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Braiam

7:00 PM

don't happen here

Alvar

@Braiam u suck ;)

Braiam

@Alvar yeah, Imma sucker for sweet potato

Seth

Moderator around?

Well can we close this as a dupe while we wait please:

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Q: How can I get a exFAT drive to (auto) mount?

I have a flash drive that is formatted exFAT and when I plug it into my Ubuntu machine I get a mount error. How can I auto-mount exFAT formatted drives?

I've since found a duplicate.

Braiam

@Seth attach a custom flag ;)

Seth

I will if a mod doesn't show up.. It's just so inefficient.

There, done.

Just my luck that I only find the duplicate after asking the question lol.

Is it just me, or is this sad?

Alvar

7:06 PM

@Seth do you know how I modify the top bar in gnome-flashback?

Seth

Yes. You don't.

I don't think you can edit the panel.

Alvar

what?

it's just blank....

Seth

What do you want to edit about it?

Oh..

Alvar

on my laptop I can...

Seth

Screenshot?

Alvar

7:08 PM

I want to edit

Seth

Edit wat?

what part?

Alvar

@Seth the top bar where the menus should be

right now is blank

working on screenshots

that's my desktop

and that is my laptop, I want it to look like my laptop

I use gnome flashback on both but cant figure out how to get the top bar the way I want..

Seth

Wow. I dunno how do did that. The panels were never very cooperative for me. Let me log into gnome-flashback and do some testing.

o/ @MadaraUchiha

Alvar

@Seth ok, on my laptop I can edit the panels with alt + rightclick but on my desktop I cant

Madara Uchiha

@Seth Yo

Seth

7:15 PM

@Alvar gnome-session --version for both machines please.

I can edit with Alt + right click too

Alvar

@Seth it's the same version on both

3.9.90

I think I will reinstall gnome flashback

hmmm

trying no effects

Jeremy

Hey @Seth

Seth

@Jeremy Hey :)

@Alvar Oh yeah, I was using no effects.

Jeremy

How's sudobot?

Seth

I've been pretty busy lately, but he's OK.

He isn't running right now because a bug in my display driver prevents me from using X forwarding in ssh, so I can only start him in Windows.

Alvar

7:23 PM

YES FLASHBACK NO EFFECTS WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

I'm saved!

Seth

\o/

must be a compiz thing.

Alvar

yep

deleted the panel and created a new one

now the white line is gone :)

Braiam

@Seth so lonesome in the 1st place, huh?

(not even trying)

Alvar

haha

jrg

morning

Alvar

7:31 PM

the hat race is on!

@jrg morning? where are you?

Seth

@Braiam eh?

@Alvar Oh.. the white line was because you were editing it (it was in the equivalent of Windows' "unlocked" state)

All I was saying @Braiam is that we don't have many voters..

jrg

@Alvar UTC-5.

so it's 2PM, but I just got here, so, morning.

Seth

If you compare the reputation tab with the voters tab it's just... sad :(

@jrg Still morning here :)

Braiam

@Seth kinda my point :P

Seth

@Braiam Ah, I see.

jrg

7:34 PM

ok, time to just slog through ALLLLL the email.

Alvar

@Seth I had the white line since I first started using flashback

it's not there when I edit/use my new top bar (removed the last one)

Braiam

does nobody see something weird with this question? askubuntu.com/q/32632/169736

Alvar

@Braiam pfff

chuck yeager hat?! WTF

Braiam

meh, what the with this askubuntu.com/q/393513/169736

that question reads: How to download the internez???

jrg

Alvar

7:38 PM

@Braiam I know that's why u close it as soon as possible

@jrg noticed that just now? ;)

Braiam

@jrg HAT!

Alvar

@jrg the icon has also a hat!

jrg

@Alvar I rarely open VLC. :P

YAY.

HAT!

Alvar

@jrg haha

@jrg 20:38 (8PM) CET :)

Seth

Hey @jrg could you close and merge this please?

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Q: How can I get a exFAT drive to (auto) mount?

