TeX, LaTeX and Friends

5:54 AM

@MartinSchröder Post an answer with some reasoning that we need the paths: are they required enough to need them? Mods can migrate the 'odd question' to other sites.

Buni

7:31 AM

Good morning! :-)

is there a reason to change over to luatex from pdftex for a simple bachelor-thesis?

Joseph Wright

@Buni Not particularly

@Buni pdfTeX is the standard TeX implementation used for most TeX work today: LuaTeX offers some advantages but for the end user unless you need them there is no need

Buni

Oh okay, thank you for the explanation!

I just read your answer here from 2010 tex.stackexchange.com/a/72/49490

Vaibhav Garg

7:55 AM

I have been trying to update my TexLive 2013 install, which fails with the following error.

tlmgr update --all

Joseph Wright

@VaibhavGarg No more updates for TL2013

Vaibhav Garg

oh

so that seems to be it!

Thanks for the help, even before I finished asking the question!

Joseph Wright

@VaibhavGarg You can get the 'final' updates using the info in tex.stackexchange.com/questions/25089/… (for example if you didn't up date before the freeze)

Vaibhav Garg

I have never updated, so that might help. Ill get back if there are issues. I hope you don't mind my bugging you @jose

@JosephWright, crap, an enter posts the message. Sorry for the truncated name.

Joseph Wright

8:18 AM

@egreg As our math mode guru, can I ask your opinion on github.com/josephwright/siunitx/issues/258? Currently, siunitx uses \, for thin spaces but the standard definition has no stretch (it's a kern). Contrast what happens if a normal piece of maths gets stretched, e.g $2\times4$ .

Joseph Wright

8:38 AM

(Well OK, it's an \mskip in math mode, but \thinmuskip has no stretch but basically everything else does: the other muskips and using e.g. \times does allow some stretch)

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Q: tlmgr stopped working due to outdated repository

tlmgr used to work fine, but now I am getting the following error message for whatever I try to do: tlmgr: The TeX Live versions supported by the repository (20xx--20xx) do not include the version of the local installation (20yy). Any idea on how to resolve that?

texlive

This seems popular: perhaps a case to generalise and reopen?

egreg

9:13 AM

@JosephWright It shouldn't stretch. The number and the unit form a single block; the thin space is just traditional: you wouldn't stretch between 2 and x in $2x$ , would you? What you can do is defining a new muskip register to use instead of \thinmuskip, maybe together with a correspondent skip register for text mode.

Joseph Wright

@egreg As much as anything, I wonder about the consistency of \thinmuskip having no stretch component but the medium and thick ones having stretch: seems odd

Anyway, siunitx-wise I'm mainly struggling with numbers at the moment :-)

egreg

@JosephWright Would you stretch the space between “sin” and “x” in $\sin x$ ? I bet not.

Joseph Wright

@egreg Good point: I saw your comment on the issue report :-)

egreg

@JosephWright I left a comment on Github.

Joseph Wright

@egreg I still need to think about break penalties here

@egreg Indeed

Like I say, the units part of the new code is more or less done so I'm worrying about numbers: it's not so easy deciding on the best approach

Vaibhav Garg

9:21 AM

@JosephWright. This is the error I get: TLDownload::get_file: response error: 500 LWP::Protocol::MyFTP: Bad hostname 'tug.org' (for ftp://tug.org/historic/systems/texlive/2013/tlnet-final/tl
pkg/texlive.tlpdb.xz)
TLUtils::download_file: persistent connection ok, but download failed: ftp://tug.org/historic/systems/texlive/2013/tlnet-final/tlpkg/texlive.tlpdb.xz
TLUtils::download_file: retrying with wget.
TLUtils::download_file: retry with wget failed: ftp://tug.org/historic/systems/texlive/2013/tlnet-final/tlpkg/texlive.tlpdb.xz

This is after issuing: tlmgr option repository ftp://tug.org/historic/systems/texlive/2013/tlnet-final

and tlmgr update --all

Joseph Wright

@VaibhavGarg Network issue, I suspect: the option looks correct

Vaibhav Garg

I am behind a proxy, does that matter?

Joseph Wright

@VaibhavGarg Quite possibly

Vaibhav Garg

@JosephWright Can you please point me to the relevant guidance for specifying proxy in tlmgr?

