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5:33 AM
@DavidCarlisle Europe's style guide seems to use a space, but requires the lack of any full stop ... (publications.europa.eu/code/en/en-4100800en.htm). I.e. "a reference tool for written works for all European Union institutions, bodies and organisations" (publications.europa.eu/code/en/en-000900.htm#contact).
 
7:05 AM
@ChristianHupfer Thanks for the praise.
@CarLaTeX Let's see. If I remember.
 
@TeXnician I won the last one! :):):):)
 
@CarLaTeX I definitely agree, MS PowerPoint is a torture (not only alignment, but also TOCs). But luckily I'm able to work with my own PC all day, so I can use Beamer ;)
@CarLaTeX Shall that be an incentive?
 
@TeXnician Lucky man! I have collegues who don't manage to unzip a zipped file, how can I suggest to use beamer? Hahahahaha!
@TeXnician No, only fun!
 
@CarLaTeX I know those people too, but we have some LaTeX friends around and that's great enough. Okay sometimes I'm so to say "forced" to help them (to produce better results), but partially even they are unable to unzip packages and install them (probably more the second part).
 
@TeXnician I'm not talking about packages, my collegues have problem in unzipping a big Word file sent by e-mail! Hahahaha
 
7:14 AM
@CarLaTeX Okay, those file attachments (zip) are the best friend of my spam filter installation. I didn't have to deal with them for some months now.
 
@TeXnician The problem wasn't that they were sent by e-mail... hahaha
 
@CarLaTeX But unzipping is just double-clicking the file (at least for Windove -- where every sense flies away through the next window).
 
@TeXnician That's exactly the big problem the had, hahaha!
 
@CarLaTeX Probably they should undergo the great "How-to: mouse usage" from Windows 3.1 ;)
 
@TeXnician :):):):):)
 
 
1 hour later…
8:34 AM
Looks like we might have an interface to allow the L3 FPU to be used by TikZ :)
 
9:07 AM
@JosephWright Very nice!
 
9:25 AM
LaTeX2e <2017/01/01> patch level 3
 
> Clint Perry, a biologist who studies the evolution of cognition in insects at Queen Mary University of London, and his colleagues have released the results of a creative new experiment in which they essentially taught bumblebees how to play "bee soccer." "The insects' ability to grasp this novel task is a big score for insect intelligence, demonstrating that they're even more complex thinkers than we thought," reports Smithsonian.
@DavidCarlisle ^^
 
@egreg vvv
$ latex \\stop
This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159265-2.6-1.40.17 (TeX Live 2016) (preloaded format=latex)
 restricted \write18 enabled.
entering extended mode
LaTeX2e <2017/01/01> patch level 4
Babel <3.9r> and hyphenation patterns for 83 language(s) loaded.
No pages of output.
Transcript written on texput.log.
 
@DavidCarlisle Show-off
 
@DavidCarlisle In order to fix the bugs you introduced with PL 3?
 
@egreg no to fix the bugs Frank someone introduced in 1993 :-)
@egreg exact details not fixed but current plan is to make the "quiz" above be an error (declaring an encoding-specific composite without an encoding specific accent command) rather than it just fail randomly (tried some variants that made it work rather than be an error but too many weird edge cases)
 
9:47 AM
@DavidCarlisle, @egreg, Gooddddddddddd morning :-)
 
@DavidCarlisle For the team meeting?
 
@JosephWright Hi. I have not greeted you before because I saw your icon off. Sometimes I do not understand
 
@JosephWright You have to have something to entertain yourselves for hours, that's why David broke something. :) Unless you get a Nintendo Switch... :)
 
@PauloCereda @DavidCarlisle have changhed my question
 
@Sebastiano Cool!
 
9:49 AM
@JosephWright possibly yes.
 
Hallo to everybody
 
@PauloCereda Oh, in my flat I have the Alienware PC (currently Witcher 2): here (I'm away as I gave a talk yesterday) I'm working on TeX things
@DavidCarlisle See suggested agenda
 
@Sebastiano Ciao
 
@JosephWright looks about right
 
@JosephWright Ouch. :) I might get a Switch at some point...
 
9:51 AM
At this moment I have a break to 20 minutes; I should go well in the bathroom. Right now they are in school. I work also on Saturday
 
@DavidCarlisle I thought about style sheets, but that is '...'
 
@egreg :-)))
 
@JosephWright: Have I suggested Bloodborne for you? It has a Dark Souls vibe in it.
 
@JosephWright although wasn't there something Chris wanted on the agenda
 
@PauloCereda I've got Dark Souls but have yet to try them
@DavidCarlisle Just added some more possibles
@DavidCarlisle How did I end up as the Secretary of the LaTeX Project?
 
9:53 AM
@JosephWright 3?
 
@JosephWright I'm sorry if I did not tell you hello when I logged into chat
 
@JosephWright iff yu tipe as we;l as I doo noone acs you to be sectreary
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@PauloCereda All of them
@Sebastiano There's really no need
 
@JosephWright ooh People say DS2 is the easiest. I tend to agree. :)
 
@JosephWright I like honesty and I admit when I'm wrong
 
9:54 AM
@Sebastiano really you should not do it. If everyone acknowledged everyone each time, then the chat is just greetings and even less content than usual.
 
@PauloCereda Need to finish The Witcher 2 and re-play The Witcher 3 first ... also waiting for SkyUI for Skyrim SE
 
@DavidCarlisle ok!!!
 
@JosephWright Awesome. :)
@Joseph: if you need to relax, check "Cat goes fishing".
@DavidCarlisle: got me four papers approved in this year. Not bad for a thesis writing procrastinator. :)
 
10:09 AM
@DavidCarlisle I'd like to answer this post: tex.stackexchange.com/q/355651/101651 using blkarray but I'm not managing to use \mleft[ as delimiter. Could you answer there? :):):)
 
I go, including some ends recreation of students and I will have to administer the written exam in physics
 
10:41 AM
@CarLaTeX There's no use of \mleft for blkarray.
 
