Maid Café (メイド喫茶)

Memor-X

12:01 AM

@LoganM how many episode is in 1 volume?

Logan M

2 episodes

6 volumes total (plus bonus volume 7)

Memor-X

that's a rip off to import, i got Yuru Yuri Season 1 and 2 Premium Editions and Brave 10 Prenium Edition from the US, 12 Episodes for about $70, Toradora dubbed Premium Edition which is 25 epsiodes + all OVAs is about 120, 2 episodes for about $50 is bullshit

Toradora comes with 4 BD disks and 4 DVDs as well

and those prices are including shipping from the US to Australia

Logan M

Japanese BDs are always more expensive than their English counterparts. IIRC Japan has the highest anime prices in the world.

Memor-X

@LoganM christ, and here i thought it it would be cheaper to buy direct from Japan than from the US, it normally is for figures

Logan M

The real benefit of buying the Japanese release (apart from the quality, which is typically significantly better) is that you get it immediately.

@Memor-X For any exclusive merchandise like figures, Japan gets it cheapest. Same is true for manga, but not anime.

Memor-X

12:09 AM

@LoganM i suppose that's a good trade off but if i'm going to pay close to $400 on 1 season then i better be sure to get subs, it'll be a waste to buy it and not understand a single word

Logan M

That's why you can watch it first streaming, then watch the BD version.

Anyway, I'm going to see what data I can access from these sites via the API.

I forgot that I don't technically know how to program. I'm going to go learn that so that I can figure out how to use the API.

Hell Butterfly

0

Q: Are questions about crunchyroll on topic?

Are questions about crunchyroll (and other popular anime-focused software) on topic here? I figured the users most likely to be able to answer a question about crunchyroll would be here, but there is a webapps SE site. I know Arqade takes questions about Steam, which in itself is not a game.

Memor-X

12:41 AM

"A Wild Pikachu Appeared"
"Enemy Pikachu used 'Graph Theory'!"
"It's not very Effective"

Logan M

wat

Mysticial

wut

Sakamoto

0

Q: Where to watch .hack?

I watched .hack//Quantum on Netflix and loved it. I would like to watch the rest of the ,hack shows as well, but they seem to not be on Netflix or Crunchyroll. Is there anywhere else I can stream them from?

.hack

Eric

1:19 AM

wot

Mysticial

@Eric When someone/thing breaks a streak, you're supposed to bin the offending message and edit the bin message to continue the streak.

:)

Eric

@Mysticial D:

Mysticial

:P

Eric

But I no smartical with these chatrooms and magical whizbangs all you youngsters are playing with.

Mysticial

The Pinnacle of Lounge<C++> Productivity II

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Eric

1:24 AM

SEEMS LEGIT.

Mysticial

Many of the edited messages were bin messages re-edited to continue the streak.

chat.stackoverflow.com/messages/8575316/history

Eric

You nutters.

Mysticial

We don't have 2.7 million messages for no reason.

Though I think the Feeds room is going to catch up pretty quickly.

Logan M

The feeds room represents a fairly significant fraction of all recent messages on chat SE. It wouldn't surprise me if someone noticed just because the rate at which chat message numbers increase suddenly changed.

Mysticial

Kinda sad that it's limited to 5/post/feed.

Otherwise, I could just put one on the front page of SO.

Or if they had chat feeds, you could have two feed rooms feeding each other.

Logan M

1:36 AM

By my count the feeds room contains 34% of all Chat.SE messages that have been posted since it was created.

Mysticial

Which isn't bad at all for 30 min. of effort.

Logan M

You could probably get it up to 50% without much trouble (roughly double what you've already done). I think it would be hard to go a lot past that.

Mysticial

Right now they're coming in at just under 10k a day.

The biggest site that isn't already in there has only 60 questions/day.

It does do duplicates. Say one from the homepage and one from a tag.

So there is some sort of multiplier you could extract.

Logan M

For comparison The Bridge gets roughly 2k per day. I'm fairly sure they're the most active on Chat Se.

You could add feeds for things outside the network. Not sure if those update less frequently, but it should be possible to generate essentially an infinite amount that way.

Mysticial

right

Logan M

1:44 AM

Based on stackexchange.com/sites#questionsperday, I'd imagine getting more than 10k posts per day with questions is probably impossible anyway.

Mysticial

Which makes me wonder. How the hell did I get it up to 50k in 6 days.

Surely most of the stuff from SO would've been capped away by the limit of 5.

Logan M

You have some answer feeds too I thought.

Mysticial

@LoganM They're coming from the user feeds for a few active users.

