power a biogas engine (not quite as well as liquid honey would, but close). I'm currently putting in the infrastructure for this. :)

@JeffreyLin The APIs changed and the dev couldn't support all of them anymore, afaik. There was also something about some mod not allowing interaction with outside tools explicitly

mostly the dev just not updating though

not sure, honestly

@JeffreyLin I was pretty sure they disabled that

like... a bunch of versions ago

they produce something ridiculously low like .1MJ/t

I really hope whoever else is on your server agrees with you, it's going to be painfully laggy if you run enough redstone engines to do anything useful

For the record, MFR Harvesters and Planters won't work with Magical Crops in the version we currently run, but support for them has been added to the newest version.

@JeffreyLin It was a MiscPeripherals thing

@JeffreyLin Nope. OpenPeripherals is a thing, MiscPeripherals is no longer.

@JeffreyLin Nuke as in bomb or nuke as in IC2 reactor?

The bomb is stupid now. It takes way too much work to set up.

there are a couple things that can go in the center, tnt goes in the outer circle.

@JeffreyLin clockwork engines

@Unionhawk specifically early game power? Clockwork engines

Though I usually skip those

Oh yeah, those are the handcrank engines. Right, right...

stirling engines are kinda handy too, or once you have a stack of charcoal to feed it once every so often, hobbyist steam engines

those things are more efficient than any other engine in the game, for MJ / charcoal

I have added a deep storage unit for sapplings

There were 64K of them in our AE system >.>

@KevinvanderVelden nice.

Also added apples, though we "only" have 10k of those

Wither fight incoming!

Wither fight over

Also: Wither fight: no problem! After wither fight 403278394 deaths due to being an idiot -,-

Also a wither is worth 7 research points of all the basic things

@JeffreyLin roughly speaking

@JeffreyLin 403 million actually ;P

Stupidity

First time I was to busy typing about the spider attacking me to notice he was slowly hitting me toward a sludge pit ><

Then I figured I'd kill some witches! And noticed their potions did work on me and I had to escape

So I portable holed away

And then the hole closed

Also, 14 wither skeleton skulls

... MAGIC

Also random button mashing on the keyboard

@JeffreyLin Skill.

Sure, why not

Also I just got 4 blocks of gold from sword drops from mobs in the nether :|

When @KevinvanderVelden does something, he does it by the millions. You should know this by now.

@JeffreyLin He has a bee mash his spacebar for him.

I noticed that Cobalt has a faster mining speed. Is there any reason to have to mine anything at the Manyullyn level of hardness or no?

I mean, I guess probably blocks of the stuff, but...