Vedanta and Philosophy

4:10 AM

@TheDestroyer @Tezz Today Sri M will be launching the sequel of "Apprenticed to a Himalayan Master" but the book is already available on Amazon: amazon.in/Journey-Continues-Apprenticed-Hiamalayan-Himalayan/dp/…

The Destroyer

@ChinmaySarupria ohh..

This time i will buy his book. Haha.

Tezz

@ChinmaySarupria Oh I wish that he writes that book 'My past 7 lives."

@KeshavSrinivasan haha... your questions are being more and more advanced...

Keshav Srinivasan

4:27 AM

@Tezz Haha, I've always posted advanced questions:

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Q: What is the Nyaya argument for Karma being the instrumental cause of the Universe?

The Agama Pramanya is a work by the famous Sri Vaishnava Acharya Yamunacharya arguing that the Pancharatra texts, which are foundational to mainstream Vaishnavism as I discuss here, are legitimate Hindu scriptures. (He also composed another work on a related subject which I discuss here.) In th...

Tezz

@KeshavSrinivasan oh... really?😀😀

Can I answer that question as "Yes, I also think that Chandogya... " @KeshavSrinivasan

Keshav Srinivasan

@Tezz Haha

@Tezz I meant anyone prominent, like some big time Vedantic commentator on the Upanishads, not Swami Tejananda :-)

@Tezz By the way, do you actually think that that verse refers to Siddhis?

@Tezz I'm surprised that Kumarila Bhatta even believed in Siddhis, considering that Mimamsakas were so reluctant to believe in anything supernatural.

Tezz

4:45 AM

@KeshavSrinivasan haha lol....

@KeshavSrinivasan I think the thing is liberated person possess Siddhis....

Krishn Shweta

5:56 AM

@TheDestroyer very complicated to handle :P

SwiftPushkar

6:29 AM

BholeNath- One who stays away from cultural world). see the first question

Bholenath

Bholenath (or Bolenath, Bhole Nath) (Sanskrit: भोलेनाथ, Bhōlēnātha) - one of names of Hindu god Shiva. Translation of this name is a Lord (nātha) of simplicity and simple people (bhōlē). Bholenath: The word ‘Bhola’(Hindi) means –naïve, simple minded, gullible and one who believes others words without any question. Lord Shiva is called ‘Bholenath’ because he believes the words of his devotees immediately and grants their wishes without any second thought. He can be pleased simply by pouring a glass of water or placing two Bilva leaves on his head. This innocent nature of Lord Shiva has been taken...

The Destroyer

@KrishnShweta :P Indeed his answers are difficult as they involve many subjects besides Hinduism.

SwiftPushkar

@TheDestroyer - which questions ?

The Destroyer

@SwiftPushkar Iammilind deleted answers.

SwiftPushkar

@TheDestroyer - oh ok :)

Krishn Shweta

6:59 AM

@TheDestroyer Actually I don't know what was there in his answer. But I think you explained it well :)

The Destroyer

@KrishnShweta He follows SO rules as he is active member on that forum. But here rules are bit different.

Krishn Shweta

@RakeshJoshi Pranam!

@TheDestroyer Oh!!

Sree Charan

7:53 AM

@SwiftPushkar What is a misbelief then? Twitching of eye? Bathing after sunset, going to temples with loose hair? THese all were tagged superstition.

SwiftPushkar

8:09 AM

@SreeCharan- I think we can't say that Twitching of eye is misbelief as its descried in various scriptures lot of times. but not sure abt. tons other things. If we find mentioning any those in scriptures then we can say that its a proper belief . and Rest are misbeliefs.IMO :)

The Destroyer

9:03 AM

When I first saw this question I thought it was asking when did Sai get added to Hinduism.SE :-) — Keshav Srinivasan ♦ 5 hours ago

@KeshavSrinivasan Lol. This is the best comment i have seen today.

Sree Charan

Did anyone understand this question?