Will Hunting

10:20 AM

@JosephWright So, my copy of Kopka and Daly's Guide to LaTeX just shipped from amazon!

Paulo Cereda

10:42 AM

Vim people: have you ever tried this? vim.spf13.com I gave it a try on my new laptop. :)

egreg

@PauloCereda I was quite sure to find you in the chat. ;-) Good morning!

Paulo Cereda

@egreg Good morning! :)

egreg

@PauloCereda But are you really dealing with v*m before 8 am?

Paulo Cereda

@egreg Somebody has to do the dirty work, I guess. :)

It could be worse: my dad is nearby, using Word. :P

egreg

11:05 AM

@PauloCereda Also my dad uses it, but in another room!

Paulo Cereda

@egreg :)

egreg

11:22 AM

@PauloCereda Surely neither of us uses v*m

Paulo Cereda

@egreg When I used Slackware, I wasn't fond of graphical interfaces, so my machine was always in init 3; in other words, it was a huge black screen with a tiny gray cursor. One day my dad saw a vim session and got scared. :)

1010011010

I don't fancy a columbreak here. What do I do? :/

David Carlisle

@1010011010 where's "here"

1010011010

@DavidCarlisle Oh, yeah, upon issuing \section.

David Carlisle

@1010011010 you don't really want to have a section head on its own at the bottom of col 2 do you?

1010011010

11:38 AM

@DavidCarlisle I don't want a white space there either.

David Carlisle

@1010011010 write less words in section 1

1010011010

@DavidCarlisle :-)

David Carlisle

@1010011010 or colour it pink

1010011010

Pink it is... sec

David Carlisle

@1010011010 well that one wasn't really a joke, sometimes rewriting to fit is the best option.

\enlargethispage{\baselineskip} ? but if it's a journal submission they may not like that

1010011010

11:42 AM

@DavidCarlisle It's not a journal submission, but I think I'll be playing with fire with that command regardless. I'll rewrite, I guess. :-(

1010011010

11:59 AM

Oh Another thing. I have a graphic here with extension .png. When I place this in a colorbox or similar, I can still see the white background from the graphic. Converting to PDF doesn't seem to get rid of it. What tools are available to get rid of this?

Joseph Wright

@PauloCereda I saw today that MS now have a version of their server OS with no GUI :-)

Paulo Cereda

@1010011010 The "problem" is in your image. Alpha channels need to be explicitly set in the image, so you might need to edit it.

@JosephWright Holy cow! Windows server?!

Paulo Cereda

12:13 PM

@1010011010 Try removing the background layer with GIMP, it might help.

1010011010

@PauloCereda Thanks. I hate to do this in paint and I'm no real graphic artist, so no access to photoshop for me! eheh

Paulo Cereda

@1010011010 If you want, you can post the image here, I can do this for you.

Harald

@666 paint.net is nice middle way

1010011010

I reckon this is peanuts with real image editing software...

Paulo Cereda

@1010011010 Hm I'm afraid there will be loss of quality and precision. :(

As I suspected. Sorry. :(

1010011010

12:19 PM

Damn, you butchered the logo!

Paulo Cereda

@1010011010 As I said, the original is already lossy. Nothing much I could do. :(

Harald

Paulo Cereda

The logo looks fairly simple to be drawn in Inkscape, and you could export either to PNG (with alpha channel) or to PDF.

@Harald A better job indeed. :)

1010011010

@PauloCereda It turned out fine. The change is opticvally barely visible.

Harald

Didn't you say .png?

Paulo Cereda

12:22 PM

@1010011010: Check @Harald's.

Harald

@PauloCereda what did you use, by the way?

Paulo Cereda

@Harald GIMP.

1010011010

@Harald Both images are optically identical, except that Harald's version is cropped more nicely. :-) Thanks to both of you

Paulo Cereda

Yay @Frank is here!

Frank Mittelbach

kind off

still hoping somebody makes my day and provides at least a ConTeXt answer to my question (would be enough for what I'm intending to do for now)

Paulo Cereda

12:38 PM

@FrankMittelbach I think I can't learn too much in a couple of hours. :(

I'm still suffering in the TeXbook. :)

Frank Mittelbach

@PauloCereda but you are of the generation that doesn't need manuals, aren't you?

