Maid Café (メイド喫茶)

Logan M

12:11 AM

anime.stackexchange.com/questions/22181/… <- I kind of wish it was possible to close a question as completely absurd.

Memor-X

@LoganM but you can close it as primary opinion based can't you?

Logan M

But it isn't primarily opinion based at all.

Mysticial

> I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because you're an idiot.

Logan M

There is nothing remotely opinionated here.

In all honesty, there's no reason to close the question in the first place, but it's bad enough that I wish there were.

Taisho

Memor-X

12:24 AM

@LoganM well 2 people think it is so i was just confriming why they may be VTC for that reason

Logan M

People misuse every single close reason. You shouldn't judge based on what other people have done, because they're not very good at closing questions correctly.

Memor-X

@LoganM well i haven't voted to close because i can't find a good reason myself, with the exception of ebing misleading as aside for the title the body is trying to compare the hair and eye colour, but eye colour is different as noted in my comment so to me from that it's "is Naruto a clone because he has the same hair colour as Goku"

Quill

12:44 AM

Has everybody pledged to Ito-chan yet?

Memor-X

@Quill i don't bother with kickstarter since there's too much risk involved. my only use for it would be to fine tune and polish a completed game (ie. game is done but i need funds to polish it up).

ofcause Tokyo Dark may end up being successful given Square promotes it

Quill

I suppose so

Sakamoto

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Q: Bakemonogatari Tsubasa Cat

In the Tsubasa Cat arc. I remember that Hachikuji was saying that she saw Shinobu at Mister Donuts and she ran away. When did Hachikuji met Shinobu? As far as I remember. She never met her. Except at Kabukimonogatari.

monogatari-series

Frosteeze

1:17 AM

@LoganM I should've vtc with "unclear what you're asking" as the reason, but that would be one reason why it should be closed

shaggy

just tried a new instant out! its a north thai flavor by mama. never had this particular kind of broth before but it is called tom saab, i liked it a lot. spicy, pork, citrus (not the same as tom yum gai)...

Frosteeze

more than that though, I don't see why questions that asks if a character is influenced by another character couldn't be closed as opinion-based

shaggy

i want some squid. so bad.. so bad

Memor-X

@Frosteeze in that regard it can be answered if there is a source from the author, with like @EroSɘnnin's answer (though the comparison between Naruto and Goku by the author was about the personality, not the appearance) but at the same time do we close it as Opinion Based when there is no evidence like this because no one has ever asked the author

Logan M

@Frosteeze I didn't see it as a question of influence. To me the question seems to be asking whether Naruto is a literal clone of Goku.

If that's how you interpreted the question, I agree it is unclear.

I still don't see how it would be "primarily opinion-based though". It's a factual question, just that the facts aren't well-known.

Memor-X

1:28 AM

i'm tempted to alter the question title to something like "Was Naruto's design inspired by Goku's?"

Frosteeze

@Memor-X you wouldn't know there was a source from the author until after the fact

Septian Primadewa

change 'clone' into 'inspired' make question more clear

Frosteeze

@LoganM I still interpreted it as asking if the character was influenced by another character. And sometimes authors don't realize they're making a character influenced by another character from a work they enjoyed and deny the fact they take some inspiration. Literary analysis comparing characters are opinions after all.

@SeptianPrimadewa Well quite honestly, I'm still not sure what the guy is asking

Septian Primadewa

that user asking about plagiarism in another question, so i assume that user want to find a proof that naruto stealing character design from goku.

Memor-X

@SeptianPrimadewa even that question was bad, while i haven't seen enough of One Piece of Fairy Tail to know every character, looking at them really only the Shanks comparison looks surprisingly similar, some look totally different and only one elelemnt is similar (ie Boa's Snake, Don Flamingo's feathery thing) and it's really grasping at staws

shaggy

1:42 AM

くコ:彡

i think im going to start raising my own squid. i wonder if there are agriculture/wildlife laws against such things in the USA

Memor-X

@shaggy if you a scientist i think your allows Giant Squids, for the purpose of sending them into the past because why the fuck not

Septian Primadewa

@shaggy iirc personal home garden is against law there

shaggy

lol well although that would be awesome, and im sure i would enjoy having one as a pet, as sad as it may be the main motive for having them, breeding them would be for food..

and im almost sure thats not 'legal' here. hah

although from what i have read, apparently they are not the easiest to take care of. still though. i love eating squid...

i just wish i lived by the ocean. then i wouldn't have such problems

Septian Primadewa

Whoa lot minecraft tutorial when googling 'squid farming'

shaggy

dam you people in california, dam you people in AUS (cough @Memor-X cough)

Memor-X

1:51 AM

@shaggy why, what did we do? Squids in Australia, like every other animal here" will try and kill you

shaggy

@SeptianPrimadewa haha! yeah, i was more discreet about my search queries. thats funny though~~

Memor-X

@SeptianPrimadewa should look into that myself, my squid farm in Fuyuki isn't being staffed and i'm running out of ink for research

i get enough feathers from the chicken farm, need a good source of clay through

shaggy

@Memor-X im just jelly that you live (i suppose you could be pretty landlock.. but anyways) and hey everything might try and kill you there, and be massive, but i believe that just makes it taste better...

