The Pod Bay - 2013-09-25

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4:00 AM

I'm the Philosopher until someone hands me a burrito.

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8:17 AM

NASASpaceFlight.com: Kuaizhou – China secretly launches new quick response rocket

posted on September 25, 2013 by Chris Bergin

China launched a brand new rocket from the Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center at 04:37 UTC on Wednesday. The Kuaizhou “quick-vessel” is an all solid launch rocket that had... Related posts:Long March 2C launches Shi Jian-11 for ChinaThe Chinese have launched the Shi Jian 11-03 satellite via... China launches Tian Hui-1 satellite via Long March 2DChina has launched another new satelli…

8:33 AM

@Donald.McLean myself #1

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10:32 AM

@TildalWave: Perhaps I ought to change the title from 'mouldy food' to 'Can I curdle milk to yoghurt on the ISS?' (+:

10:56 AM

@JamesJenkins: Wow ... This is eerie! I was actually typing a similar one in about Venus

11:42 AM

@Everyone, I have had it developging for a couple days, as you can see from the comments at the related question there was some hope that @Keith Thompson would write it, but his never developed so...

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1:15 PM

au.ibtimes.com/articles/508822/20130925/… I forgot it was so soon!

Although that makes me re-consider planetary sciences as the topic for next week... I'm sure a comet captured by 4 Mars spacecraft is going to get some attention.

1:41 PM

@Everyone Dunno... could be all Americans are wondering what the bloody hell a mould is? :))

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crazy americans...

@JamesJenkins I answered that question about the 8 days around Venus... I wanted to preserve the approach of what Jules Verne described, no maths just soft logic, hope you don't mind ;)

1:56 PM

NASA Image of the Day: New Station Crew Ready for Launch

posted on September 25, 2013

Expedition 37 NASA Flight Engineer Michael Hopkins, far left, Soyuz Commander Oleg Kotov and Russian Flight Engineer Sergey Ryazanskiy, far right, share a laugh at a press conference held at the Cosmonaut Hotel, on Tuesday, Sept. 24, 2013, in Baikonur, Kazakhstan. Launch of the Soyuz rocket is scheduled for Sept. 26 and will send Hopkings, Kotov, Ryazanski on a five and a half-month mission abo…

@TildalWave can we have a rss feed on this site apod.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html

@Hash i think we already have that one, let me check

you want one of the archive? rather than new images?

@RhyW new images

@Hash we already do do we not? The one that was posted just a few mins ago?

http://meta.space.stackexchange.com/questions/279/what-feeds-should-we-have-in-the-pod-bay/
you might want to suggest it here, get community input

@RhyW got so busy :-)

i been so long since i see you last time @RhyW

2:06 PM

@Hash Yeah, im in and out, should be seeing a bit more of me now though, for a little while atleast

@RhyW are you European ?

@RhyW suggested in meta ;-)

@Undo only need 7 rep to become trusted user :-))

@Hash Maybe, I can make it less time... What about a bunch of downvotes? :D

@Crazy what ?

@Hash there, have an upvote

;)

@RhyW thanks

2:15 PM

no worries, it'd be inevitable anyway!

@RhysW That's cheating... Grrrr...

@CrazyBuddy It's not cheating! anyone who has earnt 4k legitimately clearly would have got a vote from me at some point :P

@Hash we have it already

Oh, it was mentioned before ... cheers @RhysW!

@RhysW ~~No...~~ ~~wait...~~ Isn't tha....

never mind -_-

@CrazyBuddy I've had or seen that kind of thing happen regularly on sites that have active chat communities.

2:19 PM

@Donald.McLean I know... He's gonna earn that sometime anyway (was just kidding) :)

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There's nothing more annoying than being just 1 vote shy of a big new privilege for an extended period of time... On MSO I was that way for a month...

Then, I should downvote him twice (and make it 3999) :P

We have an emergency: The people over a Astronomy are trying to give me a diamond. Maybe someone should tell them all the reasons I shouldn't have one.

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LOL.

@Undo space.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/958

in Colloquium, 10 hours ago, by UV-D

I am making campaign banners and sombreros that say "Undo/Sombrero '13"

@Pearson That's a great reason. Might have to use that.

2:27 PM

@Undo dont worry, im there to put a stop to it ;)

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How is astronomy going so far anyways?

@Pearson Fine, seems a little quiet, kind of like me and about 4 others are running the place.

@Undo thats how space started out

in its first 2 days anyway

@RhysW It seemed to me like space started with a bigger boom than Astro is.

But I'm already rep capped for the day, rep capped yesterday too. Currently #2, as one of the others got a few accepts.