@egreg But with the normal [ is not long enough and the clines cross it...
:35674264 See what I've done till now: \documentclass{article}
\usepackage{amsmath}
\renewcommand{\arraystretch}{1.3}
\usepackage{blkarray}
\usepackage{mleftright}

\begin{document}
	\[
	\begin{blockarray}{rrlccccc}
	& & & u & v & w & \rho & T \\
	& & & \downarrow & \downarrow & \downarrow & \downarrow & \downarrow \\
	\begin{block}{rrl[c|c|c|c|c]}
	& \text{Cont.} & \rightarrow &    A_{c,\rho} & A_{c,u_r} & A_{c,u_{\theta}} & A_{c,u_z} & A_{c,T} \\ \cline{4-8}
	& x \text{- mon.} & \rightarrow &    A_{r,\rho} & A_{r,u_r} & A_{r,u_{\theta}} & A_{r,u_z} & A_{r,T} \\ \cline{4-8}
 
10:58 AM
@CarLaTeX Dummy columns. ;-)
@CarLaTeX See answer on line
 
@egreg Great! But still the [ is not long enough, see the OP's image :)
 
@CarLaTeX That's a known problem with blkarray. Fix in a minute.
 
@egreg I have no dubt you can fix it!
 
@CarLaTeX Done. But of course, I would never have such a monster in my documents.
 
@egreg Thank you! Have all that lines a mathematical reason or only and (un)aesthetic one?
 
11:22 AM
@CarLaTeX The rules are unnecessary, of course; the labels to rows and columns are awful.
 
@egreg Indeed!
@egreg As far as I know about Linear Algebra (very little), I've never seen a matrix like that!
 
12:08 PM
@CarLaTeX you can't use \mleft you need to use \left \mleft doesn't make a delimiter atom
@CarLaTeX I've never used blkarray
@egreg by definition there can not be any problems with blkarray only unexpected successes if it manages to make any output.
 
@DavidCarlisle Hahaha, however, egreg has already answered!
 
@CarLaTeX it's probably wrong (unless the answer involves % or \ooalign)
 
@DavidCarlisle Nooooooo, @egreg is always right!
 
@CarLaTeX I've been clearing up the neighbours garden after one of our trees went for a walk in Thursday's storm.
 
@DavidCarlisle Oooooh
 
12:55 PM
@DavidCarlisle Does it damage the fence as well?
 
1:25 PM
@DavidCarlisle Let's say the package “features” a different concept of \delimitershortfall and \delimiterfactor
@DavidCarlisle It didn't succeed in paying a visit in the neighbours' parlor, I hope.
 
 
2 hours later…
3:40 PM
Somewhat anecdotal, but interesting if true: Hating Comic Sans is Ableist.
 
@AlanMunn I don't agree. The article says that Jessica can't read other fonts specifically studied for and by dyslexic people; so hers is a very special case.
 
4:01 PM
@egreg I'm not sure what you're not agreeing with. As I said the story is anecdotal, but there certainly could me more people like her, and furthermore one of the specifically designed fonts was described as "Comic Sans for Grown-ups" which seems to imply that Comic Sans is good for dyslexics more generally.
 
@AlanMunn Maybe, but I don't think that despising Comic Sans for general use is “ableism”.
 
@egreg Well that's just a click-baity headline.
@egreg Here's another view. creativemarket.com/blog/…
 
4:19 PM
@AlanMunn There simply hasn't been a lot of formal studies in this area, so most of the information available is anecdotal: "My brother has dyslexia and he says..."
 
@egreg Right.
 
@AlanMunn Which is exactly what the other article is based on
 
@egreg Yes, and exactly what I said when I posted it.
 
 
2 hours later…
6:05 PM
@DavidCarlisle I see we have another pull request on L3: I guess I might have to write up some notes ...
 
6:32 PM
@DavidCarlisle I'm playing with emacs and I have to say I begin to like it... Probably due to some C-c or C-p (copy and paste habit) now I have, in addition to the window where I'm editing my file, a completely black window (I don't know if this is the correct name in emacs jargon) that I can't close. Do you know how to do it?
 
7:11 PM
@CarLaTeX don't know:-) I don't use the windows emacs so oftem but it has a wrapper "runemacs" that avoids opening an unused terminal window.
 
@DavidCarlisle Perfect, it works!
Thank you!
 
7:53 PM
@barbarabeeton @egreg I've got to go but what the...
\documentclass{article}

\usepackage{amsmath}

\begin{document}

\[
\dot{\tilde{c_{21}}} \dot{\tilde{C}}_{21}
\]
\end{document}
 
8:19 PM
@DavidCarlisle -- what are you questioning? (i was just trying politely to get a mwe.)
 
@DavidCarlisle Team meeting going to be fun
 
@barbarabeeton ignore me:-)
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@DavidCarlisle -- okay. (i was about to say that you need to look more carefully. yes, it's a mess, but that's the same "c".)
 
@barbarabeeton I typed the different c by accident looked at the output and thought why is that bigger, things that occurred to me were leaking subscript style in the accent positioning, not that I'd typed a small and big C into the source:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle -- we do know that your typing is peccable.
 
8:33 PM
@barbarabeeton like my linguistic skills
 
9:06 PM
@egreg Kind can you help me too for my question? Best regards for edit in this morning. I have not seen that was atan(1/x). In fact there is a point of discontinuity in x=0. ciaooooooooo
 
9:40 PM
@Sebastiano Yes, I noticed the wrong curve.
 

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