While they're very active, it should still be negligible to the rest of it.

We might get 15+ out of Jon Skeet each day - out of 10k total? lol

Logan M

As for SO, I'd need to check the rate of feeds posting to the room. IIRC it can be as often as 15 minutes, which would then let you get nearly 500 questions per day for a single tag. That would get roughly half of the incoming questions on the largest tags, and most or all on smaller ones.

I do find the rate at which it's getting posts to be a bit surprising though.

Mysticial

Also, I gave you ownership. Feel free to tinker with it.

Logan M

1:51 AM

meh I'll just leave it there. I don't want to mess with it too much.

Mysticial

The feeds room would also be a great place to troll another room.

You could just move a bunch of them to the target room.

Pure evil.

Logan M

You could just move the entire room there. They'd never be able to clean it up.

AFAIK there's no limit on moving messages.

which is honestly an exploit just waiting to happen if it's actually true.

Braiam

the entire chat stuff is an exploit

:P

hwlau

What is the purpose of the feeding room?

Braiam

feed us

not you :P

hwlau

2:04 AM

Then you should go to that room to let them feed you :)

Braiam

I'm not hungry right now, later

hwlau

Artificial Intelligence is now trying the third round

Memor-X

@hwlau third time's the charm i guess, maybe this time they'll finally be able to iron out their policies

hwlau

@Memor-X I ask and answer few questions there, I just felt that there are not enough questions and expert involve there. Probably they need to try ten times for it to success.

Logan M

2:23 AM

The problem with AI is that it's too popular for the Area 51 process to work.

You can easily get 200 people from SO to commit to an AI proposal because it would be a cool site. But out of them, only 2 or 3 will have any expertise with actual work, either in applications of machine learning or in theory.

If it weren't as popular and only attracted more serious people, IMO it would work as an SE site, though most of the questions could also go on existing sites.

hwlau

@LoganM Exactly what I observe, also the people doesn't seem too enthusiastic to ask questions there.

Mysticial

Now that I think about it. If you feed-bombed another room with 50k messages. It would be really difficult for them to clean it up.

hwlau

It is a bit strange that we should not let the commitment grow too fast at the beginning.

Logan M

@Mysticial Yes, it would be basically impossible

Mysticial

I don't think moderators have bulk moderation options.

You would need a user-script running on a room owner account to clean it up.

hwlau

2:30 AM

Are you studying how to use the feed as weapon to attack other rooms?

Logan M

I guess a dev could probably fix it with relative ease, but that happening once would be enough that they'd just disable bulk moving messages entirely.

Mysticial

@hwlau We're entertaining ourselves with the idea. If any of us actually did it, I'm certain we'd all be banned permanently.

Logan M

@Mysticial At least from chat, if not from the main sites.

I've considered this before. The method I was contemplating though was a bit more refined than just sending 50k messages into a single room.

I think it's only a matter of time before someone crazy tries something like that, though.

Mysticial

Even though I came up with this idea of "feed-bombing" a chatroom, I take no responsibility for how other people decide to use it. :D

Logan M

There are easily worse abuses you can do.

If you just make a network of fake accounts, you can easily get 10-20 up to 15 rep in a few days. Then just spam flag all the posts of someone you don't like. Sure, you'll be banned for it, but it would also be a pain for them to clean up.

Mysticial

2:35 AM

That's probably easier to clean up than a feed-bomb.

Logan M

You can do the same thing in chat much easier to basically keep someone banned all the time, and it's harder to track.

Though I think they've made some improvements to what mods see on their end for chat flags.

@Mysticial I've never seen anyone actually get back the 100 rep from bad spam flags. I'm not sure it's easy to do. I do know that mods can't change the status of a flag once it's marked helpful.

Mysticial

@LoganM There's a mod option to reverse a spam flag and restore the rep.

Logan M

I wasn't aware of that. Good to know.

I'll avoid picking that as my abuse of choice then.

Mysticial

But AFAICT, the only way to clean up a feed-bomb is to write a user-script.

Preventing one is easy, gallery mode.

But obviously, you can't use that everywhere.

Logan M

Does Gallery mode prevent moving messages?

Mysticial

2:40 AM

You can only move messages to a room if you have write-access to that room.

Logan M

That makes sense.

Otherwise it would be a relatively easy way to circumvent Gallery mode.

BTW how do you intend to actually select 50k messages to move? I doubt my browser could handle that many on the screen at once.

(hypothetically of course)

Mysticial

Good point.

You'd need a script.

But you could probably do a few thousand without much trouble.

