TeX, LaTeX and Friends

Joseph Wright

6:46 AM

Morning @DavidCarlisle

@DavidCarlisle i guess you are popping in here before heading out

TeXnician

7:56 AM

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Q: Latex optional text and footnotes

Sometimes I am writing for two audiences. I have a complete document with extra footnotes and perhaps extra background paragraphs for an ordinary reader. And another version that omits this background detail which is considered assumed knowledge in the other audience. Is there a latexy way to ha...

Why was ^^ this closed? The OP needs something different than the dup question offers.

Joseph Wright

@TeXnician Reopened

Johannes_B

8:15 AM

@TeXnician tex.stackexchange.com/questions/370902/… Same here.

TeXnician

@Johannes_B You're right, I voted for closure before those details were added.

Johannes_B

@PauloCereda Look at the references of this article and what is linked therein. ondahostil.wordpress.com/2017/05/27/…

@ChristianHupfer ^^^^^^

TeXnician

@Johannes_B You wanted some more attention for your post?

Johannes_B

@TeXnician I wonder why the guy links to my stuff.

TeXnician

@Johannes_B It's a great explanation. Why shouldn't he link there?

Johannes_B

8:28 AM

@TeXnician Which one?

TeXnician

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A: How to customize my titlepage?

The titlepage is one of the first pages of a book or thesis. This page contains only the title in a fashion similar to the rest of the text within the book. That is what Wikipedia tells us, now we have a perspective to follow, the titlepage should match the appearance of the rest of the book or ...

@Johannes_B ^^ This one.

Johannes_B

@TeXnician Ah.

@TeXnician There is also a link to my titlepages github repo.

TeXnician

@Johannes_B Well, also not bad. Seems to be a fan of you ;)

Johannes_B

@TeXnician That's what i thought. :-) The wikibook is linked as well.

TeXnician

@Johannes_B You're right. But those linked packages aren't yours, are they?

Johannes_B

8:32 AM

@TeXnician no, they are not. I don't have any stuff on CTAN.

TeXnician

@Johannes_B Why not? A package that detects bad templates would be a great idea!

@PauloCereda I accepted your advice and (again) used ducks in a MWE ;)

Johannes_B

@TeXnician It would detect the MastersDoctoralThesis template. Which is kind of contradicting.

CarLaTeX

@TeXnician I've just done the same :)

TeXnician

@Johannes_B I would check for any name thats a *thesis.cls ;) You'll be nearly every time right.

Johannes_B

@TeXnician You might have seen github.com/johannesbottcher/MDT-Quick-Manual of course you have, it was linked in the question a few minutes ago.

TeXnician

8:36 AM

@CarLaTeX Nice (long) post. But only one picture with duck...

CarLaTeX

@TeXnician I didn't want to exaggerate ;-)

TeXnician

@Johannes_B Yeah, that's why I said nearly every time. One can, of course, not cover every good template that may be published by one of those fools who dislike those bad templates available!

CarLaTeX

@TeXnician I used a photo of mine because I don't think there is an example image with the underscore in the name, in graphicx package

Johannes_B

@TeXnician I dislike all templates. Because i don't understand the concept.

TeXnician

@CarLaTeX You? If you had the tikzducks package you would have had many ducks. Admit it!

CarLaTeX

8:40 AM

@TeXnician I admit it hahaha

TeXnician

@Johannes_B Me too. Especially those from a school/university that forces you to use bad typography (and sometimes those fonts like "Arial"). The day that content matters again (and not layout) will be a happy one.

Johannes_B

@TeXnician I read a blog post a few days ago where it was explained why Arial and TNR are so common in those rules.

TeXnician

@Johannes_B And what's the reason? I cannot think of one.

CarLaTeX

@Johannes_B Because TNR was the default in Word and Arial the first of the list?

Johannes_B

@TeXnician When the first PCs came and students started to write not using a typewriter, those were the fonts available on nearly every machine. And since sending pdfs wasn't the norm, people needed to use the fonts that everybody has.

@CarLaTeX Yes.

Christian Hupfer

8:44 AM

@Johannes_B ????

TeXnician

@Johannes_B Yeah, and then they used that bad copied font Arial...

CarLaTeX

@Johannes_B LOL I imagined that because I know my colleagues

TeXnician

@CarLaTeX I thought that this was one of those teacher tricks to feel modern. "Oh there's a font with >New<. That has to be good."

@ChristianHupfer Am I right there ^^?

CarLaTeX

@TeXnician :):):):)

Johannes_B

@TeXnician wissenschafts-thurm.de/…

Christian Hupfer

8:48 AM

@TeXnician I don't know what you're referring to

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer Apparently, i have a fan.

TeXnician

@ChristianHupfer To TNR as one of the German teacher's favorite fonts.

Christian Hupfer

@TeXnician That's their bad design decision, not mine

TeXnician

@ChristianHupfer Does your school has a nice font-fixed guideline for scientific work?