I have a flash drive that is formatted exFAT and when I plug it into my Ubuntu machine I get a mount error. How can I auto-mount exFAT formatted drives?

usb-drive automount

jrg

7:40 PM

sure

Alvar

@Seth you need to click it as fast as possible after you've logged in.

jrg

done

Seth

@Alvar Click what?

Alvar

@Seth nvm sry

nooooo cna't review more suggest edits for today :(

Madara Uchiha

@Braiam still around?

Braiam

7:44 PM

yah?

Madara Uchiha

So yeah, I installed Steam, installing dotnet40 gave me "Installing" for a while, then vanished.

Installing xna40 gave me an error "can't find the runtime" or something similar, then waited a while and vanished as well

Braiam

mm... yeah, I got that one too

wait.

Madara Uchiha

So now I run it?

Braiam

I could try, but I'm not 100% sure it will work

Madara Uchiha

8:02 PM

@Braiam crashes

@Braiam Again, when I try to enter the "new computer code"

Nathan Osman

@MadaraUchiha Steam has a native Linux client.

Why are you using the Windows version in Wine?

Madara Uchiha

@NathanOsman It doesn't run Terraria though :)

Nathan Osman

Oh :(

Madara Uchiha

You know what bothers me the most?

Terraria has an Android version, but not a Linux one

3

Braiam

:(

Alvar

8:13 PM

@MadaraUchiha xD

Letharion

8:24 PM

I'm trying to find information about installing on a usb drive. I assume the question is around, but all questions I find are about installing from a usb drive. Should I ask a new question, or does anyone know what I should search for?

Mateo

maybe this one?

66

Q: How do I install Ubuntu to a USB key? (without using Startup Disk Creator)

If you are hurrying to reply, System → Administration → StartUp Disk Creator -- no, that's not what I'm talking about. I want to try Ubuntu 11.04's Unity without touching my existing Ubuntu install. To do this, I need to install the nVidia drivers first (sigh). To do this, I need changes t...

installation usb

Ell

Evenin' all

Alvar

@Letharion unetbootin

Ell

I'm trying to run a windows .Net application (day-z alpha) with wine on ubuntu. It says I need mono 2.8 or greater. I've compiled mono 3.2.7 which supports .Net 4.5 but wine still tells me I need 2.8 or greater

Does anyone here know how to get wine to detect the updated mono?

Braiam

@Ell did you installed mono in a patch wine can find?

Letharion

8:34 PM

@Alvar @Mateo Thanks. :)

Ell

@Braiam I'm gonna go with no

but never mind

I've ballsed up my install

I'll try from scratch another time

Lucio

Have someone ever heard about okTurtle?

イオニカビザウ

Wow, I got a gold badge. :-) See my hat.

Lucio

8:53 PM

@イオニカビザウ cool :)

jrg

@Lucio i've heard plenty.

some good things, some bad things.

Thomas W.

9:10 PM

@jrg you should burn this

jrg

k

PyRulez

9:26 PM

I downloaded Eclipse, and most of the drop down buttons didn't have items. How would I add the usual items.

Or otherwise recieve them.

Seth

@MadaraUchiha .NET 40? What time period do you come from? o_O

@PyRulez I think there's a question about this..

PyRulez

Okay, let me look

Seth

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Q: Saucy upgrade causes menu problem in Eclipse

Has anyone been through this: Using Ubuntu 13.10 (with JDK 1.7.0_45). Download and uncompress Eclipse Kepler for Java EE Developers. The software menus are messed up. I didn't notice similar problems in other software. When I click any menu of eclipse, the drop-down seems to be "cut". Sometim...

13.10 eclipse

Maybe?

PyRulez

Exactly Right. Can I reward you with reputation in a chat room?

Seth

Nope, but that's okay :)

All I did was pull up an existing question ;)

PyRulez

9:37 PM

Well, thanks.

Thomas W.

@Seth That doesn't have an accepted answer, does it have an answer that works though?

PyRulez

It has a big answer, so it is probably right.

Dumb people have short attention spans.

