@StefanKottwitz There's something wrong with texwelt.de/blog, some database error

hello

quick question to the floor:

\resizebox{0.85\textwidth}{!}{123 456 789 (AB)\enskip·\enskip Ph Vyoming, Del Baja\enskip·\enskip major.minor@bass.com

currently this line produces a satisfactory overall width (0.85\textwidth)

but entails too large characters for my liking

any half-way elegant way of making \enskip be of variable width, leaving the text fragments constant in size?

e.g.,

123 456 789 (AB) · Ph Vyoming, Del Baja · major.minor@bass.com

well, SX-chat truncated the redundant spaces...

of course, one way of doing this would be to manually (!) put in additional \enskips (or equivalents thereof)

in short, the text snippets (like "Ph Vyoming, Del Baja") should not change in size,

only the spaces between should adapt (and spread evenly) automatically

:-)

I guess I'll fiddle around with \enskip, \quad, \qquad

@nuttyaboutnatty sounds like you don't want to use resizebox but instead \makebox[.85\textwidth][s]{ text here} and use stretchy spaces, not \enskip

anybody home????

@subhamsoni Hi

Hi @JosephWright

Have a problem with the tex distribution

So

What I did was

I downloaded

ProTeXt

It installed MikTeXt full version

still I get the same error

Whats the issue??

@subhamsoni tl2013 is only frozen in the sense that the repository won't be updated anymore at source, it doesn't mean that you can not update your local files from a tl2013 repository

> tcolorbox.sty 2013/05/15 version 2.22 text color boxes

@DavidCarlisle @subhamsoni Also, the update you need is much earlier than the freeze date

@subhamsoni I'd guess a dodgy 'local' copy of tcolorbox

@subhamsoni Look through your .log file for the line containing tcolorbox and check the file location

I have

tcolorbox.sty    2014/03/31 version 2.80 text color boxes

with an up-to-date (frozen) TL2013

you mean \listfiles???

@subhamsoni no the log file will have (/path/to/somewhere/tcolorbox.sty at the point the file is loaded

The log file says

Package: tcolorbox 2013/05/15 version 2.22 text color boxes

@subhamsoni Before that!

("C:\Program Files\MiKTeX 2.9\tex\latex\tcolorbox\tcolorbox.sty"

@subhamsoni OK, in that case run the MiKTeX update wizard (in 'Admin' mode if you have it)

@subhamsoni so you are using miktex not texlive

I installed ProTeXt

which internally installed MikTeX

@subhamsoni Wrapper for MiKTeX

@subhamsoni Like I say, run the update wizard

sure. I am on winedt

could you please help me with that

@subhamsoni WinEdt nothing to do with it

@subhamsoni docs.miktex.org/manual/updating.html

@subhamsoni yes if you still had tl2013 you could have updated tlcolorbox using tlmgr even though it warns you that tl2013 is frozen

yup got it :)

I did that

it says frozen

and stops

and I downloaded

the ctan zip

and copied

to TeX folder

file

and ran

texhash

no updates yet

:(

@subhamsoni you only need tcolorbox.sty which is 5k of ascii text, downloading an entire distribution seems excessive (even if it works:-)

thats true :)

@David

I updated

tcolorbox

but still same error

:(

I still get the same thing

@subhamsoni Did you run the update process in Admin mode?

Yup

I updated tcolorbox

Now I am updating all the packages

Now there's a new modality for the questions; first thing potential answeres have to do is to figure out the question: tex.stackexchange.com/q/175878/3954.

@subhamsoni Is your system perhaps using a local version of the package previously installed elsewhere? What do you get when you run kpsewhich tcolorbox.sty in a terminal?

Is is possible to configure TeX to execute a \tracingall on a document, but without explicitly using the command in the document?

@GonzaloMedina tex \tracingall \input file ?

