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5:40 PM
TIL about the "unmatched count technique" in statistics / polling.
Basically, it's a way to ask people embarrassing questions that doesn't require them to give a direct answer, and thus makes them more likely to answer honestly.
The way it works, is to have a list of like 10 totally questions or so, and then give that to one group of people. Instead of answering yes/no for each question individually, they answer with a single number saying how many of those statements are true.
 
That's neat.
 
Then, you take those same 10 questions, plus the socially-awkward 11th target question, and ask them to a different group of people.
And you compare the numbers that people give across the two groups.
How much it increases, is an estimate for the number of people that said "yes" to the embarrassing target question.
 
Oh, I should've waited to say "That's neat.", 'cause that's actually pretty cool.
 
I found out about this from a paper that claims that the real number of atheists is significantly higher than what any of the direct polling shows: osf.io/preprints/psyarxiv/edzda (although I'm not gonna get into that debate here.)
 
@PhiNotPi I like how the number of atheists slowly grows as you continue to read the paper. :D
 
6:05 PM
@flawr I did like the "don't add one", I just felt like I was missing a second layer. Just overthinking it I guess...
 
Everyone seems to have forgotten Jellyfish
@El'endiaStarman @trichoplax and it's nice to see you again
 
This room has been a huge success. You have managed to filter a significant amount of signal away from TNB...
@LeakyNun Thank you :) I like to drop in here when I can as it's always interesting and I can occasionally find something I understand
 
> Rather surprisingly,and in contrast to previous unmatched count validation(Coffman et al., How many atheists are there? 132016), we observed a reliable difference between these two conditions, with people indicating more statements true of them in the mathematical impossibility condition (M= 3.62, SD= 1.16) than in the baseline condition (M= 3.27, SD= 1.15), mean difference = .340 [.198, .477]. This result is, frankly, bizarre and we are hesitant to speculate a great deal about its causes.
Where the mathematical impossibility condition is "I do not believe that 2 + 2 is less than 13.".
 
Putting in a question that isn't subjective is just asking for mischief...
 
@LeakyNun me too... what is Jellyfish?
 
@El'endiaStarman might be trolling... might also be the negative? As in, asked how many statements are true, and they are presented with a true math statement but are expected to answer true if the math is wrong.
 
The prompt was "How many of the statements below are true of you?" with a list of six innocuous statements and that one (or "I do not believe in God.").
 
6:44 PM
> How many of the statements below are true?
> * zero
> * two
> * two
> * two
 
 
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7:57 PM
@LeakyNun I do try to keep the chatroom unfrozen.
 
 
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9:15 PM
So here's my business idea of the day:
My university has something called "dining dollars" AKA fake money that you can use to buy food.
The upside is that paying with dining dollars is tax-free and so you save 6-7% on every purchase, and you get some free meals with the purchase of the dining plan, the downside is that they expire at the end of the semester.
And so occasionally people end up with too many dining dollars at the end of the semester that they need to get rid of.
And so my plan, is to create a service that matches people who have excessive dining dollars, with people who are willing to pay real money for the food. Person with dining dollars buys the food, and the end customer pays the other student with real money, so it's a win-win.
One person converts their fake money into real money, and the second buys food at a discounted rate.
 
10:00 PM
Is that allowed?
PS: Anyone familiar with Groebner bases? I have a question.
 
@flawr no clue
 
I had the idea to make a challenge out of that, but then I noticed that I don't know whether it is possible to actually find a concrete closed set.
 
10:28 PM
Yay, snow again!
 
@flawr Is that unusual at this time of year in your area?
 
Relatively (april is known for being "moody"), but just two weeks ago we had about 25°C/ 77°F
And now I have to dig out my gloves and my cap again:)
I mean, I like it as I'm not very fond of summer.
 

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