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7:06 PM
Bah, I've gone days without working on my game... T~T
Stupid cold
 
I had to concentrate on my contracts and not work on my game for a while
but it is okay, I need to get some assets before I can continue anything
 
That's been my problem :\ character control stuff without an animated dummy at least is really boring
 
I need another opinion
my (3D) artist does a great job at a placeholder level, but it is no secret his work is well under the level of what you can find for free on sites like opengameart (the greatest advantage is that the assets are our own and I can get custom things done)
as time goes by, I will be forced to make a move to improve the quality
he is also responsible for the story part, so not allowing him to work on 3D art anymore and hiring someone to do it would be not as painful as if he was working only on 3D art
but I was also thinking about hiring someone who really knows his way around Blender for a short time to teach him what he doesn't know
but I'm not sure if this would be better than the first option
 
Oooh, hiring someone to teach him Blender sounds like a win-win
 
technically, it would be cheaper
 
7:11 PM
You get another person who can work on stuff, you get the first guy more well-educated, and you don't break any hearts.
 
but if the results are not satisfactory enough, hiring someone to do the art would be more profitable
 
The only downside is cost.
You're also assuming whoever you hire will be capable of doing a satisfactory job on artwork.
 
I can assume that I will find someone who can prove they know what they're doing
I'm not going to hire the first guy who comes saying "dude I know blender hire me"
 
If only there were some way to get myself established like this.
 
I could do the initial hire, and pay the guy extra to teach my artist for a while
and see how things go
 
7:14 PM
I'm confident in my ability to do decent work on my own part, but being in charge of a company of my own investitures is not something I'm willing to risk, especially considering my large amount of college debt.
 
hah, risk is scary
but you only give it your all when the risk is high
 
There's also nothing profitable in game development that's active in this area, so there's nowhere to join up with to learn.
If I am ever fired from my cushy, boring, Web software development job, I'll think about starting my own studio. And taking out some serious bank loans to keep paying my college debts.
OR I'll just give up on that and find another equally boring and cushy software job, letting my dream of making games fall yet again by the wayside.
Fucking college debt.
 
a loan is the last thing I'm considering
then again, I'm the guy who dismisses kickstarters because they seem like begging or a way to get out of a challenge without much work
 
My tuition is going to cost about $150,000 by the time I graduate, and with interest, that'll be huge.
 
unless you're a well known studio, then it's just business under a nice cover
$150.000 is a ton of money lol
 
7:18 PM
Yep, and I've worked myself to the bone to try to keep going there.
I'm going to get some leeway when I move into my next place, and start paying $200 less per month on rent.
Then I can start actually having savings.
Or eating properly.
Or not begging my parents for rent money.
I swear to God, I will make a fucking decent video game if it kills me.
 
that's the spirit
 
I just have to make sure it doesn't kill me first.
See, that's the value of my school. It bends you backwards and fucks you in the ass, so nothing else comes close in your career once you get out.
 
don't let money feel like that much of a problem, and learn to manage them properly
I do not want to have large sums of money available right now
I keep on finding more and more things you can do with $20
 
$20? Try $10.
 
I don't think I'm yet able to spend a large amount of money wisely
you can get some things done with $5 too :D
 
7:22 PM
If I'm careful, I can eat for five days on $10.
 
hmmm
I mentioned earlier a bread costs like $0.5 here
a tube of spreadable cheese is $0.5 too
I can feed myself for 10 days with $10
 
As in, half a dollar?
 
yeah
~2 RON each
a dollar is around 3.2 RON
sometimes it goes up to 3.6
 
I can get decent soups, a loaf of bread, and some lunch meat for $10, and it'll last me five days while still being somewhat healthy.
This is only after getting shingles Junior year for being on a terrible diet and getting very little sleep between work, school, and subsequent lack of employment.
I made a vow to lighten my course load, get more sleep, and eat better.
 
with $10 you can eat two menus at McDonald's here
 
7:26 PM
The only problem is, it's ruining my ability to graduate on time, which is causing all sorts of undue stress.
 
hmm
also why the hell did you go to such an expensive college wtf
 
Because it was close by, and had a good software engineering program.
I had no idea it was so expensive.
 
the USA needs some communism, pronto
 
Yeah, we pretty much do. Especially where MSOE is concerned.
 
if MSOE is $150k
 
7:28 PM
Half of the money goes toward putting on events for the ancient farts who run the school, and none of it goes toward improving student life.
 
how much does MIT or Stanford cost
 
It's only $150k because I'm going for 4 2/3 years.
It's about $30k a year, on par with Stanford and Yale.
 
such a price to pay for knowledge :'(
 
Actually, Stanford is $13k and change per quarter, with three quarters a year.
Mine is $10,640 a quarter, three quarters a year.
 
which college is the most expensive of all?
 
