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4:08 AM
@toscho, it will take at least two year before Tom is out of the EU, and the way the politics work, it might not happen at all ;)
 
 
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7:33 AM
lockdown pushing up the daisies.
 
 
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11:44 AM
Next up: google-translate.
 
 
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4:01 PM
greetings!
what is the unset to stop media from creating an image of 155x155??? Searching forever I can't seem to find it and Ive done unset( $sizes[ 'thumbnail' ]);
 
4:28 PM
Maybe see if there's a custom image size causing this by spitting out all image sizes
 
@Howdy_McGee ah that worked. couldnt find a Q&A on it do you want me to make one so I can accept that?
there was a size called featured_preview being created
 
Nah - info here always freebie.
Size was probably created by a plugin if you really wanted to track it down.
 
will do, but all plugins were disabled, too. So Im curious to know what is causing it.
and.. found it, lol
 
theme?
 
one I made, gotta stop late night coding when in zombie mode
 
5:27 PM
THis was a recent one related image resize
if the size is not registered in the theme ..
check the default media sizes under Settings-->Media
Oops! i missed this featured_preview , so it's definitely not the default one.So theme is the one that doing this
 
 
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7:48 PM
I know humor doesn't work here, but you still may want to check the comments under this question: wordpress.stackexchange.com/questions/230871/…
 
@cjbj Please don't tell me you've never missed the most obvious part. Please!?
 
I feel like we need a close reason like SO's 'this was caused by a typo or error that can no longer be reproduced and was solved in a way that won't help others' :P
 
too localized is made for that. could be better worded.
 
True. I just particularly like SO's wording
 
Yes, but they have more custom close reasons, and we had to fit every possibility into three.
 
7:57 PM
Oh yeah, I forget there's only 3
 
I'd like a reason Your question is bad, and you should feel bad.
4
covers everything
The crown for the best close reason ever goes to Pieter Goosen: I couldn't come up with an answer.
This has multiple levels of implications. Brilliant!
 
hahaha love them both =]
 
8:16 PM
@toscho How could I see he didn't include the javascript in his site? I was just asking him to post the code...
 
@cjbj that's not what I meant. nevermind
 
I've been digging in to old meta posts to read more about the history of unanswered/offtopic questions. Is it true we 'no longer have a consensus' about third-party plugins being off topic?
 
it's more a question about how strictly we should enforce that rule
I think many third-party questions could be reworded to fit into our scope, and we should give the asker help and an opportunity to do that, especially when they are new on our site.
I mean: without closing the question immediately
 
I think the premise of that sounds fair enough, particularly when the best solution might be to use a plugin or combination of plugins (i.e. why go and rewrite something like ACF, for instance)
But if a question requires answerers to go and download, test and debug a particular plugin... how could that be rewritten/reworded?
 
8:33 PM
It might be possible to extract the minimum of code that's needed to reproduce the issue. I admit, that's probably not possible for beginners.
on the other hand, the one who answers could ignore the plugin completely and focus on a generic solution
Two cases where I have done exactly that: 1, 2
 
"ignore ... and focus on a generic solution" That's not a bad point
Wow, those are great examples. Totally worthy of more upvotes too
 
the comments on the first example are … instructive. :) I had a small conversation with the plugin author later, he said I was right, but they couldn't change it anymore.
 
Hmm ok I might see if I can apply some of this thinking
 
When we close a question, we make it impossible for all answerers to do that.
 
@toscho You mean, "without closing the question weeks later"? I wonder how long, on average, it takes us to actually close a question as a community.
 
8:43 PM
The Q can still be edited though - to make it less about plugin support and more about 'what are some ways I can achieve this with WP'
(and then could be re-opened)
 
@Howdy_McGee yes, that's one problem with my approach. Once a question is out of sight, it might stay open for a long time.
@TimMalone Re-opening doesn't work so well on our site. Requires almost every time a mod.
 
I think in the years I've been here I've only witnessed one question being reopened after some edits.
 
Oh, I have re-opened many questions.
 
The biggest problem with allowing 3rd party questions is the lack of research on the user's side, almost always. Then trying to get the information needed to reproduce or attempt to solve becomes pulling teeth and usually a lengthy comment section.
 