They aren't gifs.

You could well... gif-bomb a room.

40MB gifs.

Logan M

I can do around 1000 gifs before my browser starts to die, so I could probably get reasonably far into the oneboxes.

As for gif bombs, one of the ones I posted in T&S is 150 MB. I've made ones as big as 3 GB, but I didn't have a good way to post it.

Memor-X

@LoganM i remember downloading that one

it was that monogatari one with the tower of tables

Mysticial

Since feeds don't bump the chatroom, I can totally see someone hooking up an bunch of external feeds to pornographic gifs. And then using it to bomb another room.

Logan M

2:50 AM

Found it: giant.gfycat.com/JampackedFlashyGoldenmantledgroundsquirrel.gif Note: this file is 150 MB. Don't click unless you have the bandwidth for that.

Mysticial

Now go gif-bomb another room with a thousand of them.

:)

Logan M

I think I'd probably have to make them different somehow. If it's the same image loading 1000 times, it doesn't seem like it would take that much more that just loading it once.

Mysticial

oh you're right.

But at least you'll kill their renderer.

This feeds room is actually pretty good tool for looking for deleted posts.

If you have the title, but can't find the post because it's deleted...

Logan M

I'm gonna add a few sites for which I'd like that functionality.

Mysticial

feel free :) The goal is to make it as post as much as possible.

At least without having to go off-network.

Logan M

2:55 AM

The ones I'll be adding are mostly meta sites (that's where the best dorama is) so it won't affect the total rate that much.

Mysticial

ah

Logan M

3:06 AM

Okay, how do these feeds actually work? How do I create a custom one?

Mysticial

You just enter the feed url.

Logan M

I tried adding mathoverflow.net/feeds but it doesn't format it like the other ones

Mysticial

You need to wait a bit.

It auto-formats after a while.

Logan M

okay I'll wait and add some more in the meantime

Mysticial

Wait, you're doing ticker feeds.

You want the other one.

Logan M

3:09 AM

Yeah I realized that

Mysticial

lol, your changing feed messages are already buried.

lol, the room got bumped.

hwlau

Sorry

Mysticial

We need to bump it anyways.

Once every two weeks at least.

Logan M

Bumping it is going to be a bit risky.

hwlau

then why do you need to bump it?

Logan M

3:12 AM

Might be better just to have a mod unfreeze it every 2 weeks.

@hwlau Otherwise it'll freeze.

hwlau

can mod lock the room?

Mysticial

@LoganM I doubt any passerby is gonna notice how "active" that room is.

Logan M

Actually, technically, it doesn't yet have 10 messages by 2 people, by that count. Hence I think we need to bump it every week or else it'll be deleted.

Mysticial

They'll probably just see it as someone playing around with feeds. (which is true)

Logan M

We could fix that now though.

Mysticial

3:13 AM

But they won't know that it puts almost 10k messages a day.

@LoganM It needs to be more than one person?

hwlau

Is the feed message count differen from user count?

Logan M

@Mysticial Yes, needs 10 messages by at least 2 people to avoid being deleted.

Mysticial

@hwlau nope. Doesn't count towards anything.

hwlau

@Mysticial Then why do they want to put the feed as a part of chat?

They should make it a part of specialized notification system

Mysticial

A feed is just a bot.

hwlau

3:16 AM

oops, ic, it makes thing eaiser

Mysticial

lol, A51

hwlau

There is feed for A51?

Logan M

I was watching the screen with my message, and suddenly without even blinking it was nowhere to be seen at all. I started cracking up for that.

hwlau

How can I get that?

Logan M

@hwlau Yeah I added it

hwlau

3:18 AM

link please

@LoganM I see the same thing

Mysticial

@ton.yeung Could you set up Hoi-hoi-san to bump the feeds room once a day.

hwlau

it just look like something is broken

Logan M

A bunch of the feeds I just added posted simultaneously.

Mysticial

That'll be 14 messages each freeze interval.

So only one of us needs to bump it to keep it alive.

@ton.yeung :(

I don't know JS. :(

hwlau

@Mysticial what?

Mysticial

3:20 AM

k

ah... :(

hwlau

@Mysticial Should it all work out at once to reduce the attention?

Mysticial

@hwlau I don't think anyone will care.

You're allowed to fool around with chat rooms as long as it isn't disruptive to other rooms.

hwlau

ic

Mysticial

Shog ok'ed our gif-room.

Logan M

That's true to some degree. I'm not sure posting 10k messages per day counts.

Mysticial

3:23 AM

@LoganM That's actually not at all obvious.