Seth

@ThomasW. I dunno. I don't use Eclipse, I use netbeans.

Or sublime.

Thomas W.

@Seth i prefer hand-coding everything lol

not even bothering ot use an IDE :P

Seth

Java can be long winded though :P

Alvar

9:39 PM

I don't install eclipse...

Nathan Osman

Hmm... my N5 suddenly doesn't want to charge via any USB cables...

Seth

:O

PyRulez

productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/nexus/lI6A3fA8bvw/…

Nathan Osman

I've got it turned off and plugged in directly via AC.

It's still got about 68% charge left.

I mean it runs fine - it's not like it won't turn on.

PyRulez

Wait, how do you know how much charge it has if its off.

Nathan Osman

9:41 PM

It's just discharging and not charging. That's the problem.

PyRulez

TechnoPath?

Nathan Osman

@PyRulez I just turned it off.

PyRulez

Ah

Nathan Osman

I'll see if it charges when it isn't running.

PyRulez

Okay

Nathan Osman

9:42 PM

The display informs me that it's charging.

But who knows if that can be believed.

Okay, so it does charge without any problems while the device is off.

Alvar

dupe of how to install ubuntu, askubuntu.com/q/394110/10698

<--- out of votes

Jeremy

10:05 PM

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blade19899

reuters.com/article/2013/12/21/…

(Reuters) - As a key part of a campaign to embed encryption software that it could crack into widely used computer products, the U.S. National Security Agency arranged a secret $10 million contract with RSA, one of the most influential firms in the computer security industry, Reuters has learned

Braiam

@Seth I expect several "workarounds" that bug

@blade19899 too late

that's yesterday's news

blade19899

aaahhh

I work 7 days a weeks. So, sometimes am a little behind.

I wouldn't be surprised if they managed to back-door an open-source product.

If that happens, All hell breaks loose.

hbdgaf

10:28 PM

@blade19899 I posted this days ago

okay A day ago chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/12769696#12769696

Alvar

hmm, I got a cool computer :P pastebin.com/vzYNqQYv

jrg

@Alvar nice

my laptop is a little on the warm side right now. :P

Alvar

@jrg well this is a desktop pc that I built myself ;)

IT'S THE @Rinzwind !!!

Rinzwind

:)

Alvar

My hat is cooler than yours! ;)

anyone got an idea what this means? Notice: Undefined offset: 3 in /var/www/guide.php on line 10

apache error from my php file...

blade19899

11:02 PM

@Alvar, syntax error on line 10? missing ";"?

@hbdgaf. working seven days a week here. Can't be on askubuntu every day. xD

Alvar

@blade19899 didn't change anything on line 10, I added two global variables that went to localhost, and commented out the same variables that went to may domain.

blade19899

Then, I don't know :/

Alvar

yeah.. ignoring that "error" -.-

also my lighttpd doesn't load my png images but the localhost version does..

which is strange..

blade19899

Hahaha. Wish i could be of more help. Could you post your code?

Alvar

@blade19899 hmm, sure..

//dev mode
    $address = "http://localhost";
    $imagepath = "http://localhost/pictures/";
    //live mode
    //$address ="http://alvarberglind.se/howto/";
    //$imagepath = "http://localhost/howto/pictures/";

that's what I changed

function ConnectToDB() {
    $con = mysqli_connect("localhost", "user", "pass", "db");
	if (mysqli_connect_errno($con)) {
            echo ("<HTML>FAILED TO CONNECT TO MYSQL DATABASE</html>");
            exit();
        }
        return $con;
    }

the $con = .. that's line 10

which is weird...

blade19899

11:11 PM

shouldn't this "localhost", "user", "pass", "db"
be
"localhost, user, pass, db"

Alvar

no..

I didn't change it when I got it running on my dev computer

just made the same settings as I did on my server and it works.

Seth

Alvar

@Seth lol

Seth

That's what I feel like right now.

Alvar

recursion ftw

blade19899

11:13 PM

@Seth, lol. Sinatra?

Seth

@blade19899 Sinatra?

