talk.tryitonline.net - 2017-06-15

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12:09 AM

@WheatWizard Hmm CraneFlak takes 9 seconds, and that's under WSL :P I think CraneFlak is actually faster than BrainHack

12:26 AM

@ASCII-only That seems to be the case

It has less features though

12:41 AM

@WheatWizard The brain-flak compiler produces one that runs in 2.88s :P

Which one?

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4:37 AM

@WheatWizard Conor's

@Dennis Can you pull Charcoal? Thanks

5:03 AM

@ASCII-only how long does compilation take?

@Phoenix For what

The quine in the BF compiler

@Phoenix Too long :P like 10 seconds

It takes way to long to compile with -O3, I stopped it after like 30 mins

5:27 AM

@ASCII-only Done.

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11:19 AM

@Dennis Can you please pull Brachylog?

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2:03 PM

@Dennis does TIO's java use the jre or the jdk? I'm looking to use a library that is bundled in the jdk but not the jre

It looks like you have the JDK downloaded but the java executable is in the JRE directory (the jre comes with the jdk)

@Poke isn't the JDK required to compile anything?

yes

but after it's compiled it needs to run

and it looks like tio is using the java executable that is in the jre folder

rather than the jdk's bin folder

So the compiler can find the library, but the runtime can't?

well the compiler can't either technically

but i can pass compiler flags on tio

so i can manually add it to the classpath

so yes, the runtime cannot

i guess i can add an Argument to alter the classpath for the runtime too

hmm, that doesn't seem to be working

Try it online!

same thing happens if i separate the arguments

probably me doing something wrong

3:19 PM

@Dennis Can you pull Braingolf please?

@Dennis could you pull Triangular please?

And if you have time, maybe add Cubically?

@Mayube Done.

@MDXF Done. .oO(One day, I'll actually just pull it and forget to compile.)

3:46 PM

@Poke After two levels of symbolic links /usr/bin/java points to /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.8.0-openjdk-1.8.0.131-1.b12.fc25.x86_64/jre/bin/java.

I assume you want /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.8.0-openjdk-1.8.0.131-1.b12.fc25.x86_64/bin/java instead, yes?

@Dennis As a third party, I can say that that is what reflects my own setups.

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5:08 PM

@Dennis yeah i think that should work

5:20 PM

@Poke Would that have any adverse effects, i.e., could old permalinks break because they relied on JRE?

that is a good question

honestly i'm not sure

i would think not

I'd be okay leaving it as the JRE if I could get adding a jar to the runtime classpath to work. (See my TIO link above)

that should be the equivalent to what i'm doing on my computer

although i guess that's probably program arguments

that... makes more sense, haha

5:36 PM

So what we need is a way to pass command-line options to java? That can be arranged.

yeah that's probably a less risky change on your end

IDK enough C# to know if it's also a problem there.

But it might be, it has a special runtime too, which might take args.

dotnet (core) only really has -v for verbose, however mono can take runtime options for optimizations, which GC to use, etc.

6:28 PM

@Poke It doesn't error now, but it also doesn't do anything. Is that expected?

Not live yet.
https://dev.tio.run/##rZHLbsIwEEX3@Qorq6Qlk4a2CBV1RbvrAwmJLhCqjDHBaZKJ/AAkxK@TOg6Ptut6Yc@M59w7ljO6phFWvMwWX3UtigqlJpktgkC4Gng/K0aLvKl5LKdKkQnZecSuysxzwYjSVNtjjWJBCirKYKylKNPpjFCZqpDolcSNIs9bxistsLS0w5vVthKnO6J6RR7JsIlhifKNFjzwJ34IKdcjiZqzBn9CZ@KqQ1zwMRrJeJu/IKNNT5s1gkFIrok/AefgD87Gfyb4kEJz6V5bvRttxyj55tddEF5ghgUoU4JGzBU4CF7tUCBNGVzA6WznR7nfIX7E7H5@5L7j1Ee2Rx/FT8bh0WXvefu6PrBlTlNVR2kdObqydA0PsVEyzsU8ztZF3KBRAn24OX1nm0Fym9honnRhybr3sO33Pnt3DjvNLQ/ofsQ6sOo/db8B

that is expected based on what i have there.

you can print it out after the previously-offending line

System.out.println(javapOut.toString());

i guess you don't need to explicitly call toString

lulz

Excellent. I'll rebuild then.

tio.run/…

good stuff

nice quick turnaround

thanks

Btw, I'd use /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.8.0-openjdk/lib/tools.jar instead, so it won't break when Java 8 receives a minor update.

will do

earlier i had chosen that based on System.getProperty("java.home")

iirc

6:53 PM

@Dennis Can you please pull Brachylog?

Sorry @Dennis would you mind pulling (and compiling :P) Triangular again?

7:10 PM

@Fatalize Done.

@MDXF Done and done.

Thanks :D

7:29 PM

Thanks

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