Paulo Cereda

@FrankMittelbach Experimental people? Nah, I'm the other way arond. :)

Frank Mittelbach

@PauloCereda then prove it :-) get me a working context or whatever file that runs this code

Paulo Cereda

@FrankMittelbach Challenge accepted then. :) Until my lunch time.

Frank Mittelbach

@PauloCereda gets you 100 rep if you are fast enough (or more in case I like it :-)

percusse

12:52 PM

More nonsense is in the pipeline

meta.stackexchange.com/questions/239898/

LaRiFaRi

@DavidCarlisle tex.stackexchange.com/a/202912 How would you go for a counting A1, B2, C3? If someone would ever need this... :-) I was a bit suprised by getting 11, 22, 33 for \begin{enumerate}[A1]

@DavidCarlisle As always, just because I am curious. No actual need...

David Carlisle

@LaRiFaRi you get 11 22 because each of the special letters gets turned into \theenumi and defines that to be (say) \alph{enumi} so fo A1 you get \theenumi\theenumi and define \theenumi to be \alph then \arabic so the latter definition wins but you still get two counters printed

@LaRiFaRi no package needed, just renewcommand\theenumi{\alph{enumi}\arabic{enumi}

LaRiFaRi

@DavidCarlisle ah ok, that makes sense

thank you

David Carlisle

@LaRiFaRi it's very old code, just about the first tex macros i wrote:-)

LaRiFaRi

I will not put it in the answer, as it is maybe to much... If you like, I'd be happy about a coppy-of-the-above-comment below my answer

David Carlisle

1:06 PM

@LaRiFaRi the age one? :-)

LaRiFaRi

@DavidCarlisle hehe, ok. But still widely used.

nono....

David Carlisle

@LaRiFaRi yes sure if it helps

speaking of edits can i accept an edit after it has been rejected by others? tex.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/52215

LaRiFaRi

@DavidCarlisle About the age: just edit some typo in the doc, change the date on the title-page, and nowone will ever notice

@DavidCarlisle Don't think so, but you can still see it and just do a copy.

David Carlisle

@LaRiFaRi I could do but can't be bothered, i thought the new user got a point or two or a badge or something for accepted edits, and if I copy it by hand it doesn't work:-)

@JosephWright ^^

Frank Mittelbach

@LaRiFaRi that would be really odd. So if somebody rejects somehting that I think would actually improve my post I can't overwrite them?

I mean other than by reposting

egreg

1:13 PM

@FrankMittelbach Roll back

David Carlisle

@egreg you can't roll back to a suggested edit can you?

egreg

@DavidCarlisle No, only after the fact.

Frank Mittelbach

@egreg the fact being that somebody else accepted it and you don't like it, right?

but that's the other way around

David Carlisle

@egreg so I don't understand, are you saying I can do something to accept the OPs edit (the edit is only needed because he edited the question, but it was kind of him to edit the answer to match;-)

egreg

@FrankMittelbach If the edit has been accepted, you can roll back; otherwise you have to reject the edit and wait for another reject (or accept) vote.

David Carlisle

1:20 PM

@egreg in this case there have been two reject votes so I can't accept as far as i can see

Frank Mittelbach

well, sounds like a different use case to me

anyway ... need to do some work finding a new internet provider or else not being online some day in the future

LaRiFaRi

1:38 PM

@egreg thanks for your comment

@FrankMittelbach I really believe this is not possible. Really strange indeed

but well, just for 2 points and a hundreth of a badge... it does not worth to make the editor edit it again

suggesting of course, that most rejections do make some sense...

@DavidCarlisle I have seen this edit earlier that day and skipped, as it was too minor for the "edit-an-answer-of-one-of-the-big-users-here" but actually correct.

btw. hasn't there been a "too minor" rejection some time ago? I thought so.

Maybe we should always accept correct edits, even if really minor, even on answers, for the reasons discussed here meta.tex.stackexchange.com/q/4211

David Carlisle

2:02 PM

@LaRiFaRi "David" normally or Dr if you're being formal:-)

LaRiFaRi

@DavidCarlisle hehe, just edit around as you which. Did not know about the doc...:-)

How is your sirname pronounced, btw? Carl-isle?

egreg

@LaRiFaRi You're welcome! Whenever one tries using a package by @DavidCarlisle, it's better to point to a bug^H^H^H feature free replacement.

