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Q: Can you help me find the name of an anime I watched when I was a kid?

I only remember 1 scene from the anime and very little about the characters but if you know it I would appreciate it. The main character is a guy and he is some kind of monster like a demon or maybe a vampire or werewolf and he started becoming friends with a girl in a town and I think they start...

identification-request

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Q: Which anime is this picture from?

Thank you for your answers! I have no idea what it is, but looks very interesting! I have already used google images, but it ends up with a Soundcloud track.

identification-request

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2:18 AM

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Q: What happens if there is no relic in a summoning?

In Unlimited Blade Works, we eventually learn that Archer was summoned as Rin had a relic associated with him (i.e. the pendant Shiro keeps). In the recent anime adaptation, there is also some statement to the effect of "a relic is required to summon a servant". Similar sentiment is expressed in...

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3:45 AM

@Frosteeze that's the plan for tonight

4:02 AM

@ton.yeung fire dude as Berg Katze? or OD?

@ton.yeung i remember a lot of fire during their fight in the first season

There is someone who uses fire in Gatchaman?

Only ones I remember are Utsutsu and Hajime

@LoganM and i remember them as "Life & Death" and "Scissors"

the others i remember as "Samurai", "Tank" and "King" and Katze only appears in his Gatchaman form once. the Trap dude didn't have a Gatchaman form

@ton.yeung OD, he's form kinda as a Kingly appearance to it

in my opinion atleast

@ton.yeung oh wait, now i remember, Joe i think his name was. the one who looked all neat at his day job

he was like the first to get his ass kicked by Katze onscreen

4:25 AM

O hi yo/

@mirroroftruth yo

yo/

:D

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5:31 AM

#yuri 百合

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5:48 AM

As of late, this room has had too many pinned messages.

Agree

@LoganM all i see on my laptop is this, this and this

i was thinking same

show only three now with image :D

At one point, the "rule" was that if you need to pin something and there's already 2 or more pinned messages, unpin something before you pin your own thing. I feel like that should still be the standard.

Also don't pin things unless everyone needs to read them.

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Q: Why is Kate's pendant became a key when it is a locket before?

On second season (Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai NEXT released on 2013) episode eleven, Maria-chan gave Kobata-chan a present. It's a key necklace similar to hers. Kate – Maria’s elder sister told Kodaka why was that on her birthday she had received a locket necklace from Maria while Kobato receive...

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Q: Could you help me find this anime?

It's a supernatural romance anime, I'm remembering a particular episode or something that happened in an episode (this could be just a manga, I'm not sure, although I'm pretty sure it's also an anime) ok so the series centers around a highschool aged girl and in this scene she gets kidnapped by a...

identification-request

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7:03 AM

#post wallpaper

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@Taisho that was pretty good

@Quill would like to see a season 3 though

7:53 AM

#post

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Kyaruuuu ~~~~<3

@Frosteeze just got Fate/Grand Order installed now so in 1 and 1/2 hours i'll be playing it. let you know what i think of it tomorrow

@Memor-X Do you play Hyperdimension Neptunia PC?

8:19 AM

Morning :)

Mornin'

8:55 AM

Ohayou

Septian Primadewa

morning ..

Toshinou Kyouko

9:27 AM

Yo

Only a week until elections now

Toshinou Kyouko

9:59 AM

reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/3fk5y8/…

@ToshinouKyouko North Korea , The interview :D

Toshinou Kyouko

10:14 AM

:)

Hiya!

yo/

Osu

11:09 AM

@SakuraiTomoko nope because I have it on the PSVita. havn't played it yet because I plan to get a PlayStation TV to play it on since if it's on PC then there would be no touch controls so it'll be compatible (hopefully). but I have played the original version of it on PS3

I could start playing it now but I only have the PSN funds to get all the DLC for Re;Birth and some of Re;Birth 2's DLC and if I was to start playing them now I would want to be getting all the DLC for all 3 Re;Birth games, Production Perfection, Action Unleashed and Hyperdevotion Noire

11:43 AM

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Q: What's the name of this manga

I'm having the hardest time finding a manga I was reading in manga rock. I had to delete the app and I didn't have anything backed up. The manga was slice of life, school, and shoujo I think. In the manga a blonde bad boy likes a black haired girl and gives her lollipops and on a date he wins he...

identification-request manga-history

12:41 PM

Man, it's quiet today

12:56 PM

@Matt Do you want some more talk? :)

1:15 PM

@Morwenn Well, I'm at work so I can't talk too much :L

@Matt It's true that it's monday, working hours. That may explain the lack of activity.

True, true, but I'm still surprised it's this silent, there's normally at least one discussion before lunchtime

how's life?

Life's a beach.

Lots of fragmented things with a bit of salt.