@Memor-X LOL

but yes people, i really would like to run my own squid farm.
くコ:彡 shaggy's squid corral くコ:彡

im not really to keen on eating some squid while not being close to the ocean.

Memor-X

@shaggy it's a serious problem, the only reason why i have run a village is for the free resources, i have a pond for fish, a quarry for stone, a chicken farm for feathers and a grove for wood. thinking the mod might be bugged

shaggy

or having some fresh source.. wether it be illegal farming >__> or not...

same here, mama noodles are quite good. I was just excited because that was the first time I had ever had the 'tom saab' flavor :D . some fresh lime is always a good thing to have on hand imo. but for me tom yum the important part is some fresh lemongrass/lime leaves

but im done talking about food, i don't want to step back into the kitchen today!! ... even if it is to make instant. hahah

Septian Primadewa

2:04 AM

i only know indomie for instant noodle, shame for me..

Taisho

shaggy

right now im more focused on my hypothetical gray market squid farm.

@ton.yeung you should! but sometimes its just a lazy day. we all have them.

Logan M

@Frosteeze There's a difference between involving some subjectivity and being "primarily opinion-based". The latter is applicable when any possible opinion can't be justified or argued, such as "what is your favorite color?".

shaggy

@SeptianPrimadewa shame indeed.

Ero Sɘnnin

2:31 AM

@Memor-X amm .. Actually, what @Logan said is right. At first, I thought the user didn't get the right words to express their question. But it seems that they were literally asking if they both were clones.

Good morning btw :)

And I too wanted to edit the title and the body. But then the question would become very different from the original.

Frosteeze

2:48 AM

@LoganM The description on the reason says "answers to this question will tend to be almost entirely based on opinions (...)", not that the answers are entirely based on opinions.

"Almost entirely" is very different than just any possible opinion

course if it's about clones, I guess the answer can not be opinion based at all

Logan M

Blog - Stack Exchange: Good Subjective, Bad Subjective

Robert Cartaino on September 29, 2010

Stack Exchange is about questions with objective, factual answers. We’ve been crystal clear about this for as long as I can remember, even back to the earliest, pre-beta days of Stack Overflow. It’s right there in the standard Stack Exchange FAQ:

What kind of questions should I not ask here?

Avoid asking questions that are subjective, argumentative, or require extended discussion. This is not a discussion board, this is a place for questions that can be answered!

Thus, questions that are not answerable — discussions, debates, opinions — should be closed as subjective. It seems simple enough: Fact good; opinion and discussion bad. But why? …

"What is the inspiration for X?" isn't really subjective at all, but to the degree that it is, it's definitely in the "good subjective" category.

Frosteeze

Alright, I'll concede, I'll lookup that guideline next time there's a question like this

I still would've VTC it for not being clear on the clones thing

Ero Sɘnnin

Since we don't have a VTC reason, can we just change the title so it sounds less absurd?

Frosteeze

@EroSɘnnin change it to how? lol

the question is fundamentally absurd

Memor-X

@EroSɘnnin done, might as well do it

Frosteeze

3:02 AM

@Memor-X I thought changing it to that changes the question original intent?

Ero Sɘnnin

@Frosteeze lol .. I was thinking of moving the "clone" part of the title into the body. And then adding words like "similar" to make it sound less idiotic

Memor-X

@Frosteeze the body can be read in the exact same way if you was asking if Goku's design inspired Naruto's, at least to me it does

Ero Sɘnnin

@Memor-X yup. I was gonna try out the same :D

There's no mention of the clone part in the body. So its safe to assume that either the author didn't get the right words to express the question or that "clone" was misplaced :p

Memor-X

Logan M

Are we sure that he means "inspired by" rather than "clone"?

Because if so I don't think it's as bad a question.

Memor-X

3:13 AM

@LoganM nope but if i was be cynical about the user i would think it to be click bait, like this question

Ero Sɘnnin

It changes the question and its status significantly. If the edit isn't really what he meant, he can just rollback

Memor-X

that could be asked "was certain characters in Fairy Tail inspired by characters in One Peace?"

Ero Sɘnnin

Yeah

@Memor-X woah. Seijitsu writes some quite well detailed answers

Sakamoto

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Q: What is the chronological order of the Sono Hanabira games?