Since the count doesn't show up unless you search.

hwlau

It is not obvious, but you two are suspicious :/

Logan M

There are examples of rooms getting closed when they didn't have a relevant discussion. See e.g. meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/139228/…

OTOH experimentation with chat is allowed to some degree also.

hwlau

really? then I should give it a try

will they leave some trace after the room is closed?

Mysticial

Yeah, we can see deleted rooms.

Logan M

Frozen rooms are visible to all users, and deleted rooms to 10k+ network-wide rep users

Chat SE is actually one of the worst places to try to hide stuff in deleted content, because over half of all regular users here can see deleted rooms.

Though the chance anyone actually ever looks is pretty low.

Krazer

3:32 AM

ok what'd I miss?

hwlau

Are you sure there is half of them have 10k+ using chat room?

I still don't have

Logan M

I actually checked this one time, and it was about half.

I'll check again though

hwlau

@Krazer They are feeding a room.

Krazer

I see you're discussing gallery room.

hwlau

@LoganM over half. why there is only high rep user using the chat room

Logan M

3:34 AM

@hwlau Just that high rep users are more likely to come here regularly.

Lower rep users still show up, but they aren't as regular.

hwlau

ya, low rep users usually don't even know there is chatroom.

@Mysticial So can you still see the deleted gif-room somewhere

Krazer

what we can do is give ppl owner status to help maintain it, but also some ppl write status if the nee ever arises

Logan M

There's a deleted gif room?

Krazer

@LoganM not in our community

Logan M

Yeah I'm pretty sure I know all the deleted rooms we've had.

Logan M

3:52 AM

lol I just saw this question through the feeds room.

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Q: How to get pornographic movies for scientific research purposes?

Recently, I have being planning to design an automatic pornographic movie detector with the machine learning knowledge that I just acquired. I am now in the stage of planning how to perform the system evaluation. The intuition is to just test the algorithms with some pornographic movies and some...

funding data

Mysticial

@LoganM lol, I already dropped that in the C++ room.

in Lounge<Anti-Questions> on Stack Overflow Chat, 52 mins ago, by Borgleader

Logan M

It's pretty hot right now

Memor-X

@LoganM google

hwlau

@Memor-X For machine learning purpose, you need someone to give good classified results as input. Google wouldn't tell you that

@LoganM I am surprised whether watching the feeding room is the only way to get real time new questions.

Krazer

►

hwlau

3:56 AM

It seems a good function to me

Memor-X

does animeseason.com legally stream anime?

from my understanding, there is no place which streams .hack legally

Krazer

@Memor-X FUNimation in the US

Memor-X

@Krazer have they started streaming it? from what i read they just have the licences

i can't exactly check cause of the geoblocking

Memor-X

4:21 AM

i'm mainly asking about this answer, i'd let it side for someone else to deal with if it wasn't mentioning how to use the website

Krazer

@Memor-X inono

funimation is weird

Memor-X

@Krazer as i said, from my understanding Funimation has the licenses which they got mid year but still only .hack//Quantum is streaming, and i'm just asking in regards to the answer i linked to in my previous post

Krazer

4:43 AM

@Memor-X I've all but given up on dubbed anime

Krazer

5:13 AM

it's @ton: i.imgur.com/ekWZj7c.jpg

Memor-X

@Krazer i want to say i doubt it because it's too cute but i have no idea what Ton looks like anyway

Shinobu Oshino

6:25 AM

Memor-X

@ShinobuOshino lol, that's almost as good as the ingame Cloud, Death Note or Minecraft Steve

Shinobu Oshino

Best... Cosplay... Ever...

Logan M

Not so sure about that

Memor-X

i really need to be able to tell from a glance if a site is illegal or not

Logan M

7:22 AM

What flag do we use for posts which are suggesting illegal streaming sites? This question has several.

Sakamoto

10:41 AM

0

Q: Why wasn't there an OP for Shinobu Time?

Each of the arcs of the Monogatari series so far (Hitagi Crab, Mayoi Snail, ..., Hitagi End) has had an OP theme sung by the arc's heroine1, save for Shinobu Time (i.e. Onimonogatari), which did not have an OP theme at all. What gives? Shinobu's voice actress is Maaya Sakamoto, who is probably t...

monogatari-series

Sakamoto

12:12 PM

0

Q: Meaning of the symbols used in Milky Way?