I'm not even sure if Python interprets i -1 correctly :S

Alvar

@Seth don't know, I think in Java terms when I see that...

blade19899

@Seth, The lyrics, are from a sinatra song. I think?!

Seth

Let It Snow! Let It Snow! Let It Snow!

"Let It Snow! Let It Snow! Let It Snow!", also known as "Let It Snow", is a song written by lyricist Sammy Cahn and composer Jule Styne in July 1945. It was written in Hollywood, California during one of the hottest days on record. Recording history First recorded in 1945 by Vaughn Monroe, it became a popular hit, reaching No. 1 on the Billboard music chart the following year. One of the best-selling songs of all time, "Let It Snow!" has been covered countless times. Due to its seasonal lyrics, it is commonly regarded as a Christmas song. However, the song has no Christmas references an...

shrug

blade19899

In 1950, Frank Sinatra recorded the song with The Swanson Quartet.

Seth

11:17 PM

Ah. Well not exactly a Sinatra song, but I guess he sung it ;P

Alvar

who cares about the song? We only care about if the code work in python! :P

blade19899

Those lyrics are used allot.

ahhaha

true

Seth

@Alvar I put it into the interpreter and it came out without any errors, but whether there is a logic error in it or not I don't know.

hbdgaf

move to the midwest. you'll begin disagreeing with let it snow.

Alvar

the question isn't really if it gives errors or not, it's does it actually work?

code can compile and still fail..

Seth

11:19 PM

That's what I said >.>

But I don't know if it works or not.

hbdgaf

this works so far...it's still in progress though pastebin.com/aVpF8DxL

Seth

It isn't made to actually run and do something.

Alvar

@Seth run it

@Seth well make it print let it snow then! ;)

Seth

@hbdgaf What.. language is that?

hbdgaf

python

Seth

11:20 PM

That's what I thought. Since when did python use ''' for comments?

hbdgaf

''' is for multiline comments. it has been a thing since comments contained '

people use it for docstrings ALL the time.

Seth

well that's one feature I had forgotten. Much nicer than /* */

hbdgaf

yes. yes it is.

i first found out about it reading code from immdbg i think

pretty code is pretty...

Seth

Interesting:

157

A: Why doesn't Python have multiline comments?

I doubt you'll get a better answer than, "Guido didn't feel the need for multi-line comments". Guido has tweeted about this, Python tip: You can use multi-line strings as multi-line comments. Unless used as docstrings, they generate no code! :-)

hbdgaf

it's just so pretty

@Seth that sounds a lot like don't be an idiot

blade19899

11:29 PM

Seth

@hbdgaf lol

hbdgaf

@blade19899 you really don't want to do this...

blade19899

...

lol

hbdgaf

I'll be around any time now...

Braiam

I HATE JAVASCRIPT

blade19899

11:34 PM

Me two.

hbdgaf

@Braiam me too. python should be the web language.

2

Braiam

I have like 4 hours figuring out a Chrome extension :(

hbdgaf

not that i want python running in my browser. it would be atrocious. i don't write sites that use js at all. css menus and nojs ftw

Alvar

my raspberry PI webserver is actually very fast :D

Braiam

actually, the thing that I hate about JS is that everyone write a mess out of it :(

hbdgaf

11:36 PM

not everyone should write javascript.

6

time to flip the laundry biab

RPi Awesomeness

@hbdgaf Lol. Love it xD

Seth

What happen to "awesomeness" ?

Alvar

@Seth you mean awesomeness of DOOM!

RPi Awesomeness

I think it removes it if I don't have enough posts in a row.

Like so...

It should come back

There.

Seth

Ah I see.

Never noticed that before.

RPi Awesomeness

11:40 PM

:)

Yeah, you wouldn't. (short named people)

:) jk

Seth

lol

;p

I have gotten over my hate of JS. I actually like it now.

RPi Awesomeness

Is there really much difference between ext2, ext3, and ext4?

Always been kinda confuseld on that one.