@cgnieder Thank you, I fixed it!

anyone else got tl2014? could you try the MWE in tex.stackexchange.com/questions/175883/…

@JosephWright ^^

@DavidCarlisle ! LaTeX Error: File pnastwo.cls' not found.`

@hugovdberg ah not that I think I got it locally for some previous answer sorry didn't notice that, I was more hoping Joseph would comment on

LaTeX Warning: You have requested, on input line 49, version
               `2014/05/05' of package expl3,
               but only version
               `2014/01/07 v4646 L3 programming layer (loader) '
               is available.

@DavidCarlisle I get the same with 2013 and 2014; and no problem with version numbers.

@egreg well dinner's on the table so I don't care, back in a bit:-)

@DavidCarlisle I'm still on the train, so my dinner will be in half an hour.

@egreg unless your train gets held up and is an hour late:-)

@egreg I don't get the error when I change it to article class and remove the article environment..

@DavidCarlisle updated tl2014 just half an hour ago by the way

@DavidCarlisle Thanks for the kindness. ;-) As soon as your line appeared, the train started to brake.

@DavidCarlisle I wasn't clear enough. I meant whether it's possible to somehow (changing some TeX internals) make that just invoking tex file will always do \tracingall behind the scenes.

This one tex.stackexchange.com/q/175877/3954 (the recurrent \label before \caption problem) surely is a duplicate, but I can't find an appropriate question to close it.

Yeah, my very first TUGBoat came with the mail today.

@GonzaloMedina linux/mac or windows? linux you could try a batch script that inserts the \tracingall just before the last argument, don't know if that's possible on windows

@Johannes_B nice :)

@DavidCarlisle Are you using a 'locally installed' version from the SVN? That's the only way you can get that combination of date and description

@hugovdberg That's certainly an option in Linux, but I'd like a form of doing it not dependent on the OS used.

Is TeXLive 2013 frozen?

@GonzaloMedina lol, just noticed I called a shell script on linux a batch script which is what you'd call it on windows, but anyway, OS independent is more difficult indeed

@IamwhoIsayIam Yes, it is.

@GonzaloMedina Oh my ghost, that is why I cannot update since April.

@IamwhoIsayIam preining.info/blog/2014/04/…

@GonzaloMedina OK. Thanks for responding.

@IamwhoIsayIam Did my answer earn me one of your juicy bounties? (I am, of course, just kidding).

@GonzaloMedina Yes of course there is a bounty for the constant length car question.

@IamwhoIsayIam I suspect Herbert has won it with his answer.

@GonzaloMedina Yes. :-)

@JosephWright well yes and no: it turns out when I ran make check in l3 svn directory yesterday it generated /home/davidc/texmf/tex/latex/l3kernel which is on my "normal" texinputs so got pulled in to that MWE. Where was it supposed to put the generated files?

@GonzaloMedina well yes that's easy add \tracingalll to the end of latex.ltx and then rebuild the format

@DavidCarlisle Can a malicious user remotely rebuild formats on somebody else's machines?

@GonzaloMedina why? you think we should add \tracingall to any tikz user's format so they realise what they are doing?

@GonzaloMedina If only you knew someone with access to the format sources on ctan, such a change could propagate from there to texlive then tlmgr could indeed install it on other people's machines. if only you knew such a person...

@DavidCarlisle Hehe! Something like that...

@DavidCarlisle If only...

@DavidCarlisle No, I was wondering how vulnerable a LaTeX system could be ( and I thought about an innocent joke such as adding a \tracingall).

@GonzaloMedina Herbert's solution is not exactly correct because he just kept the curve length constant rather than the length of the car.

@GonzaloMedina probably easier to alias the command than change the format.

@DavidCarlisle Should be generated files in TEXMFHOME if found

@DavidCarlisle 'Top level' check does make localinstall, individual ones do not

@JosephWright you could have warned me while I was chatting here yesterday and I said I'd try typing make check:-)

@DavidCarlisle Should install everything, so the warning is odd

@JosephWright I'll check now I have bit more time where it pulled the file from

@DavidCarlisle OK

:15395204

(/usr/local/texlive/2014/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3packages/l3keys2e/l3keys2e.sty
(/home/davidc/texmf/tex/latex/l3kernel/expl3.sty

@JosephWright ^^ I only have l3kernel in /home/davidc/texmf/tex/latex/

@DavidCarlisle Ah, that would do it

@JosephWright so moral of story: set TEXMFHOME to some scratch directory before running the makefiles@-)

@DavidCarlisle plz elaborate (briefly) re "stretchy spaces": which commands etc are we talking about here?