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Except for the page views, Space is actually doing pretty decent.

2:31 PM

@PearsonArtPhoto Yaay! thats good to hear

You might lose me for a day or two - I'm really going to be focusing on bootstrapping Astro.

PearsonArtPhoto

Go for it.

on the flip side, you might be seeing more of me

So it evens out. Great!

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Actually, I'm quite pleased overall. Essentially there's 15-20 people here who are daily active on this site, which is pretty good for a new stack exchange.

2:33 PM

Is that in your stats too?

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Well, 15 2000+ users in 2 months means they are all pretty active.

I would say that's true. Just wondering if in your mod tools you have a '# active daily' metric.

PearsonArtPhoto

I don't think there is.

Sometimes I'm still surprised by what there is in the mod tools, however.

@PearsonArtPhoto Useful tools?

@Pearson To move this out of main chat: chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/10746/…

2:58 PM

@TildalWave answer at space.stackexchange.com/questions/2155/… looks good, Still lots of room for strong scientific answer addressing wind and air at different levels.

@JamesJenkins yeah, I hoped I'll find more info on that and edit it in, but no luck yet with the time I have for it right now... and then there's that point about atmospheric inertia that I'm also looking for clear reference, e.t.c. But the rotation of Venus on its axis is indeed really slow compared to Earth's, it's only 6.5 km/h (4.0 mph) so fast paced walking speed

and there are recent indications that it might be changing its rotation period speed

not sure how to edit that in, if at all tho

4:02 PM

astrobites: Reassuring Chicken Little: Why Satellites Are Not Falling Out of The Sky

posted on September 25, 2013 by Sukrit Ranjan

This paper seeks to provide a theoretical explanation for why gravitational perturbations do not disrupt the Keplerian orbits of Earth’s satellites.

4:27 PM

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Q: Congratulations for TildalWave for the first golden badge of the site!

That's all. I just want to congratulate for TildalWave for the first golden badge of Space Exploration.SE! Sadly because SE sites doesn't have any built-in message systems (as far as I know), this is the only way to tell it. Downvote, close, do what you want.

discussion badges

4:51 PM

Looks like @TildalWave becoming more popular ;-)

he has a fan base

better take him down a peg or two before he gets full of himself

do what i do and call him tidal wave :P

@RhyW i called him tidalwave many times ( i think three times or more popular) :P

c'mon guys stop it, you're making me blush in front of other guys, which is double awkward. It's a participation badge... go participate and get it yourself :P

@TildalWave no no no just for fun

we have 614 questions now ... some might have more than 14 questions themselves, so can't yet reach the required number of votes, but with a vote cap of up to 40 per day max, by the time you'll be close, there should be enough questions too ;)

@Hash right, but then I'll stop blushing and your plans will be foiled :P

and with too many supporters on your side ... well, you'd have the same problem as any large crowd has... you wouldn't be able to tell if the one you're trying to make fun of is within your mids enjoying it just as well LOL

4:59 PM

:P

@JamesJenkins: It's still eerie - given it's not the first time it happened, and I was thinking about it for a while too ...

@TildalWave: Better than 6xx questions, the visitor count is up approaching 190 (+:

Don't moulds develop on food in America?

@Everyone will it develop in India ?

@Everyone that's the aftermath of the last SuperCollider bomb we dropped... thanks go to @JamesJenkins for that grand theft lunar roving vehicle question :)

@Everyone molds do ;)

@Hash: Mould? Of course. Haven't you ever suffered it?

@TildalWave: Agreed. Can't the site have a custom MVP badge given by users to one amongst them?
p.s. Molds?Moulds?

Cheers i also had a same thought credits to @JamesJenkin

5:07 PM

@TildalWave: See? It's catching!! First I was telepathizing on James. Now Hash is doing it to me

@Everyone Never heard of anything like that... plus, I don't think it'd be a good idea, MVP kinda says "this one has it and you can't"... but there are badges for popularity, sure... but we don't yet reach such numbers to actually make it till there. Eventually, I expect that question to collect a few tho

@Everyone yes, I meant moulds vs molds... but I obviously wasn't entirely serious in my comment here ;)

@TildalWave: Most Versatile Poster (+:

Let's make Sanskrit the lingua franca for SEx.SE; it'll save all the mould/mold argument

Wikipedia says it can be either, i take that to be good enough.