In the new episode of Fairy Tail for 2014, Wendy uses a secret Dragon Slayer Art, Milky Way which grants her the power to communicate or call upon souls of the dead. I couldn't help but notice the symbols. Is there some meaning behind it, are these required for this to work and is this a type ...

fairy-tail

Sakamoto

12:45 PM

0

Q: What to watch after samurai champloo

Please recommend me a manga/anime which is similar to samurai champloo. Has a historic setting and based on travel. I have seen ruroni kenshin and reading vagabond.

samurai-champloo

Hell Butterfly

0

Q: New users asking about Anime Recommendations

I have noticed that the first thing a new user does on this site is... Asks a question about recommendations on what anime to watch next and vice versa. I think we need to make this more clear on Anime and Manga.SE. We should clearly state in the tour not to ask questions such as this. But ...

discussion feature-request support

Planet Express Delivery

1:02 PM

0

Q: Cartoon with three heroes - one strong, one fast and one that could change into animals!

This is a children's cartoon from the 80s that was created in the US (I think) and shown on UK television. There were three main superhero characters - an older man who was super strong, a younger man who was very fast and a third - I think a woman - who could change into animals. They lived in ...

story-identification cartoon

Hell Butterfly

1:17 PM

0

Q: What does this mean?

I was recently going through my questions when I clicked on one of them and accidentally clicked in the middle of the upvote and downvote buttons and this happened. What does this mean? I have a fair idea what it is, but would still like an answer. Also how did I get this? I could never do it ...

discussion support

Braiam

4:21 PM

wondering why graduation takes so much time:

Can I finally get Photoshop plz? I'm sick 'n tired of Paint. — Jin ♦ 2 hours ago

Eric

Desperate men use GIMP.

Madara Uchiha

4:48 PM

@Braiam Real designers use a magnetized needle and a steady hand.

Planet Express Delivery

7:47 PM

0

Q: Cartoon with 4-5 robots with "special powers" on Saturday mornings in the US in the mid-80s

Does anyone remember a cartoon with 4-5 humanoid robots on Saturday morning in the mid-80s. As far as I can remember, they had "powers" to zap things and maybe fly but I don't remember much of the story/plot/enemies/powers. One scene I remember was the were on some ice world and were being chas...

tv robots cartoon

Sakamoto

7:59 PM

0

Q: Analysis of the song "いのちの名前” from the anime "Spirited Away"

Can someone give me an analysis of the meaning of the song "いのちの名前” from the anime "Spirited Away"?,because after watching it once and reading the translation of the song, I still can't guess what it tries to convey the meaning behind it. This is the lyrics: 青空に線を引く飛行機雲の白さはずっとどこまでもずっと続いていく明日を...

japanese-language theme-song spirited-away

Krazer

9:26 PM

@ton.yeung clean it up, it's dirty

Sakamoto

0

Q: Who is this female character from the 2011 series?

In the second half of the 233rd episode of the 2011 Doraemon series, titled "Gravity Paint" (重力ペンキ). There seems to be a new girl (left most one in the picture below) in the group. Who is she? When did she first appear? This portion of the episode was adapted from Chapter 72 of the manga chapt...

identification-request doraemon

Hell Butterfly

10:36 PM

0

Q: List of Legal Anime/Manga sites

Bellow is a list of Legal sites. When someone is reviewing questions/answers this list can be used to determine if a link to/mention of a site should be kept or removed. If the site isn't listed here either The site is illegal and the appropriate action as stated here should be taken. It may ha...

11:27 PM

@Memor-X Saber?

0

Q: When was the Wolkenritter summoned?

In Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha A's at the very beginning of the first episode it showns the Book of Darkness activating. Later in the series it shows this again but continuing on showing that the Wolkenritter were summoned at this time, after this they live like a regular family with Hayate. Whe...

nanoha

Krazer

@Mysticial no, the eyes give it away

Memor-X

@Mysticial Olivie Sägebrecht from Nanoha, who Vivio was cloned from

"Olivie bears a great resemblance to Saber from Fate/stay night in both appearance and back story. "

Mysticial

fuck...

Memor-X

11:32 PM

if Olivie didn't have heterochromia and kept her green eyes she could be a dead ringer for sure

Mysticial

Damn. I didn't notice that the right eye was green. I didn't question the color because it was in the shadow.

Sakamoto

11:47 PM

0

Q: A real challenge identifying an anime, shown on MTV, LOONG AGO

I've been looking for that thing forever, saw it maybe 15ish years ago, I think it was on MTV. Was still a kid back then. I saw only one episode. It was about a guy, he had a crush on this girl, wanted to get atleast somewhat close to her . . . memory blank in here . . . he somehow ended up a ja...

identification-request

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