7:30 PM
no idea
 
hi code
 
I wonder how expensive they are practically. A lot of private schools have quite generous scholarships for the type of people they want to attract.
 
NYU in New York costs about $62k a year (source)
 
we don't have those I think
 
7:36 PM
cheerleaders?
 
yes
or maybe we keep them hidden
 
lol
is kinda an american football thing
 
I assume because there is so much down time people get would get bored otherwise
 
@ClassicThunder No, it's because we're chauvinists.
 
7:38 PM
oh, they chose the prettiest to be the one in the picture
nice
 
well that would lead to the argument that everyone else isn't chauvinistic
which I dont think is true lol
 
Both in the jingoist sense and the male chauvinist sense.
But as soon as I get the hell out of MSOE, I feel like I'll be able to finally devote some time to prototyping game concepts and systems like I used to in high school.
 
MSOE?
 
his college
 
Milwaukee School of Engineering.
 
7:47 PM
ahhh
 
lol nope doesn't work like that
 
Yeah, I figured. But if I continue at my current job, if this summer is any indication, at least I'll have weekends to dick around with stuff.
They've already offered to hire me after graduation.
The only thing is, I'm using next to none of what I've learned in school, other than my programming abilities.
 
you'll find a way
 
When I started working, I found that I had so much more free time (and money) than when I was in school
 
7:49 PM
people didn't start studios and projects because there was someone there to pay their bills
 
I kind of hate the company I work for now, not because it's a bad place to work, but because it tries to pass off programming as software engineering.
There's no real team cohesion, and a very sloppy process and toolset that we work with.
 
the closest thing to Cormen's that was written by a group of Romanian university teachers mentioned these two categories:
- software engineers and software technicians
 
Nothing new is ever made, just endless cycles of improvement on shitty old codebases.
 
software technicians are able to implement given solutions according to the required parameters
software engineers perform research to find solutions, and prove that they're correct
 
@AlexM. Yep, that's exactly what I do.
 
7:51 PM
it is not the only definition though
just mentioned what the book said
 
That's how I've been told to work, as per my boss.
I want to actually be a software engineer.
And the software I'd like to develop is game software.
 
@JohnMcDonald I find 8-10h a day + social obligations to be almost all my time
 
1. learn html5 and javascript
2. get hired at rockstar
 
@AlexM. I already am...
 
3. make GTA VI
4. ???
5. PROFIT
 
7:53 PM
Atleast enough to prevent a meaning full amount of work done
 
Is GTA VI actually being done in HTML5?
Or is this a running gag?
 
it's my trademark joke
 
It's not really that funny.
 
GTA VI will be done in whatever the consoles will support
 
@ClassicThunder :/ great. I live close to work for one, and I guess I don't have very many social obligations
 
7:54 PM
@ShotgunNinja few jokes truly are
 
@AlexM. Except for the two hunters joke.
I don't care who you are, that's funny right there.
 
There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who don't know binary, those that do, and those that weren't expecting this to be base 3
 
lol
 
There are 10 types of people in this world. Those who don't know ternary, those that do, and the Nazis.
Fuck the Nazis.
 
nazis existed so that people could make money off games about them
and movies
the holocaust was just a media conspiracy
BANG, now you know the truth
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"More visitors?"
"I should totally pay for this."
anyone interested in the new Zelda-like game?
 
8:29 PM
me neither
 
Meh, it looks interesting.
 
you asked me why I don't consider myself part of the MLP fandom
or something like that
and I told you about the romanian bronies and their trips to public places
here's another reason
challenge: attempt to look at it and make sure your first reaction isn't "wat"
 
heh, I thought there were 2 people on the bed for a sec
 
impossible, he's a brony
HAHAHAHAHAH
get it?
... no?
okay.
 
I've never watched the show
 
8:38 PM
I think whats implied are that bronies are forever alone
 
Todders is right
 
Ah. I guess I need the forever alone face to trigger that for me
 
but I did not forget about your duties, Todders.
you've still got to write at least the unit test for that function.
 
I have duties?
oh snap
I've never written a unit test. I don't know if that function is a good place to start
 
it's okay, we're here to help
you first need to write a function that tests your function
and then you need to write a function that tests the function that tests your function
and then you need to write a function that tests the function that tests the function that tests your function
repeat until sufficient testing has been done
once you're done, it will be time to make it relevant for today's technologies and workflow
so you will need to wrap it up nicely and make it available via a cloud service
 
8:44 PM
...you're trying to make a joke!
 
yeah but I'm not good at it :(
 
huh huh, yayyyy
I figgered it out
 
Hi all, how are you?
 
I read that as "I fingered it out" facepalm
@MarkR quite fine
and you?
 