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Q: Kalki -- Birth or Destruction

It is easy to understand why Lord Vishnu, descended on Earth taking avatars. To finish evil. But why is it necessary for him to descend on earth? if he comes to earth to save us, that means he Is the cause for destruction also. Because he will descend on earth upon his free will? Why can't he f...

mythology vishnu puranas avatars kalki

Why does Vishnu descend to earth to destroy evil? Why can't we ?Am I right? @SwiftPushkar @TheDestroyer

The Destroyer

@SreeCharan He meant "why can't Vishnu destroy earth at one time instead of killing only evil people in every avatar? Is He coming to earth only to show his powers (by killing evil people whenever he takes avatar)? "

Sree Charan

He added ego in the question o-O

And lust for the mohini avatar in the answer.

The Destroyer

@SreeCharan He thought Vishnu was trying to prove his power and (has)ego.

as he is coming every time.

@SreeCharan I think he is newbie to Hinduism. I think he doesn't know Vishnu is beyond three Gunas.

Sree Charan

9:21 AM

@TheDestroyer He is following Devdutt Patnaik... it is obvious.

The Destroyer

@SreeCharan haha. They (wendy doniger and Devdutt) are kaali demon Shishyas reincarnations.

SwiftPushkar

@TheDestroyer @SreeCharan - haha , its like he is challenging , 😀 but the somewhat possible explanation is given in SB , and IMO Lord himself has to appear on earth / take avatara simply because the tasks that he accompalishs are beyond human domain , i.e.superhuman force is required as in case of kalki avatara , lord himself has to punish demon kali , its not possible for us to do that 😊

The Destroyer

@SwiftPushkar As per Bhavishya Purana, Lord Vishnu gave boons to Kali Demon. It's his leela. With limited intellect we can't understand his sports.

Sree Charan

@SwiftPushkar Yay \O/ Pushkar is back with his tab.

SwiftPushkar

and nothing has to do with ego of lord , as said by @TheDestroyer lord vishnu / Shiva / Devi ate beyond tri-gunas 👍👏👏

The Destroyer

9:28 AM

@SreeCharan Smileys??

Lol.

Sree Charan

> Tell me a answer to prove me wrong.

The Destroyer

@SreeCharan where?

SwiftPushkar

@SreeCharan - haha , 😀👍👍 yes , power saving mode 📱🔋

Sree Charan

18 mins ago, by Sree Charan

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Q: Kalki -- Birth or Destruction

It is easy to understand why Lord Vishnu, descended on Earth taking avatars. To finish evil. But why is it necessary for him to descend on earth? if he comes to earth to save us, that means he Is the cause for destruction also. Because he will descend on earth upon his free will? Why can't he f...

mythology vishnu puranas avatars kalki

The Destroyer

@SreeCharan didn't get you.

SwiftPushkar

9:31 AM

And lord vishnu /shiva /devi are not bound to their actions i.e. they are not affected by their actions as they are beyond tri-gunas

Sree Charan

@TheDestroyer In that question.

The Destroyer

@SreeCharan ok.

I think i can answer that question. But need to search some verses from Bhagavatam.

SwiftPushkar

@TheDestroyer - yes i also written a partial answer , will share with you😊 Add yada yada hi dharmasya shloka , that explains half of question.BG 4.7 & 4.8. Also state that the tasks he accompalishs are beyond human domain , i.e. lifting up the earth from ocean , killing demon's , compiling of scriptures (vyasa ) etc.👍

The Destroyer

@SwiftPushkar i think we should explain him why Vishnu won't destroy earth after his every avatar. When whole world is filled with tamas, Rudra destroys the earth and new kalpa begins after pralaya.

@SwiftPushkar your room is frozen. 😐☹

SwiftPushkar

@TheDestroyer - yes correct , he doesn't destroy everything or everybody but only evil once and he does this to establish dharma 👍👍

@TheDestroyer - yes , pls unlock it , i will add 2-3 shloks today , i forgot to add something in 15 days ,& laziness 😀🔓

The Destroyer

9:45 AM

@SwiftPushkar yeah. unfrozen it.

