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12:00 AM
i just saw a bunch of fox guys saying "dont trust the numbers"
anyone who trusts the numbers are ideologues
 
Well... as recently as 2 weeks ago the polls were split. I thought that was going to produce a popularvote/electoral college split.
national vs battleground states... but the money was on a narrow Obama victory. It was wider than I was expecting, but narrower than the more popular polls were saying
And... they do partly have a point... the polls were pretty transparently ideological in 2004 and 2000. Although we now know that at least one of the major pollsters was just making up numbers and selling them. >_>
I do wonder if that 'ideological bias' remains if you remove that case of outright fraud.
 
 
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2:55 AM
I have my doubts about the education list, and the racial breakdown
 
3:40 AM
japanese.stackexchange.com/q/9368/921 I want to say you need both, but I don't know why
it sounds empty without このまま
 
 
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Anonymous
12:02 PM
Does the Japanese R change at all following ん?
 
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A: Why do Japanese speakers have difficulty pronouncing "L"?

alexandrecIf you ask a Japanese person to say a word like renraku fast, and then gradually ask them to say it more and more slowly, you will notice that what initially sounded like an r becomes an l as they slow down (usually earlier on for women). So the claim that l and r don't exist is simply wrong -- t...

According to alexandrec's observation of renraku, it does
 
According to wikipedia http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%89%E8%A1%8C
> 「り」を除く「ら」行音の場合は一般的に、.. 撥音(ん)の後では歯茎側面はじき音、そり舌側面接近音または有声そり舌破裂音に発音され
>撥音(ん)の後を除く語中、語尾では歯茎はじき音または硬口蓋を舌先で軽く弾くそり舌はじき音に発音される
 
 
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3:33 PM
@snailplane although I couldn't find the comment mentioned by @Flaw that says that, it's pretty rare to see a westerner pronounce 便利 correctly for that reason
 
4:19 PM
yahoo.ca has an interesting front page today
speaking of polls
"Do you feel safe travelling to Mexico?"
i drew informative arrows
@snailplane yeah it does. the [ɾ] following the nasal [N] isn't the usual tap
"The allophone that occurs after a nasal is the same as the one that occurs in utterance-initial position; the tongue tip is already lightly in contact with the alveolar ridge for the nasal, and /r/ is produced by rapidly releasing this contact"
page 97, The Sounds of Japanese
 
4:51 PM
you know the yakuza trill of [r], i wonder if they can do it on words like ラーメン
 
 
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Anonymous
8:00 PM
㊑ ㈱ ㍿ ㏍ ← I wonder how universally these render
 
Anonymous
I was just thinking about it after I saw jlptn1's question with all the (株) written with full-width parentheses
 
8:25 PM
> 「り」を除く「ら」行音の場合は一般的に、.. 撥音(ん)の後では歯茎側面はじき音、そり舌側面接近音または有声そり舌破裂音に発音され
>撥音(ん)の後を除く語中、語尾では歯茎はじき音または硬口蓋を舌先で軽く弾くそり舌はじき音に発音される
>>>むずっ。わからへん。。。
 
@Chocolate Welcome back!
 
Hello~~
 
was beginning to think the British had decided to keep you, or something
 
^o^~ I'll be staying here till next 8月.
 
oh cool! 留学?
 
Anonymous
8:28 PM
@Chocolate I sat down with my dictionary for a while ^-^; but I'm interested in linguistics terms, so I feel like I'm getting something out of it :-)
 
実は、I'm not a student, and my visa allows me to stay here for just one year. It is not a student visa, I think it's something like... "visitor's visa"
Linguistics terms are difficult, ねぇ~? (for me too. Even in Japanese.)
 
Anonymous
Hehe! I think they're hard in English, too :-) I'm learning, though.
 
can i ask, where are you doing 留学, chocolate
 
@taylor err... pretty sure she just said she isn't ("I'm not a student")
 
Anonymous
Actually, I think some of them are more transparent in Japanese. Like, 歯茎 is easier for me to remember than alveolar, because alveolar is very nearly opaque to me
 
Anonymous
8:35 PM
I don't use the word alveoli often enough to remember what it means.
 
Anonymous
but at least with 歯茎 the kanji give me a reminder :-)
 
「らりるれろ」pronunciations are difficult for Japanese learners? At first, when I first started learning English at junior high, my teacher said "English R is difficult.", but later on I thought that "L" was more difficult for Japanese speakers.
 
oh she did your right lolz
 
@Chocolate Hmm... I have a Japanese friend who has lived in the US for the last 15 years. He can pronounce L and R correctly, but says he can't hear the difference.
 
Oh... 15 years. I think I also have difficulty hearing the difference between "V" and "B"...
And I think I can't tell "rose" from "roads". ("~z" and "~ds"?)
 
Anonymous
8:43 PM
My Thai friend was just trying to teach me to listen for the sound he described as "between English p and b". It's voiceless and unaspirated
 
Anonymous
I could kind of tell when he pointed it out, but it basically just sounded like a p to me.
 
@Chocolate I can definitely see that... the 'd' can disappear in ~ds pretty easily
 
Anonymous
It's a weird experience knowing he can easily tell the difference, but I can't really hear it.
 
Ah, same thing happens when I hear Chinese, I think.
Chinese "P" and "B, "K" and "G", "Ji" "qi" "chi" etc... confusing
My Internet connection is unstable... I've been kicked out ^o^
 
I think that was actually the stackexchange site, I got kicked too
 
Anonymous
8:54 PM
Hehe, me too! I think it might have been something on or closer to the StackExchange servers
 
i was wondering what that was
 
Oh~ you too~~
 
 
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10:35 PM
looks like there's a new twitter account for SE service status updates: twitter.com/StackStatus
 
Anonymous
Yay! But now I'm one more followee away from follower-followee equilibrium.
 
Anonymous
I feel off-kilter
 

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