Fine thank you
 
8:52 PM
Motorola’s “8-core” X8 chip gives us a lesson in marketing-speak
It's hard to imagine how Motorola and Verizon could have been more misleading.
 
So it only has 2 general-purpose cores
 
yeah, they kinda added up all of the cores they could find in that phone
it would've been 9 cores if they had this preinstalled: play.google.com/store/apps/…
 
Oh snap(dragon)
 
Still waiting for the new iPhone running on the Applecore processor
why haven't they done that yet is it too obvious
 
I thought some phones really do have 8 cores
but only with big.little architecture
 
9:02 PM
am I the only one who thinks this is a very beautiful phone?
it was my first smartphone and I can't possibly find a new one for me to like the design as I liked this one's
 
You mean the screen layout?
 
the phone as a whole
it was really solid, and the shape was nice
sort of tablet-y
it also had a stylus
 
I don't personally make a big distinction on the phone shape itself
 
it's so plain it's actually awesome
 
since mostly it's a difference of a mm here and there
I mean, almost all phones are pretty minimal no?
 
9:05 PM
yeah but their designs are fundamentally different
 
the design of what? the differences are things like, "how round are the edges" or "do we have a back button" or "is the home button a real button or not"
I don't really care about these things I guess
 
the three lit buttons for menu and call functions, first of all
then, I think the speaker hole thingies are adding to it too
of the newer phones, I like the Xperia Ion
Following reports this morning that Microsoft would revise its stance on independent development for Xbox One, the company has confirmed that, yes, self-publishing will be an option on the platform. Either they're listening, or they just plain don't have this messaging thing down. A statement from Xbox corporate VP Marc Whitten provided to Engadget breaks the good news:
 
hey, anyone with directx9 in C# experience here?
I need help setting up a depth buffer (I think...)
I've asked the question stackoverflow.com/questions/17824265/… if anyone is interested...
 
9:40 PM
@Jeff I had the same problem with DirectX 11.1 in C++, and the problem was not initializing the depth stencil correctly, but from my google searches it seems it can be just about anything with the depth buffer or stencil. or maybe even with setting the near plane of the camera to a number too small (according to just one result, which may have just been crazy)
I'm not that experienced with DirectX though, so that's about all the help I got.
 
@IcyDefiance thanks, I'll google a bit more into that. I have my near plane set to 1 and far to 200, so I don't think those values are wild at all. I'll just have to keep on googling I guess
 
nah that's not bad. I usually set mine to something like 0.1 and 500.
 
man, all the msdn stuff just tells me to do // Turn on a depth stencil
presentParams.EnableAutoDepthStencil = true;

// Set the stencil format
presentParams.AutoDepthStencilFormat = DepthFormat.D16;
and that just causes the model to disappear...
 
9:58 PM
@ShotgunNinja yeah, I think I posted a link to the ars technica article a while back
the news is at least 2 mos old though
 
I know
Still new to me.
 
does this color tint suggest night time to you too?
 
I dont' know if our gamma settings are different but all your screenshots look super dark to me
 
yeah it's really dark, but the slight bit of blue means night
 
yeah, thought so too
 
10:07 PM
inside a cave would be a more pure black
or so I would think
 
yeah
I wonder if it wouldn't be better to drop the whole always-underground idea
and take most of the action on the outside
 
the point of always-underground is that you have more of an excuse for good level design
 
nah, just thinking out loud
it would be hard to integrate the story anyway
I'll discuss it with the rest of the team at the next conference
I feel that with caves only, it will be difficult to get a combat system that's as dynamic as I had and still have in mind
there's very little space for things such as summons
the story we came up with so far is told in very broad lines, and it seems short this way
we can easily include it as a sidestory
 
10:24 PM
why not large caves?
 
you'd need huge caves to compete with the environment at the surface
and to not limit the player's choices, they'd have to be predominant
how do we explain, lore-wise, long chains of humongous caves
 
10:36 PM
we're outside and using default assets lol
unity's night skybox isn't saying night that much though
 
10:49 PM
in the meantime, I'll finally remove the biggest pieces of artwork that were not made by us
 
11:11 PM
@Gajoo a long time ago I needed a parchment in the game, and I wanted it to have some text that's not that readable on it; I think I put some Persian writing in it
it's all random typing I think though
 
11:36 PM
Is that your game?
 
the paper's all like "it's dangerous to go alone. take this."
 
11:48 PM
@AlexM. it's not persian
 
it's arabic, but we do share similar transcript
@AlexM. the first line is meaningful but the rest is pure random.
by the way, did I use a correct word? I'm referring to "transcript" and I meant "writing system".
 
@IcyDefiance I figured out my problem, I wasn't clearing the depth buffer in device.Clear >_<. This is all I needed to do: device.Clear(ClearFlags.Target | ClearFlags.ZBuffer, Color.SlateGray, 1.0f, 0);
 
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