Braiam

@Seth next time I need to fix a bug I will call you :)

RPi Awesomeness

Is it like Fat16 -> Fat32 -> NTFS? It gets better? Or what...

Braiam

(since yesterday just figuring out why stuff borked)

Seth

11:45 PM

@Braiam Never made a Chrome extension before though, and I'm not terribly good, but I will try :)

Braiam

@RPiAwesomeness thegeekstuff.com/2011/05/ext2-ext3-ext4

>:D

RPi Awesomeness

@Braiam Thanks :)

hbdgaf

@RPiAwesomeness it's reverse compatible, so unless you need the duplicity and metadata, they should be functionally similar...

Braiam

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Q: How can I fix network configuration on SteamOS?

Just installed SteamOS and got no network interface whatsoever... what a bummer... wireless card can see nearby networks but cannot connect even to an open network. Eth0 won't work even with a static interface I reckon it has to do with bad Drivers... My wireless card is an AR9227 an my ether...

debian

SteamOS in Server Fault???? what is this madness?

RPi Awesomeness

Whoo gosh! 1 EB. Do drives that big exist?

Alvar

11:47 PM

@Braiam ,that's probably off topic since steam os isn't even beta...

well yes steam os is open beta, but not really...

hbdgaf

@RPiAwesomeness yes, exabyte drives exist

Braiam

> Server Fault is a site for system and network administrators needing expert answers related to managing computer systems in a professional capacity.

RPi Awesomeness

Dang. thats big.

Alvar

@Braiam well it's still off topic if it was posted on unix.SE !

RPi Awesomeness

Think they'll ever have EB SSDs? Samsung has a 1TB SSD...

Seth

11:49 PM

And the barrage of bad SteamOS questions have begun.

hbdgaf

Alvar

@Seth almost all steam os questions are off topic...

hbdgaf

same goes for steamos questions

Braiam

is more on topic in unix.se then SU, since SU don't like betas

Alvar

@Braiam does unix like betas?

thought that was off topic on SE

like a beta of Ubuntu

Braiam

11:50 PM

well, they don't care about betas, tho

hbdgaf

UL is what AU uses as a trashcan when it comes to betas. i'm not sure if they like them or not.

Alvar

@hbdgaf you just trow them there! HA!

Seth

Well.. we don't. Not since the migration paths have been disabled. /rant

Braiam

actually, we are more cautious when migrating stuff...

hbdgaf

i was more referring to the pro forma comment than a migration path

Seth

11:54 PM

only the mods migrate @Braiam

At least now that is.

@hbdgaf Ahhh. Yep. Definitely.

Braiam

@Seth that doesn't mean that we don't migrate... SO had send us crap

JohnMerlino

I'm reading this article: help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/user-management.html Anyone know what External User Database Authentication is?

hbdgaf

also, why can't humans empty drier lint filters after themselves. i must be a different genus...

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Seth

@hbdgaf No kidding. That really bothers me too.

Braiam

I learned a new word thanks to @hbdgaf

"genus" A group with common attributes.

hbdgaf

11:56 PM

@JohnMerlino i haven't been in a big enough environment to need it, but it's making the DB use a radius db for auth or siimlar. that way the local machine has nothing to do with auth. it just runs the service and auth is centralized.

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

1

Q: How do I install Awesome Windows Manager in Terminal?

Right now I'm running on Kubuntu and I'd like to install Awesome Window Manager in terminal. I've used Xmonad but I'd like another window manager, but don't know how to install "Awesome" from the terminal.

ubuntu command-line software-installation awesome

RPi Awesomeness

@Braiam Seriously? I learned that, like, my 7th grade year. Biology class. Wish I hadn't. Where in the world are we going to use Biology unless you want to become a freaking doctor in it?

hbdgaf

@UbuntuQuestionsonU&L sudo apt-get install awm. done

Seth

@RPiAwesomeness I don't think English is @Braiam's first language.

hbdgaf

I'm quite sure it's not

RPi Awesomeness

11:58 PM

Oh gosh. @Braiam Sorry.

Seth

@hbdgaf bodhi answered it ;)

Braiam