@DavidCarlisle I'm actually fiddling around with the 'Lua plan' at the moment, which touches on some of this

@DavidCarlisle (a quick search returns a wealth of stretchy latex on offer...)

@nuttyaboutnatty \hspace{3pt plus 2pt} or just a space ` `

@nuttyaboutnatty yeh Paulo shocked Stefan's grandma with some of those images

@PauloCereda Up for doing some review on my ropey Lua code?

@JosephWright Sure! :)

@PauloCereda review some of my TeX code?

@DavidCarlisle Oh.

\futurelet\futurelet\futurelet\futurelet\let\futurelet\futurelet

@PauloCereda ^^

@DavidCarlisle What does it do? :)

@PauloCereda That's what the reviewer is supposed to find out

@DavidCarlisle oopsie.

@DavidCarlisle :-)

@DavidCarlisle: I surely can parse TeX with regex.

@DavidCarlisle sounds like a stockbroker reviewing his portfolio :P

lol: meta.stackexchange.com/a/99069 Nobody upvote!

Hi @Paulo! we'll be getting a few juvenile ducks in July :)

@hftf Locked: we can't

@JosephWright I know ;)

@PauloCereda \futurelet<token1><token2><token3> does \let<token1>=\token3> leaving <token3> in the input stream and then removes \futurelet<token1>. So TeX does \let\futurelet=\futurelet and what remains is \futurelet\futurelet\let\futurelet\futurelet Now TeX does \let\futurelet\futurelet and we remain with \let\futurelet\futurelet. :)

@egreg Might have known you'd come in with a spoiler:-)

Procrastinating code. :)

@egreg but extremely bug free

@hftf my personal favorite is meta.stackexchange.com/a/99067 :P just close it immediately :P

@hugovdberg 157 downvotes!

@egreg the modelling software I use at my internship does something like that, if you decide you want to save the results it takes somewhere between a few milliseconds and 10 minutes to actually do so, for equal amounts of data :P although I'm suspecting the MATLAB compiler runtime installation is flawed on my computer there, as more software using the MCR seems to have bugs which would be immediately visible to any programmer :P

@egreg lol, that link is supposed to point to the second answer :P

@egreg but a nice score, I think that's the most downvotes I've ever seen on stackexchange :P

@hugovdberg oooh!

@egreg Oh my! :)

@JosephWright: mail for me? :)

@PauloCereda Sent

@egreg don't be silly, when I read the TeX book \language wasn't in it:-)

@DavidCarlisle I bought (and read) also the later edition. :P

@egreg I bought it but I never read it quite the same way as the original:-) I suppose I should change that to something that works better (although it did work on the MWE:-)

@DavidCarlisle Maybe it's a LuaTeX feature.

@egreg suppose I'd better look at the luatex manual

@DavidCarlisle It seems to be an undocumented feature of LuaTeX.

@egreg yes I just read every instance of \language in the doc. Undocumented features. disgraceful.

@DavidCarlisle I also looked for every instance of language, same result.

Does anybody remember the name of a package allowing decorations (shadows, fillings) for text? I seem to remember it's from the pst family of packages (no, it's not pst-text), but I cannot remember the exact name.

@JosephWright Got it, I'll take a look. :)

I just spend 30 minutes watching part of lecture, graduate level, top university in the US, where the instructor was showing students how to use WORD and equation editor to type equations and how to change the fonts and resize it, and the instructor insisting that students write all the reports in WORD. I could not believe it. What a waste. They never heard of Latex?? I was thinking of taking this course, but now no way I will consider it.