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12:03 AM
oh my 神様, there is a mountain of confusion embodied in the Q&A of Are there many words that have the same pronunciation ambiguity as Nihon/Nippon? japanese.stackexchange.com/questions/3492/…
日本 is the homographic kanji of two distinct words "にほん" and "にっぽん"
i want to answer with an explanation
well, ill just give a go and see
what is the article referred to in that Q
okay nvm
 
 
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1:57 AM
@taylor You seem to be having a consistent problem of using Western grammar terms to try to describe Japanese. It really doesn't work, if you need to be pedantic about anything.
 
homograph?
 
"homographic kanji of two distinct words" is an interesting claim
Japanese does have several cases where they feel it is "one word, with two pronunciations"... a claim that should not be dismissed out of hand
 
Ive just been going off of the Routledge Dictionary of Language and Linguistics 1996
Homography: A form of lexical ambiguity and special type of homonymy. Two expressions are homographic if they are orthographically identical but have different meanings. Such expressions usually have different pronunciations, e.g. bass (fish) vs bass (tone) and are not normally etymologically related to one another ( cf polysemy).
 
It doesn't much matter... even a cursory look at these sorts of terms shows that they're not adequate for Japanese. (or any other language with multiple non-parallel scripts)
 
oh no, you know what, your absolutely right, 日本 is not homographic in this sense
just pronunciation is neutralized by the kanji, not the meaning
oh
nah just have to be applied script-specific thats all
japanese orthography doesn't have homography, but hiragana, katakana, romaji and kanji all have their own versions of homography
or homonymy or whatelse
thats why ive been saying "homonymy in kanji"
cuz these defs are only relative to a single script
 
 
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3:39 AM
I tried searching for イルカ肉 , and then イルカ in cookpad, but I think I'm getting a lot of false negatives. It's that tokenization thingumybob isn't it?
Regarding japanese.stackexchange.com/questions/6625/… , crocodile meat is available at a Chinese-run butcher just down the street from me in Sydney, Australia.
Crocodile meat is pretty much a non-issue in Australia. Australians don't have an antipathy against crocodiles any more due to Steve Irwin (the person). If you want to hear about antipathy against animals in Australia, ask anyone about cane toads.
But hardly anyone eats crocodile meat.
Kangaroo is about 50:50 controversial. Some people approve, and some people don't approve.
And then there's some animals whose eating is almost universally disapproved of, unless someone's wanting to be controversial.
 
 
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6:32 AM
Only food I would hesitate to eat in Japan... fugu
a) I don't like fish enough to appreciate any particular features of it b) I don't particularly want to participate in the thrill-seeking aspect of "I'm eating something deadly"... I get enough of that eating supermarket chicken, thank you very much
 
 
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8:01 AM
If fugu really is so dangerous.. I wonder how much trial and error went into figuring out how to eat it.. And if it was just for the hell of it, because I mean, they have plenty of other food resources.
 
8:22 AM
@gibbon Oh... I don't think it's particularly dangerous. But basically all of the thrill of eating it would be lost on me
 
 
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9:59 AM
they prolly fed it to another animals first
 
 
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1:45 PM
> 河豚毒動物試験に使用された動物は蛙・蛇・鯉・鮒・鰻・鯵・河豚・鳩・鶏・鼠・兎・猫・犬を使用、日本初の薬理試験であった。
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%AB%98%E6%A9%8B%E9%A0%86%E5%A4%AA%E9%83%8E#cite_note-29
 
 
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8:56 PM
@ento No hibachi now please. It is too hot without one already. Idobata (井戸端) is season-neutral, but it lacks originality as Japanese Wikipedia already uses this name for a discussion page for the entire Japanese Wikipedia.
 
 
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10:06 PM
hmmm
the author of 入門自然処理 has quite the sense of humour ive found
one of the chapter examples has you access books from the gutenberg website
via python
i did just that, and the string returned was "Forbidden access. Any percieved use of automated tools to access our website will result in a temporary or permanent block of your IP address or subnet, to protect our human users"
 

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