@LaRiFaRi Omit some consonants at random and pronounce the vowels as you please. Chances are good you guess the right pronunciation.

1010011010

Any bibliography experts here?

LaRiFaRi

2:32 PM

@egreg If I could've, I would've. Featurefree answers is way above my league.

David Carlisle

@LaRiFaRi somewhere between that and car-lisle (there is very little stress on l:-) the isle is pronounced like aisle (of a church) or isle (an island)

Manuel

3:00 PM

Small question, I think I saw once something like \expandafter\foo\expandafter#1\expandafter{\baz. But I have a doubt, shouldn't it be \expandafter#\expandafter1 instead of \expandafter#1? In case the original is wrong, okey, what I saw was wrong. But if it's right… why?

LaRiFaRi

@DavidCarlisle OK. difficult...

Joseph Wright

@Manuel Depends on the context

@Manuel If at point of expansion #1 has been replaced then it will only be a single token and all is well

David Carlisle

@Manuel \expandafter#\expandafter1 would generate an error if used directly in a definition (without expanding it first) as # needs to be followed by a number or #

Manuel

@JosephWright Ah… then I don't remember what was the case. So, in case it hasn't been replaced one needs \@xp#\@xp1, isn't it? In case it has been replaced, \@xp#1 is enough.

Joseph Wright

@Manuel Yes: the business of splitting # and 1 is rarer but does come up

David Carlisle

3:05 PM

@Manuel but \expandafter#1 doesn't necessarily expand the thing after #1 in general; it will expand the second token of whatever is passed as #1

Joseph Wright

@percusse Oh goody

@percusse Don't see the need for this: I guess it's a SO thing

egreg

@DavidCarlisle Unless the first \expandafter is part of a chain starting before \def

Joseph Wright

@egreg That was my rarer case :-)

egreg

@Manuel \expandafter\def\expandafter\foo\expandafter#\expandafter1\expandafter{\baz#1} is an example.

David Carlisle

@egreg yep that's the "(without expanding it first) " comment I made above:-)

Manuel

3:10 PM

@egreg Yep, that's what I meant. @DavidCarlisle Yep, I understood.

I was going crazy but then I understood that \@xp#1\@xp\foo could be inside a command, so #1 is expanded first.

David Carlisle

@Manuel @egreg never pays attention

Manuel

@DavidCarlisle :)

Paulo Cereda

Working on arara, new version in the horizon!

egreg

3:30 PM

@PauloCereda So no new name?

Paulo Cereda

@egreg nightingale still exists, it's a different approach. :) arara will remain the same. :)

Werner

4:21 PM

This is a-coming...

127

Q: New three-tiered badge idea: Keeper -> Archivist -> Curator

The difference between a poor or meh question and a stellar question can often simply be someone understanding it and providing it a great answer. I can't begin to count the number of times I've justified re-opening a question as a moderator by saying: Look at the answer it got, though. This ...

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Joseph Wright

@Werner @percusse warned us!

@Werner Doesn't look like a positive feedback to me in the answers, really

@Werner did you try the queries suggested?

subham soni

4:41 PM

hi

1 doubt

In typography

Leading specifies:

(a) The space between the lines in a paragraph.
(b) The space between the base of a line to the base of the following line in a paragraph.
(c) The space between the top of the X height and the bottom of the X height of the following line in a paragraph
(d) The space between the beard of the top line and the beard of the bottom-line.

which one is correct?

s__C

Hi

subham soni

hi

s__C

Is there a way to create a custom tikz library of shapes created by conversion from inkscape?

And adding the label afterwards in tikz/pgf?

subham soni

well you can create your own package

s__C

well any more hints?

Werner

5:02 PM

@JosephWright Oh, I missed that...!

@JosephWright It does seem mixed.

@JosephWright No, I haven't, but I assume in our culture there will be many awarded.

egreg

5:28 PM

@morbusg Blame the author of bm. ;-) — egreg 11 secs ago

Werner

@JosephWright It doesn't seem to be that bad for TeX - LaTeX: Data Exchange query

egreg

@subhamsoni Traditionally leading [ˈlɛdɪŋ] means the white space between two lines, because typographers inserted lead strips to distance them. Measured from the bottom of a line to the top of the next one.