A mold, or mould (see spelling differences), is a fungus that grows in the form of multicellular filaments called hyphae. Molds are a large and taxonomically diverse number of fungal species where the growth of hyphae results in discoloration and a fuzzy appearance, especially on food. The network of these tubular branching hyphae, called a mycelium, is considered a single organism. The hyphae are generally transparent, so the mycelium appears like very fine, fluffy white threads over the surface. Cross-walls (septa) may delimit connected compartments along the hyphae, each contain...

@Everyone Isn't that a British/American spelling thing? (Thank you, Webster)

@Donald.McLean: Sanskrit doesn't have british/American spelling (+:<

5:21 PM

@Everyone I can read or write it, but I can't guarantee it would make any sense whatsoever ... you're probably familiar with that paradigm of giving an infinite number of monkeys typewriters, let them type for an infinite amount of time, and one of them, some day, will produce a Shakespeare's play? I'd be one of those monkey, if we used sanskrit LOL

@TildalWave: We're all monkeys. Some are monks with keys (+: Btw, you do know someone attempted to do a Shakespeare using multiple threads, don't you? Apparently they got a whole page correlated ...

@Tildal Have a minute?

@Everyone ROFL didn't hear that one yet :))

@Undo now I do, shoot

@Tildal Honest, objective opinion on whether I should get an Astro diamond - the people there are trying to shove one at me. Go or no go?

5:39 PM

@Undo go

sorry for delay, my mouse run out of battery juice and no spare batteries around ... stole one from the wall clock LOL

Lol.

Now you won't know what time it is.

@TildalWave: It's fact. Run a google search when you have a minute - I came across it by accident some years ago.
@Undo: He will. The clock will tick now, but it won't talk

@Undo it actually still works with one... dunno, maybe they're just parallel to last longer :O

It's not half as fast?

@Everyone you mean "tock"?

5:41 PM

Any reason wall clocks couldn't run off of wireless power?

@Undo we'll see in 10 minutes :)

@TildalWave: Aw. You take the fun out of puns

@Undo yes, most of them are too old or too cheap to have some fancy wireless generator in them

@Everyone sorry :(

Nothing like old wind-up pendulum clocks. Just have to wind it once a fortnight ; but it's been a while since my hand though ...

@TildalWave: Just kidding. Don't take it seriously

5:57 PM

@Everyone Take what seriously? I don't even get it, it's too cryptic for me... kinda busy with the tonight's launch, finding stuff for the event ;)

geez tidal pull it together :P

hides

Live stream covering the Soyuz launch to the ISS are available on NASA TV and Spaceflight Now LiveStream in English, and TsENKI TV in Russian.

@RhysW how's that? ^

nothings there just a blue page :P

never mind

@RhysW 4 sources in the list, no?

they are now

6:07 PM

yup, I had a bit of problems at first too

it will also be followed on NASA TV, but a bit later, there's some press conference now

Bah.

Source for IPhone/IPad

^^No idea what those products are. Maybe they meant iPhone/iPad?

@Undo иTелефон and иПодушка you mean? :P

@TildalWave: Is that pronounced 'telefon' in Russian? But what is the other word?

@Everyone iCushion :))

6:22 PM

that s 'kappa'?

@Everyone I guess it could be translated to latin letters as iPodushka :|

then the 'omega' is pronounced 'sh' ?

there is no omega there, but if you mean ш which might be closer to ψ (Psi) in Greek alphabet, and in Russian it's called Sha

aha. it looked like an omega - honest mistake. tiny font. ty muchly (+:

no problem ;)

Launch at 22:58 CEST | 21:58 UTC/GMT | 4:58 pm EDT

That's the first launch window, not the start of our event and live stream available covering it BTW

6:39 PM

Hmpf. Why can't they broadcast it on radio like they did for the Apollo 11 mission?

@Everyone Have you tried AM? :D

@Everyone Step 1: New Tab, Step 2: Open the link, Step 3: Change to another tab. Voila, radio.

@TildalWave: What band?
@DavidFreitag: Traffic cap on this internet connxn; no vids for @Everyone

@Everyone oh... well.. bummer :[

7:06 PM

@DavidFreitag: That it is

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7:44 PM

I really get annoyed when there's a perfectly good python library for Python 2, but not for Python 3...

Python 3's been the standard for a while. Sigh.

Really? I know Python 3 has stable versions but Python 2 is still more standard in the contexts I've seen

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I know, it annoys me...

Python 3 is better than Python 2 by a fair margin as I understand, but people still seem to care more about Python 2... Sigh.

Well, that's probably just sysadmins and programmers being slow.

Normal human nature.

Plus, all the major packages have to be fully ported before Python 3 can become the standard.

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Chicken and egg problem.