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1:28 PM

Life's k

I'm getting through

We're still missing Hakase, that's the problem

He's been so long he's not coming up on the @-ping auto-menu thing

:O

1:48 PM

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Q: What's the name of the violin score in Hunter x Hunter?

In the episode where the chimera king Meruem is born, Shiapouf plays some vigorous music with his violin. I want to know the name of the song he played.

music hunter-x-hunter

Toshinou Kyouko

2:09 PM

@Morwenn day off \o/

@ToshinouKyouko Unemployed as of right now for my part.

Toshinou Kyouko

@Morwenn :o gl in the search

@ToshinouKyouko I've already plans for September, but nothing to do meanwhile :)

Toshinou Kyouko

@Morwenn relax :D

anyways, im gonna go and go for a walk

Have fun ^.^

Toshinou Kyouko

2:12 PM

o/

Septian Primadewa

2:28 PM

that shimoneta bottled juice..

@ton.yeung It would be great if I was not the only one with free time.

@ton.yeung First year of employment. Most of the people I know work and don't have free time. I quickly get bored when I try to do stuff alone but everybody else I know is working.

@ton.yeung Well, I know. The problem is that I'm especially bad when it comes to getting along with random people for no reason. I program on my free time, which is also great for my resume.

For example, I never used C++ for an actual job but I still have a link to a proposal I wrote to improve this programming language on my resume. It does the job of proving that I actually know shit about it.

@ton.yeung Well, I can get along with friends of friends, friends of family, family of friends... but it gets really awkward when I know nobody to start with.

Well, it's true that there are some times when you know people but don't really want to have anything to do with them ^^"

@ton.yeung I mostly learnt how to use the language by myself (SO helps when I have questions) and with online articles. I got fond of the concepts it allows to use. Some of them can be really elegant.

@ton.yeung The C++ lands are far more appealing today. If you afford to have to deal with its legacy from time to time...

2:44 PM

I'm not sure where I fit in socially, I'm atrocious at small talk, but I get on with more or less anyone

You have to actively be a prick to get on my bad side

So everyone in here's in my good books <3

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If there's one coding language that's the most useful to learn, what would it be?

Ah, @SWard, while you're here - sory for rejecting that edit earlier, I didn't notice the formatting changes

@Matt its all good

:)

@ton.yeung For solving(?) general internet matters I guess, I'm not too sure what I'm on about myself

I know a tiny bit of vba so I really have no idea what's going on

@ton.yeung haha, I can rest easy now

cool shmool

I might take a look at one once I get through my degree, send me a reminder 4 years from now

@ton.yeung Then... puts on sunglasses I'll be back

3:17 PM

Probably Python for something that is "general".

If you only want to learn programming and don't have a specific project, Python is a good choice. It's easy to learn and use, quite powerful, not too hard to read and still one of the most general-purpose programming languages.

Cheers for the tips guys ^_^

3:39 PM

@SakuraiTomoko i have

that and rebirth 2, it's really good

Toshinou Kyouko

there are lots of jobs that use python too

it depends what you want to do

I don't know, in my jobs in mostly used Python to develop desktop applications.

Toshinou Kyouko

c# is where the moneys at tho

all the finance and government jobs use that

@ton.yeung something like Haskell could fall into that, but python is pretty mainstream now

I think of Python as a jack-of-all-trade language. Similar to bash / batch scripts in regards to "just get it done". If you want to do things properly, it becomes a domain-specific problem. You need proper tools for that.

Python is great when your projects encompass many domains.

Like a general-purpose domain-specific language, whatever it means.

3:51 PM

@ton.yeung Which falls in the category of "I just want the answer", most of the time.

I use it for scripting and developed desktop applications to replay photos/videos sessions. Also to write a plug-in for a GIS. And I used it to develop a small server also. And to send SMS and phone calls and communicate with a FTP server. And... well, many other things.

Toshinou Kyouko

ive gotta go internet is atrocious

Python is popular in academics because it's not hard to learn for mathematicians and has many great math libraries.

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Q: Does the LN tell of the passing of time during Itami's missions?

In the GATE anime (ep3-4), Itami goes to Coda village, then returns to Arnus Hill with the children and the left-behind refugees. From the time he left to when he returns, the JSDF camp went from a tent park to a fortified pentagonal structure with buildings. Now XXI century building tech can m...

Python way of thinking: "Is there a library to do that? Oh well, there is. Great. pip install that_library. Nice, it works".

3:56 PM

@ton.yeung Then he's picking the wrong tool for a domain-specific job. I don't think that says much about Python not being a "general" language.

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@Morwenn it's good for non-software engineers then

@Taisho Eeeh, what's the little pink thing in the tub?