@Werner I guess the gold would be lockstep

Werner

@egreg ...editor-extraordinaire! We'll see, since the positive interest in the question to me means a go-ahead. They're just sorting out the finer details.

egreg

@Werner I downvoted the proposal.

Werner

@egreg That's what Meta is for! :)

Werner

5:57 PM

@JosephWright: Another odd review, clearly not reviewing...

egreg

@Werner Just look at the button and press it as soon as possible. :(

Werner

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The following is taken from What are the review queues, and how do they work?: The review queues (also known as review tasks) contain posts that possibly need community attention, as determined by the system or other community users. You are shown these posts, one at a time, and you "review" ...

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egreg

@Werner I know.

Joseph Wright

6:27 PM

@egreg Better be

@Werner I'll take a look and perhaps raise with Stefan and Martin

Frank Mittelbach

@PauloCereda late lunch?

Paulo Cereda

@FrankMittelbach Indigestion. :)

Frank Mittelbach

ouch .. too bad

terdon

6:43 PM

Hi all, quick question. I'm using the listings package for including code in my document. It's great but the problem is that LaTeX treats my code blocks as paragraphs so starts the next line indented. How can I tell it not to?

Also, please let me know if you'd rather I post that as a Q, I don't know if it's worth it.

Joseph Wright

7:10 PM

@terdon Well you could add \noindent, but that's normally very unusual in running text

@terdon Could we have a short example?

terdon

Created by:

Create a `directory` where you want to save them, for example, `~/data/uniprot`:

\begin{code}
mkdir ~/data/uniprot
\end{code}

Then run

@JosephWright in the example above, I would like the "Then run" to be aligned on the left. I think \noindent is probably exactly what I'm after.

And yes it is. Sigh. The answer is always so obvious once someone points it out. Thanks @JosephWright

Joseph Wright

@terdon You've got blank lines in your input by the look of things: they start paragraphs

terdon

Yes, they do. I know that. facepalm. Great, even more obvious than I thought. Good thing I didn't post a question. Thanks again :)

Christian Hupfer

Gooed maen ;-)

Oh my ghost

8:01 PM

The competitor of beamer for the web: jqpresentation.slaks.net/Demos/Introducing-jQuery/#8/4

Peter Grill

Anyone know why my vote on tex.stackexchange.com/questions/202979/… ended up closing the question immediately, but the vote on tex.stackexchange.com/questions/201374/… did not? Could others vote to close the latter one so that it no longer shows up in the unanswered questions. Thanks...

Christian Hupfer

@PeterGrill: You have the gold hammer badge for closing ... lucky fellow ;-)

@PeterGrill: Close vote done on the other one

Peter Grill

@ChristianHupfer Perhaps I got that once I crossed 100K rep, but it didn't seem to work on my own question. One would think that an OP to voting to close their own question would not require approval from others. :-)

Christian Hupfer

@PeterGrill: It does not work that way. You have a gold tikz-pgf badge, this enables you to immediately close other questions tagged with tikz-pgf. Your own question was not tagged with this category (And I am not sure if a gold close hammer works on own questions at all)

Peter Grill

@ChristianHupfer Oh I see, it is category based and not rep based. Didn't think of that...

Christian Hupfer

8:15 PM

@PeterGrill: You won't close all tikz-pgf questions right now? That would kill 99 % of all questions here :D

Peter Grill

@ChristianHupfer: Seems as if I have had that badge for about two years now, but never noticed that before. I guess I don't vote to close tikz questions, probably because I know that gives me an advantage over @DavidCarlisle :-). Yep, will have to be careful on tikz-pgf questions from now on. Thanks for the figuring that out for me.

Christian Hupfer

@PeterGrill: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/230865/…, see the explanation in the accepted answer please

percusse

Hey @PeterGrill, long time no see. Finished your app?