I need to create a popular library that only works on Python 3, start a club or something.

Yeah, kinda, but really it's just that it takes time.

There might be a couple of those already, I'm not sure

7:52 PM

@Everyone I was pulling you leg man, nobody really uses AM any more... well, maybe HAARP :)

@Everyone BTW, if you wanna self answer your last question... the clue is in Venera 9 probe and later ones, here's image gallery of their imagery: mentallandscape.com/C_CatalogVenus.htm

or here: nineplanets.org/venus.html (and it has other links mixed between the text...didn't check those tho)

@TildalWave hehe i used nineplanets/neptune earlier today as a source

@RhysW it could use an update of the design, but it's still a good source IMO

yeah overall its got some useful information thats hard to get in other places

even though its not nineplanets anymore

8:17 PM

did they just plug the commander to a COM port?

where's the steam link!?

oh pinned

@JohnB top pinned post on the right

good work

I was testing you, and you passed

tests @JohnB's patience and doesn't reply

@JohnB so what would happen if I failed?

impeachment!!!

8:26 PM

too much blue for my liking, i better start talking :P

@JohnB do I get a cigar 1st at least?

are Cuban cigars still banned goods in the US?

8:45 PM

@TildalWave yup....we can't have any communist goods in our country! They will corrupt our youth!

@JohnB Yeah right, what does youth care about the Cuban cigars, and those that do can still get them anyway... you're just artificially increasing their market value, making them even more desirable :P

@TildalWave Because America..land of the free! (Free from Cuban cigars)

@JohnB I was just teasing, you do what you want with cigars... actually, saying this... neah, I won't say it. Let's watch the launch

@TildalWave I know :) I think the embargo is silly

but I don't smoke and wouldn't be able to tell a good cigar from a bad one anyway

launch key inserted

I just recorded it... there's 2 questions about launch keys

it was at T-5:30

8:57 PM

can we pause the launch so I can go get a drink?

T-1

@JohnB you'll go fetch a drink in 2 minutes

>:O

9:10 PM

NASASpaceFlight.com: Soyuz TMA-10M trio in the fast lane for ISS docking

posted on September 25, 2013 by Chris Bergin

Another three crewmembers are on their way to the International Space Station (ISS), following their launch on Soyuz TMA-10M from the Baikonur Cosmodrome on Wednesday. NASA’s Michael Hopkins,... Related posts:Soyuz TMA-17 launches ahead of Tuesday docking with ISSOleg Kotov (Russia), Timothy Creamer (NASA) and Soichi Noguchi (Japan)... Soyuz-U launches Progress M-07M/39P – Sunday …

9:24 PM

Blog - Stack Exchange: Summer Hiring, Happened So Fast

Joe Humphries on September 25, 2013

We’ve been busy! So busy, in fact, that this post only takes us through the hires we made in June and July. More announcements are coming soon … in the meantime, get to know these 13 wonderful people who now call Stack Exchange home.

Jon Ericson, Community Manager, Burbank, CA

As an Air Force brat, Jon grew up all over the world but has lived in the Los Angeles area since attending UCLA, marrying his college sweetheart, and starting a family. He taught himself GW-BASIC on the family Tandy 1000, learned Pascal and FORTRAN in the classroom, C on the job, Perl on Usenet, and a bunch of …

@StackExchange heh @JonE seems SE gossips about you in the blog again :)

@TildalWave I wrote that blurb myself. But it's been so long, I totally forgot what I'd written. ;-)

@JonEricson that you didn't crash any spacecraft into any planets unintentionally, but it doesn't say how many you crashed on purpose :P

liberal interpretation :)

@TildalWave Truthfully, of the two projects I worked on one landed safely with on Endeavour and the other is still in a polar orbit.

9:43 PM

@JonEricson you'll have to tell us more now, like that third project for DoD that you didn't mention, for example :)

No comment. ;-)

@JonEricson Actually, jokes aside, one real question... would you take the time to also participate a bit as a "normal" user on our and astronomy sites on occasion, or time doesn't permit much activity on that front at all? I realize you must be pretty tight with time,... job, family, e.t.c., but I'd really like it if you could check if there's a question you could answer now and then. It would really reflect good on both the sites IMO. ;)

I meant --- time in short supply,... I always forget tight also means something else in English, sorry LOL

I should go live in Scotland for a few weeks, that'd teach me not to use that word :)

@TildalWave I would like to. I'd also like to get my former co-workers involved.

@TildalWave Eh. As an American, I read that just how you intended. ;-)

10:01 PM

@JonEricson That'd be ... absolutely incredible!

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