I'm curious as to what is the Chronological Order of the Sono Hanabira series including the placement of Hanahira and the Sono Hanabira - Tenshi games (the latter in relation to Sono Hanabira) I know that some games like Sono Hanabira 4 and 6 are squeals to Sono Hanabira 2 and 1 because their st...

sono-hanabira

Memor-X

@EroSɘnnin that's normally the case just from what i see....though i now wish i didn't see the end to his answer there because i originally forgot about that weird kid which seems to be trying to force himself to pair with Chibi-usa and destroy and Chibi-usa x Hotaru pair

Frosteeze

3:22 AM

@Memor-X there's a lot of weird otakus like that

Sakamoto

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Q: In Shokugeki no Soma at 43rd Annual Autumn Election

Why soma lost at finals round's in 43rd Annual Autumn Election.

shokugeki-no-soma

Septian Primadewa

3:39 AM

gintama cloning every anime

Frosteeze

o mang better sue gintama for plagiarism

Septian Primadewa

lol

Frosteeze

@Memor-X actually why isn't that closed as off-topic? Law SE is more appropriate

Memor-X

@Frosteeze possibly but i doubt you could get a better answer there than what you could get here

Frosteeze

Seijitsu's answer is mainly based on Japanese laws and culture, but you're not wrong about that

Yuuki

4:22 AM

Is it what I think it is?

Yuuki

4:44 AM

@ton.yeung You, I was wondering what you meant by "blatant foreshadowing".

Oh, what'd they do?

Well, I'm reading the manga.

Chapter... ~50?

Nvm, 38.

Frosteeze

Memor-X

@Frosteeze i don't get it

Yuuki

@Frosteeze Oh god, he went for the Forbidden sudo ping.

There are things man was not meant to know!

Frosteeze

he's bringing Twitter down for a whole day from a sudo ping mang

Memor-X

@Frosteeze could he not do it for longer?

Yuuki

4:48 AM

I think he forgot -f.

Memor-X

like forever

Yuuki

Wouldn't even ~~work~~ make a drop in the ocean because that's a single ping if I'm reading the command right

Taisho

Memor-X

@LoganM you going to fix that question?

Logan M

no, just the tag

Mysticial

4:51 AM

There's my abuse of close vote for the day.

btw, not sure if there are any other C++ programmers here. But this is a must see:

in Lounge<C++> on Stack Overflow Chat, 16 hours ago, by Andy Prowl

Hitler on C++17

►

Logan M

I'm surprised that got through the quality filter.

Memor-X

@Mysticial i really think that all caps should be a stock close reason

Logan M

I thought the only thing that was supposed to do was filter out the spam and people who don't use punctuation or capitalization.

Memor-X

@LoganM maybe it got overloaded

Logan M

?

Ero Sɘnnin

4:57 AM

Maybe their Caps key got stuck

Memor-X

@LoganM too much caps overloaded the quality filter

Logan M

Define "overload"

Memor-X

@Mysticial i honestly don't get these jokes about the finer things about languages and i never found load times in C++ to be any different than any language

@LoganM "an excessive amount of something."

Logan M

You're using it as a verb.

What you've just written makes no sense, especially since the verb has an object.

Mysticial

@Memor-X Then you probably don't know enough C++ to get the jokes.

Memor-X

5:01 AM

@LoganM oh sorry, "load with too great a burden or cargo."

@Mysticial yeh proably

Mysticial

It wasn't referring to load times, but rather compile times - which are notoriously bad for C++.

Logan M

I still don't understand what you're saying.

Sakamoto

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Q: I CANNOT REMEMBER THE MANGA NAME THAT I USED TO READ PLEASE HELP!

I REMEMBER READING THIS MANGA BOOK BACK IN HIGH SCHOOL SO I AM GUESSING IT CAME OUT ABOUT 16+ YEARS AGO? IT WAS JAPANESE MANGA BOOK TRANSLATED IN KOREAN. IT STARTS WITH A GUY WALKING ON THE STREET CARRYING A BUNCH OF CALLA FLOWERS AND A GIRL SEES HIM WALK PASS BY. IT WAS SUCH A LONG TIME AGO THAT...

identification-request

Logan M

Are you claiming that the quality filter, which is designed to pick out posts with excessive capitalization, would instead fail when the post has excessive capitalization? If so, that makes no sense.

Memor-X

@LoganM maybe there was too many caps that it overloaded the quality filter

Logan M

5:03 AM

I think you should think harder about what you're saying and if it makes any sense. If it does, then you need to pick out better words, because you're failing to communicate here.

Yuuki

@LoganM It doesn't make sense because it's probably a joke.

Frosteeze

"CARRYING A BUNCH OF CALLA FLOWERS "

Memor-X

@LoganM mehhhhh, it still makes perfect sense to me. maybe this is why i'm no good with jokes in general

Frosteeze

this is top tier comedy

Logan M

Is it supposed to be a joke?

If so, I understand even less.

Frosteeze

5:05 AM

it's a programming joke...I think

Memor-X

@LoganM it's like with a DoS Attack, you overload the server with traffic which, in some situation, allow certain things through when normally wouldn't, ie login credentials for the database

Logan M

Wait, so the joke is that the person DoS'ed stack exchange to shut down the quality filter so that their post could get through?

Memor-X

@LoganM *sigh* forget about it, DoS was the only comparison i could think of and it didn't seem top clear anything

Frosteeze

haha

Memor-X