@Frosteeze Hey, I am a software engineer :(

@Morwenn there's nothing wrong with SEs using it, just seems to me it's oriented more to non-SEs

4:00 PM

@Frosteeze To me, it's great to get things done and perfect for tooling. If you don't strive for speed, it gets the job done quickly and leaves maintainable code.

And it has the best documentation tool ever <3

Septian Primadewa

PS4/PS Vita　イグジストアーカイヴ　-The Other Side of the Sky-　ティザームービー

remind me of Valkyrie profile

4:22 PM

@ton.yeung Sorry. I did not mean any hostility; I was (and still is) confused about the point of the PhD stuff. Anyway, "just get it done" is the point of a general programming language.

I agree with C# / C++/ Java, etc programmers getting paid more. And I also agree than VS is the best IDE there is at this point in time (it is still a bad IDE though!) Neither of those has much to do with general programming.

Yesterday I had to plot data for the results of a sorting algorithm in C++. Seriously I was glad to know Python, otherwise I would probably have to learn Matlab, Scilab, R or something else.

JetBrains IDEs are more than decent.

@ton.yeung I cannot say. I have not touched on C# at all.

@ton.yeung Explains why C# caught on.

@ton.yeung I only used PyCharm which was great. But I have heard that CLion is also a great IDE even though immature; it natively supports CMake as a build system and integrates BiiCode too.

I think Python is a great general programming language, but im not quite sure that's something to introduce to new programmers

there's things that might make them hard to transition to other languages like in-line compilation or the lack of braces

@Frosteeze It's probably one the the most teachable languages in my opinion.

4:28 PM

course im not an expert on Python so idk

it's teachable, I'm just not sure the skills you learn in Python can help you with other languages

well i mean, compared to other languages like Java or C#

I use C++ everyday and I really love it but I would never consider teaching it to someone that's only half-motivated.

Too damn hard and expert-friendly.

@Frosteeze My knowledge in Python consists of two days of free time spent on reading a tutorial. And I agree, Python does not help with your programming skills in general.

Programming langages shoudn't be hard to learn. I remember having some classes at school where we had to do networking in C. Seriously, most people had problem with C syntax being too damn obscure, not with networking, but they began hating networking because of that.

And Python does manipulate some interesting concepts such as coroutines, but it does so in a way that does not make the user wonder what it is they're doing.

@ton.yeung I guess that is part of what I meant. To have a mind set of some sort of programmer. Not that I would know what that really means, since I am not a programmer.

@Morwenn but that's the thing. If you started off with C++ you'd probably have an easier time with C. But you're right that if you're not intending to be a programmer, something like Python would be good to start.

@Memor-X twitter.com/trancehime/status/628220797249720320 lololololol

god last time i did a 10x pull I only got 2 Alexanders and 1 fat Caesar. Such BS

4:37 PM

@Frosteeze I already knew C and Python when I really got into C++.

it works both ways really. Learning C first gives you an edge on C++ and vice versa

Seriousy, the biggest efforts fall on the language designers, not on the everyday programmer.

yes, so what happens when you want to be the language designer?

It does not work both ways: learning C gives an edge how exactly to produce bad C++ code. Seriously, C++ is more teachable if you don't start with things like "it is just another layer above C".

@Frosteeze You pick your favourite language, take the place of both the user and implementer, sit down, and write a proposal.

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4:48 PM

@Morwenn so you're saying learning python gives more of an edge in learning C++ than C? how?

@Morwenn This is exactly the reason why I didn't put C++ in my resume... I never actually learn it properly - only know enough to use the STL library without knowing much about the rest of the language

@Frosteeze The actual concepts used to write good code are closer. Design generic interfaces and use classes when you need to, write functions when it is enough for a task.

Ok, I'll agree with that

Use the standard library, don't manage memory by hand, let the language close resources in your stead...

Don't reinvent the wheel every two days.

@nhahtdh Mastering the STL and its concepts is already a tough job.

@Morwenn Not really - just enough to use them as map, list, set, etc.

4:52 PM

Well, you know the concepts of input/ouput streams and you know that there are collections x)

Don't worry, most people don't know that there is more to it.

@Morwenn can you learn about pointers and memory management with python? I'm just curious since like I said I'm not fully experienced with the language

Yeah, I stopped there (in term of coding). I know there are also classes, OOP and template and smart pointers, but that comes way later and I never got a chance to use them

@Frosteeze Not really. But you don't always need them in everyday programming.

@Frosteeze Most high level languages abstract those concepts from you, so you don't have to debug for memory leak

Knowing them is important, esp. when you dabble with performance and memory usage, but having to think about them when you code is a headache

@nhahtdh I'm not talking just about memory leak. There can be weird things in C#, for instance, when you use ref in the parameter or how interfaces work. So while you don't need it for everyday programming, you do need to be aware of it.

And you need to be aware of it to transition to other languages. That's my entire point.