Christian Hupfer

@TeXnician No

TeXnician

8:53 AM

@ChristianHupfer Freedom for students? Bad idea ;)

CarLaTeX

@Johannes_B I can't upvote your post about title pages because I had already upvoted that, but you forgot the niche package frontespizio (it's a pity that it's costumized only for Italian students) :):):)

Johannes_B

@CarLaTeX en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/…

CarLaTeX

@Johannes_B Ooooh

TeXnician

@CarLaTeX Funny enough that all package options are in English, while the commands are Italian...

CarLaTeX

@TeXnician You should ask the author :):):)

Johannes_B

9:00 AM

@CarLaTeX @TeXnician The whole chain is there. The answer here links to the wikibook, which links to the github repo.

egreg

@TeXnician That's the usage at the “Università di Pietrascambio”

TeXnician

@egreg What? English options and Italian commands? So if the prof wants you to decide something it's in English and if he wants you to do something it's in Italian?

egreg

@TeXnician All the manual’s frontispiece is a joke.

@TeXnician Seriously: package options follow the common style (that is, English); on the other hand, the body is for Italian documents.

TeXnician

@egreg Yeah, but do Italians really define own sectioning commands etc? Those are typically in English too...

egreg

@TeXnician No, of course.

daleif

9:55 AM

@egreg @DavidCarlisle I kinda just want the t-shirt for this:

m.facebook.com/…

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egreg

@daleif Starred!

daleif

10:22 AM

@egreg sadly not up for sale. Hopefully their merchandise will include the name and slogan

TeXnician

11:39 AM

I wanted to mark this as dup, but didn't find any similar post. Do we really lack a real explanation on line-spacing?

Johannes_B

11:58 AM

@TeXnician Do we have on for this? I find it really pointless to give the same answer same answer same asnwer same answer same answer over and over again.

TeXnician

@Johannes_B Well, we have, but Heiko was faster.

Johannes_B

@TeXnician We can still mark as duplicate. And add to the often referenced questions if it isn't on this list already.

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egreg

12:14 PM

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Q: Double line spacing

I would like to typeset a draft of my document with double linespacing so that my collaborators have space to write in their edits (with a pen). How do I do it?

line-spacing setspace

TeXnician

@egreg You're right. I did not see that. Then someone can flag the post.

egreg

@TeXnician Already closed: gold badge hammer ;-)

TeXnician

@egreg Those gold badges are very convenient ;)

barbara beeton

12:33 PM

@egreg -- added to "often referenced" list.

TeXnician

@barbarabeeton That's a good idea. Thanks.

Paulo Cereda

1:42 PM

@TeXnician ooh :)

egreg

3:11 PM

@PauloCereda What about SPFC? :(

Paulo Cereda

@egreg oh do not mention that. :( I thought it was going to be an easy game. :(

@egreg: thankfully the league is just in the beginning. :)

David Carlisle

5:54 PM

@JosephWright yes (was just getting a postcode:-)

@daleif we should club together and get one for @PauloCereda

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle oh no

daleif

6:16 PM

@DavidCarlisle I had a chat with them, their merchandise will have EMACS on it, but sadly not the slogan. I'll give a heads up when it comes online. I'm planning on going to see the games.

yo'

8:20 PM

R.I.P. Ricky John Best and Taliesin Myrddin :-(

egreg

8:31 PM

@yo' Astonishing.

yo'

@egreg not the word I had in mind, but you're completely right.

I mean, we shall remember that actions like these guys shown make important examples of our "responsibility for the world".

egreg

@yo' Fully agree

yo'

I mean (I can't stop myself sorry), it's wicked, you survive two wars where you fight inside the Islam part of the world just to be killed by some MF idiot in your homeland :(

yo'

9:47 PM

the electricity is shut down in my quarter. Fortunately we've got the internet technologies :-)

Jonas Stein

10:03 PM

Hi, I want to embed a some source code snippets in a thesis. I like the minted output, but it made my lualatex document unusable slow. And depending on the computer where I work I have still problems to fix (write18 and so on...) Is there a simple pygments alternative which just converts helloworld.py -> helloworld.tex and I include the .tex file?

David Carlisle

@JonasStein you could try listings instead but minted only needs to call pygments once so there isn't really any time cost after the first run.

Jonas Stein

I saw somewhere that Minted needs to rerun, if I delete my aux?

David Carlisle

@JonasStein why would you ever delete the aux? (actually I don't think it uses the aux but it does of course save its data in related files)

Jonas Stein

I like to delete the noise some times after errors, because sometimes TeX does things I do not understand although I have found the missing bracket

OK then I will give it a try

David Carlisle

@JonasStein also minted has an option in its latest release (I forget what it's called but I suggested it) so once it has been called once it doesn't use shell-escape at all and just uses a pre-existing cache.

Jonas Stein

10:29 PM

Thank you

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