Peter Grill

@percusse Nope, still working on it... I have a problem in that I keep expanding the scope -- need to work on that.. Been trying to stay away form TeX.SE so I can get more work done. Pretty much only come here to look something up or when I need to procrastinate. Am doing my annual taxes now so really need a distraction so here I am :-)

percusse

@PeterGrill Haha, I got out of academia so I'm safe to procrastinate. Though not as much as those days that you were competing with David :P

Peter Grill

8:33 PM

@percusse Yeah, I thought I'd let him win. :-). So, where you are now? Weren't you hoping to land a job at a journal?

percusse

@PeterGrill Nope, got into hardcore engineering :) Lithography to be precise

1010011010

Any gods of LaTeX who can tell me how I can adapt this solution to a random environment without a longtable? tex.stackexchange.com/a/97153/44160

Christian Hupfer

@1010011010: A random environment? Do you mean an 'arbitrary' environment?

Peter Grill

@percusse Lithography for printing, or for manufacturing ASICs? :-)

1010011010

@ChristianHupfer You're a physicist! You're not supposed to be pedantic about that word. :-(

percusse

8:39 PM

@PeterGrill We manufacture the machines that makes chips. You know ASML?

Christian Hupfer

@1010011010: It wasn't pedantic, I just did not understand the question :-P

1010011010

@ChristianHupfer Controversial. Your assumption was right though.

David Carlisle

@1010011010 doesn't need longtable at all does it?

Peter Grill

@percusse Oh. I did some work a LONG time ago on that kind of stuff... Dont know AMSL but I assume it is similar to Applied Materials.

Christian Hupfer

@1010011010: I am quite happy about this ;-)

1010011010

8:41 PM

@DavidCarlisle Nope, in fact, I just want to define some arbitrary environment a bit like this:

percusse

@1010011010 Don't do it. Footnotes are named like that for a reason. They are already ugly, you are trying to put lipstick on them.

1010011010

\begin{title}

\title{stuff}

\author{John Doe\footnote{Jo@hn.doe}}

\end{title}

percusse

@PeterGrill Yes more or less.

1010011010

@percusse At least let me try. You can tell me how disgusting you find it in the final product. :-(

Christian Hupfer

@1010011010: And @percusse will do :-P

percusse

8:44 PM

@1010011010 Have a look at these

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Q: How to create "local" footnotes in block quotes?

I have a block quote, which contains a footnote - but I don't want to put that at the end of the page, but rather at the end of the quote. Like so: Does footnote command allow this kind of customization? If not - where should I look? Much appreciated!

footnotes quoting

David Carlisle

:17838154 Don't use footnotes in your books, Don.
\author JILL ^{KNUTH} (1962)

Joseph Wright

@Werner Action has been taken

percusse

Pure beauty

1010011010

@percusse This is definitely what I'm looking for, but I find the answer particularly confusing.

The answer you're referring to has a piece of code and an image below it. Neither pieces of code produce the image.

Christian Hupfer

Have nice time, I am off for now ;-)

1010011010

8:49 PM

@ChristianHupfer See ya

@percusse Got it to work and I've left a comment. Thanks.

@percusse I stand corrected. You were right about the footnotes and how they're particularly hideous when used locally.

Werner

@JosephWright Thanks.

1010011010

Next up... footnote rules... who wants to go first? hahahaha

Werner

Anybody feels this question could be closed as "too localized" / off-topic due to a typo? Missing closing brace } in the definition of \newEnum:

2

Q: Defining New Environments using a Command

I would be able to do something like the following: Instead of having the following, where I repeat the same code many many times: \documentclass{article} \usepackage{enumerate} \newenvironment{enum1}{\begin{enumerate}[1.]}{\end{enumerate}} \newenvironment{enuma}{\begin{enumerate}[a.]}{\end{enu...

macros environments

percusse

@1010011010 Many typographic stuff is from an era where page was expensive :)

1010011010

@percusse Don't you think most of the hideousness stems from the width and size of the footnoterule? Be honest!!

Frank Mittelbach

9:04 PM

@PauloCereda looks like stomach issues don't get you out of it ... bounty seems to got extended :-)

percusse

@1010011010 Most of the ugliness is due to the fact that I have to move my eyes for no proper reason.

In particular, I first see the footnote and go Damn, where does this come from?