4:58 PM

Don't worry, most Java programmers I know of don't really get that references are actually garbage-collected pointers and nothing more.

Pointer is indeed something presenting and lurking in many languages, so it's important to know.

My comment is more about memory management

From my experience with a few languages, basic knowledge about stack and heap is important, but the part about malloc/free or reference counting is less important, aside from C and C++

5:12 PM

It has been months since the last time I manually allocated memory in C++.

My day job's project's source code is a mixed of C and C++, which is compiled as C++

Nuff said

@ton.yeung those guys apparently dont

You don't use interfaces when you have duck typing and/or concepts.

Well, more like you don't use interfaces when your language does not support them.

@ton.yeung How do they differ from Java interfaces?

Well, so do concepts.

@ton.yeung A C++ feature that is still not implemented but that has been discussed for the past 15 years.

Basically, it serves the same purpose as interfaces, except that your type doesn't have to explicitly "implement" the interface.

The types only have to satisfy the concept requirements.

void sort(Iterable& collection);

^^ Here, Iterable can be any type that has begin and end methods that return a type which satisfy the Iterator concept.

It also has semantics. You can overload on concepts.

Currently, you'd write more or less template<typename T> void sort(std::enable_if_t<is_iterable<T>, T>& collection);.

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5:28 PM

Interfaces are used to tell "every type implementing this interface will have to satisfy some requirements". Concepts do the same thing except you don't have to explicity tell "I satisfy thiese requirements". The compiler will check it for you and warn you if the type doesn't.

@ton.yeung How so?

Every useful feature can be abused.

Interfaces are merely a compiler-assisted way to document which functions should a class implement. Thy just brought into the language what was originally in the documentation.

Much like contracts, except interfaces work on types, not on values.

Toshinou Kyouko

5:53 PM

im back~

[Insert Japanese expression for welcome back here]

@ToshinouKyouko Welcome back, master! ^.^

Toshinou Kyouko

^_^

I'm Front, pleased to meet you

@Frosteeze Just copy it from the room description, lol

お帰りなさいませ、ご主人様!

Toshinou Kyouko

5:55 PM

akari?

Okaeri nasaimase, goshujin-sama

@ton.yeung Something like that lol

@JNat Are you here?

@ton.yeung The good thing about Python is that it's still manageable, even with a mere code editor.

recently-release anime The Third Girls Aerial Squad Episode 1 (Shirobako special)

6:00 PM

@ton.yeung Of course. As long as it doesn't impose too many things on the user. I tend to prefere language-specific IDEs to general-purpose IDEs.

@ton.yeung It's released with the BD

Toshinou Kyouko

@ton.yeung :o

@nhahtdh oooooh

i know many people who are gonna love this :)

@nhahtdh I am

'sup?

@JNat Can you check whether there is a similar question to this one anime.stackexchange.com/questions/23777/… but deleted?

I remember seeing something similar a few weeks before

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Toshinou Kyouko

6:03 PM

@nhahtdh there were other inuyasha ones , dunno if same discription

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@nhahtdh Wolf-similar? Or Inuyasha-similar?

anime.stackexchange.com/questions/23519/…

This is all I could find with wolf and deleted

That's from this year, that is

OK, probably my memory is playing a trick on me.

@nhahtdh Nevertheless, aren't you able to search for deleted questions?

Thanks

6:05 PM

Can you see deleted questions?

@JNat I don't think so. I can see a list of recently deleted questions from the mod tools, but that's all

@JNat I do

@nhahtdh Then, on search, just add deleted:yes

@JNat No effect, as far as I can see

Hmm, okay

Maybe it's mod only?

AFAIK, yes, it's mod only

6:07 PM

I've had mod powers for too long

:P

Can mod see deleted questions in the list of newest questions?

(Just curious)

No

Those get dropped outta there

@JNat Can confirm, no. :P

6:24 PM

omg @Eric go back to work

bill gates will be mad

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@Frosteeze Semi-related

twerk for bill gates @Eric

@Frosteeze Make Git work properly with VS then

y u no use TFS with VS

We do. Our relationship with source control is complicated.

6:44 PM

The second OVA doesn't have the names of the characters in Shirobako in the ending credit

@ton.yeung Yeah, something about our setup doesn't like me and sends me unknown 500 errors. It also doesn't play nice with SSH, so my home setup doesn't work either. I have to run from the command prompt in both cases.

Toshinou Kyouko

git works for me with vs

@ton.yeung It does.

So does this

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7:08 PM

Nope, it's new to me

I don't think it's that, I think VS just doesn't know how to handle the cert. But I'll check when I'm home.

7:46 PM

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Does this make any sense? anime.stackexchange.com/a/23787/1398

@ton.yeung Question? The question looks fine (to a person who doesn't read the series)

Oh, ok

That is actually a rhetoric question

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