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6:21 PM

hello there

@MarkC.Wallace, was thinking of removing the historical comments on that pm.stackexchange.com/q/21467/430

and I believe you already did, if I'm not wrong

I just wanted to avoid these harsh chatty discussions to be kept; they're not adding much value (although Venture's point on Acronym is 100% accurate)

what's your thoughts?

Venture2099

Hi guys - I might have joined late

Tiago Cardoso

hello there"

!

Venture2099

Has something been removed?

Tiago Cardoso

let me paste again, if you can't check chat history

Venture2099

I did not think I was overly harsh

Tiago Cardoso

6:26 PM

hello there
@MarkC.Wallace, was thinking of removing the historical comments on that pm.stackexchange.com/q/21467/…
and I believe you already did, if I'm not wrong
I just wanted to avoid these harsh chatty discussions to be kept; they're not adding much value (although Venture's point on Acronym is 100% accurate)
what's your thoughts?

not at all - and you had a fair point

you were teaching, after all

Venture2099

I remember by first ever Scrum post and being corrected on the acronym :-D

Tiago Cardoso

hehehe

yeah

Venture2099

I think it was CodeGnome haha

Tiago Cardoso

I also noticed you took your time updating it - thanks!

I was just wondering if we wanted to remove the comment trail to avoid the 'argument-like' historial

Venture2099

No problem. If my post seemed snarky it was an accident

Tiago Cardoso

6:28 PM

definitely!!

not a problem at all!

Venture2099

Sure? How is your day going Tiago?

Tiago Cardoso

I don't know, just wanted to know how we could make the community a better place :D

well, my family is on a trip, so I'm taking my time to study a bit

Venture2099

PM SE is prob the best SE community I am part of

What you studying?

Tiago Cardoso

cisi.org

got one certif, working on the 2nd

Venture2099

I am studying CISI

Tiago Cardoso

6:30 PM

:O

Venture2099

Small world

Tiago Cardoso

hell yeah!

Venture2099

Capital Markets and Corporate Finance

Tiago Cardoso

what a coincidence!

I'm doing the IT-oriented one

still thinking what would be the 3rd one

do you work for the financial sector too?

Venture2099

Kind of. I am an Agile Coach and currently contracted to an Insurance company

But I got into through personal derivatives trading and personal interest

How about yourself? Are you UK based?

Tiago Cardoso

6:34 PM

work for UK, located in Spain

and I'm Brazilian, working for German company

globalization is interesting

Venture2099

Wow...multi lingual? Portugese, Spanish, English and maybe a little German?

Tiago Cardoso

no german... hadn't time (although I started to have some classes of Catalan)

Venture2099

Brexit is not my country's finest hour. Quite ashamed actually.

Tiago Cardoso

but after Brexit, seems that German will be the one to go

I can tell you that was in my plans to move to London in the future

now... I'm not sure

a pitty, for everyone

Venture2099

I am getting a lot of job offers for Amsterdam, Luxembourg and Northern Germany

Barclaycard are moving their digital teams to Hamburg quietly

Tiago Cardoso

6:37 PM

it seems there's where the financial core is likely to move in the coming years

I read that UK authorities asked major institutions for plans on brexit

they had no other option

as one said.. "there's no cherry picking"

Venture2099

Indeed. If you are currently seeking new opportunities then connect with me on LinkedIn. I am always happy to forward on opportunities.

Tiago Cardoso

oh, nice! linkedin.com/in/tdcardoso

will keep one eye on opportunities

Venture2099

I think that is right - each company is quietly making plans to move tech and finance to Europe

Request sent :-)

Tiago Cardoso

and accepted!

Mark C. Wallace

@TiagoCardoso Concur; I removed the comment. You are correct, the comment added no value.

Tiago Cardoso

6:42 PM

@MarkC.Wallace cheers - just didn't want to do any intervention without having your guys opinion

I'm not sure what to do with that question

shall we just leave as is?

Tiago Cardoso

6:56 PM

@Venture2099 btw - do you think the CISI really adds value on our leadership roles?

I appreciate it's easier to understand requirements

so, it's my benefit - but I'm not sure if there's any other added value beyond the self knowledge

i.e. have you heard about firms seeking for certified people?

Venture2099

@TiagoCardoso Not specifically but I wanted an alternative to the MBA

and Chartered Status is respected in the UK

Tiago Cardoso

@Venture2099 interesting, nice to hear

Venture2099

If you consider that Lean Startup and Entrepreneurship is largely about Product and raising Capital then CISI can be really valuable

Without ever having to even refer to your qualification

I was tired of being presented with a term sheet for a start up that looked like financial swahili

The Corporate Finance side is also a great background in linking projects / programmes to wider strategic aims

How do we account for value in Agile? How do we ensure Shareholders are represented in good governance?

Tiago Cardoso

@Venture2099 indeed it's definitely an added value - helps a lot on the daily work

Venture2099

It's the other side of the coin

For me - I think it gives credibility when dealing with non-Agile c-level roles

Tiago Cardoso

7:09 PM

which are the key people to deal with - if everyone else buys in but the senior management doesn't... it's all lost

you do trainings on firms only or you do personal coaching as well?

I've heard about a bunch of people in UK interested to know more about agile but didn't had time to dedicate - maybe if you have the means, I'd be happy to introduce you

Venture2099

I am actually just putting together a personal training course now. How spooky...

Small group coaching is where I get my best referrals

I would love for you to broker an introduction. Very much appreciated

Tiago Cardoso

Do you work in the City?

Tiago Cardoso

7:32 PM

Hello @Sarov! We were discussing what to do with the comments on that question

as it seems the whole question was a bit confusing

and I invited you folks here to discuss if we wanted to leave the trail of comments as they were or if we should just remove them to reduce the 'noise' it had created - Mark for instance removed his own comment

not a big deal, just wanted to ensure jonplaca had understood the idea of the community

unfortunately he hasn't joined the room yet

Venture2099

I work in Norwich and Sheffield at the minute. Before that I was in London getting involved with startups

London is great but the commute was a killer. 90 mins every morning on the train.

Where in Spain are you Tiago?

Tiago Cardoso

Valencia

A very nice city to live!

sunny almost the whole year

very different from London

@Venture2099 will introduce you through linkedIn then - was wondering if you were by the City, I could personally introduce you next time I go there

Venture2099

7:47 PM

Let's definitely meet up for a coffee when you are back in London anyway! More than a coffee.

Make a night of it

Tiago Cardoso

@Venture2099 deal - I'm working to go by early May, but there's a lot going on and I may need to postpone it. Anyways, will definitely ping you

I just realised... that in our community we might have one of the most powerful networking tool... which has been never used.

hehe

and the nice part is that we already (kind of) know each other, making the ice-breaker easier

Venture2099

For real

I am friends with CodeGnome, we speak fairly often. Which is good considering we started vehemently opposed to each others viewpoints haha ;-)

But it's not an empty gesture - hit me up when you are London bound and we can crush some T Bone steaks or ribs and head into Covent Garden

Right guys - gotta go. Am prepping to drive to Carcassone tomorrow. Have a great weekend.

Tiago Cardoso

8:03 PM

happy Easter!

and have a nice trip

WOW - just googled this Carcassone.. it's amazing!

Sarov

@TiagoCardoso Yeah, with the title update, my comment isn't really needed anymore. I'll remove it.

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