Joseph Wright

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As of today, "Autobiographer" will be awarded to anyone fills out the free-form "About Me" field on their profile. We will be awarding it retroactively, so you don't need to do anything if you already filled out your "About Me" to receive it. (But be patient, we're awarding them in batches for ...

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1010011010

@percusse The alternative is even worse: I have to mention my contact address somewhere on the page and it's sure as hell not going next to the prettiness that is the title and/or my name. :-(

Joseph Wright

Lots of badges upcoming, I guess

percusse

@1010011010 Nobody cares about your contact address :)

You would be lucky if they ever get interested in your affiliation

egreg

9:07 PM

@Werner Peter's answer is quite good

1010011010

@percusse How else do people know where to throw a brick into the window if they disagree with me?

Joseph Wright

The new badge business is weighted against lockstep :-(

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A: New three-tiered badge idea: Keeper -> Archivist -> Curator

A few quick notes, since there's some good discussion buried in comments here: The primary goal here is to reward folks for doing something that benefits themselves as well as others, but which isn't immediately obvious. Think of any question you answer as being effectively the introduction to ...

1010011010

And admittedly I'm just trying to meet my quotum, but that's besides the point.

percusse

@1010011010 They will google you.

Internet has you

Joseph Wright

@1010011010 That's asking to be starred :-)

percusse

9:09 PM

@JosephWright I think powers are really trying to sabotage their own enterprise.

Joseph Wright

@percusse I think you've got to bear in mind the network as a whole, and that means the trilogy sites in particular

David Carlisle

@JosephWright do badges really alter behaviour?

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle Possibly, but not necessarily positively :-)

@DavidCarlisle I can only speak for myself: I can't see much motivation in this 'new idea'

percusse

@JosephWright Why don't they think about the network as a whole for a change? :)

Joseph Wright

@percusse Money

percusse

9:12 PM

@JosephWright Touche, Point taken

Joseph Wright

@percusse Also a lot of the smaller sites do take much the same line as SO on closure, etc.

@percusse Didn't get very far when I raised the review business in the mod chat room: no-one else sees it being an issue to close then edit (although the new suggested badges are actually about avoiding that, in part)

1010011010

Are we talking about rules or guidelines here?

percusse

@JosephWright It's moving towards Yahoo Answers with great pace to be honest.

Joseph Wright

@percusse I'm not sure I see that

Werner

@JosephWright I agree.

percusse

9:17 PM

@JosephWright Yeah, I don't know how to express concisely. Only a hunch but I think the business model is changing.

Stefan Kottwitz

9:36 PM

@Werner What about a hall of fame of such reviews on meta? If this is visible for the public, it could be collected for education. (Or should we hide it?)

1010011010

Well, thanks everybody. @percusse I got rid of the footnote for you. hehe

Good night.

percusse

@1010011010 On behalf of all your readers Thank you :)

AmagicalFishy

10:23 PM

This might be a stupid question, but how in the name of Zeus do I print out something like "20cm" in LaTeX?

It's taking it as a command or argument or something, so not printing the value out

egreg

@AmagicalFishy What are you trying?

AmagicalFishy

@egreg Just something like "The object is 20cm long."

egreg

@AmagicalFishy \usepackage{siunitx} and in the document \SI{20}{cm} will print it beautifully.

AmagicalFishy

@egreg Is there, by chance, some escape character or something I can use? (This way I can avoid using a package :v)

egreg

@AmagicalFishy Well, for limited usages, $20\,\mathrm{cm}$ would be the correct way.

AmagicalFishy

10:27 PM

@egreg Ah! Excellent. Thanks very much :)

egreg

If you're sure the text will end up in the normal font, just the object is 20\,cm long (but I don't recommend it).

AmagicalFishy

I think I'll go w/ your original suggestion (the siunitx package); I just wouldn't have been satisfied if I didn't also know of a way to just print it out regularly

Werner

10:44 PM

@StefanKottwitz I don't think I understand... wouldn't this "out" people? That is, point fingers at people rather than at the problem?

Of course, not everyone will be able to see it - only those with the privilege to view that particular review queue.... or perhaps you had something altogether different in mind.

Alexander Gruber

11:54 PM

is there a way to not save the log, aux, synctex.gz files? (or have them hidden by default maybe?) it really clutters up the folders and makes it hard to find stuff. (i use texmaker.)

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