And that's a problem of not having enough active high-rep users, right?
 
8:47 PM
I just think helping each other is slightly more important than our scope.
@TimMalone not enough in the reopen review queue
 
I agree, but it could make it hard to justify to users why that question was ok and theirs is not
 
Yes. The problem is the communication, not the scope.
 
It certainly is more important than our scope but this medium doesn't allow lengthy discussions to rely the central problem. That's more of a forum approach where this is more direct QA.
 
(on another topic) Is there a way to see historical rates of unanswered/no answers questions? Going to start working on this and just wondering if I should keep track of progress or if I can already see it somewhere
 
@TimMalone hmm, maybe with a query on data.stackexchange.com
 
8:53 PM
Ah, of course. will hunt for one there!
 
you can see the current state in the sites overview
 
@TimMalone This years "stats" has some helpful links that go to the DSE you could use as a starting point.
 
the handful of sites with 100% are pretty impressive
 
There is a small consolation in knowing that no matter how bad our answer rate is – Drupal's is worse.
 
Joomla leading the pack though at 86%
Oh, only 4k~ questions though
 
8:57 PM
yeah, beta sites have always a good answer rate
but once the enthusiasm wears of, these numbers decline
 
wow I did not even realise there was a Joomla site, ha
 
Regarding the third-party topic … excluding these topics had one sad side-effect: Some users come to WordPress development by solving plugin issues. We had some users who stopped almost all activity here, when we tightened our scope.
I remember some users who where active in BuddyPress or BBPress topics.
 
true, I must admit I like solving ACF questions on SO
 
I don't mind solving Contact Form 7 topics - I still try to when they pop-up on my feed anyway. I would say we could do a 6-12 month experiment allowing these types of question and just closing low quality questions but that would probably undo everything we've done so far to keep 3rd party plugins under-control.
A lot of the contact-form-7 questions are pretty low quality or broad though.
 
9:14 PM
If we were going to make any change I think we'd need a big, community effort on considering the pro's and con's, the wording, what to do in this situation/that situation etc.. i.e. we'd need to consider everything. We wouldn't want to rehash old ground just for the sake of it
 
I think we would need more active commitment from the community. Review queues are gonna go beserk and lots of people will have edge-case questions.
I mean, we haven't had the plugin meta discussion yet this year, the one you resurrected was year+ old
 
Yeah, I've only really become active this year, hence looking back on the history :) (but I imagine this probably happens regularly with new people?)
 
Yeah, seems to be the case in which once a year we have a discussion on what is considered on/off-topic and what we can do to better communicate that to new users.
Sometimes it's constructive and sometimes nothing ever comes out of it.
 
One real problem are users who downvote good answers to "off-topic" questions. Makes me really angry.
 
Fresh ideas are always good.
I've never understood the point of downvoting any answer with substance. Why do that at all?
 
9:23 PM
I have some offending theories, so I better keep my mouth shut. :)
 
I think it could be because it's discouraged to answer an off-topic question, since doing so just encourages more off-topic questions
(I don't think I've downvoted answers like that though, just the Qs. Answers have to be really wrong for me to downvote)
 
But that's silly. No one is looking at the quality of older questions that aren't directly related to the current problem.
 
Unless ppl search and use similar questions as justifications to ask their own. Or, they got an answer last time so they come back again with another off-topic question
 
@TimMalone I don't think that answering off-topic questions should be discouraged. The close banner should be discouraging for users enough not to ask the questions.
 
But that assumes the close banner gets there quick enough :) Who would really care if they get the answer first anyway?
 
9:29 PM
bah, these low rep users and their advice
 
I've never seen Dennis, thus he doesn't exist and the answer is invalid :)
Usually with Off-topic questions I'll throw a comment with a short answer, push in the right direction, plus letting them know the type of question is off-topic. That being said if a question does has a solid answer that I can quickly put together and it may benefit other people, I'll leave an answer.
 
he has a bonus-only profile on our site :)
 
Ah, those are metaSE, didn't notice :S
 
any chess players here? I am completely stuck
 
9:34 PM
haha, I don't even have an account there. should get one
It's my move, and I have no idea
nevermind, found it
 
where?
 
g2-g4
looks much better now :D
the pawn on g5 was the only unprotected position
 

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