SwiftPushkar

@TheDestroyer - also this is useful & similar to BG 4.7 - vedabase.com/en/sb/12/2/17

@TheDestroyer - ok 😊👍👍💐👏👏

SwiftPushkar

11:02 AM

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Q: Does the concept of Evil Spirits occur in Hinduism?

Some of the western religions have evil spirits like devils and demons. Does the concept or belief in evil spirits occur in Hinduism?

evil

😀😀 Check out my findings of evil spirit's answer 😈👿👹👺💀☠👻👽

Keshav Srinivasan

1:18 PM

@Tezz Yeah, the Brahma Sutras say that liberated souls possess all powers that Brahman possesses except the powers of creation, preservation, and destruction.

@Tezz But what is there in that Chandogya Upanishad verse that even hints at Siddhis?

Tezz

@KeshavSrinivasan but there is no limit to power of creation protection and destruction.... every power will fall in the above category....

@KeshavSrinivasan Chan. Up. Says 'Obtaining all desires.' Which itself is Siddhi....

Keshav Srinivasan

@Tezz What do you mean? Do you mean all powers fall in the category of creation, preservation, and destruction?

@Tezz Yeah, I suppose that is Prakamya Siddhi or something.

@Tezz But Kumarila Bhatta thinks all eight Siddhis are being referred to.

Tezz

@KeshavSrinivasan yes, on the broad category every power will fall in that...

@KeshavSrinivasan if you have power to get what you want... then if you want all 8 Siddhis then you can get .. because you desire it... this means that means it's for all Siddhis also...

Keshav Srinivasan

@Tezz How do the eight Siddhis fall under creation, preservation, and destruction? Like you can teleport from one place to another without being involved in creating the world, preserving the world, or destroying the world.

@Tezz Haha yeah, you can just wish for all Siddhis.

@Tezz By the way, Adi Shankaracharya discusses the fact that liberated souls don't possess the powers of creation, preservation, and destruction here: sacred-texts.com/hin/sbe38/sbe38333.htm

@Tezz But for some reason Thenkalai Sri Vaishnavas disagree with it, as I discuss here:

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Q: Do Thenkalai Sri Vaishnavas believe that liberated souls have powers of creation?

The members of the Sri Vaishnava sect of Hinduism, especially the Iyengars (Sri Vaishnavas who are Brahmanas), are divided into two sub-sects, Thenkalais and Vadakalais. These sub-sects both agree on the Visishtadvaita philosophy of Ramanujacharya that characterizes the Sri Vaishnava belief syste...

moksha vaishnavism sri-vaishnava vadakalai thenkalai

Tezz

1:45 PM

@KeshavSrinivasan while teleporting you create a new body... now if you say you teleport with same body through magic... then you preserved your body... thus creation and preservation come here...

@KeshavSrinivasan actually is there limit to what extent one can create, one can preserve or one can destroy?...

Keshav Srinivasan

2:06 PM

@Tezz What the Brahma Sutras say is that liberated souls have all powers except for the world energies. A Mukta cannot decide "I want a Pralaya to happen right now" or "I want a Kalpa to start right now" or "I don't want a Pralaya to happen now, I want the Universe preserved."

@Tezz Only Brahman can decide those things.

Tezz

2:25 PM

@KeshavSrinivasan It's like saying God has all powers except the power of creating souls and destroying souls etc .. ..

The Destroyer

2:47 PM

@KeshavSrinivasan @Tezz Yes. In Autobiography of a Yogi, a Yogi with Siddhi was caught as he was giving refrigerators to his devotees. Later police arrested him as he was stealing them with siddhis from New Delhi.

Tezz

@TheDestroyer how was he giving refrigerators... ?...

Keshav Srinivasan

@TheDestroyer I'm generally skeptical of claims of people having magical powers in the Kali Yuga.

The Destroyer

@Tezz By Teleportation.

@KeshavSrinivasan No. There are still very few people. But 99% of people are charlatans.

Tezz

@TheDestroyer ohh... who is he?..

The Destroyer

@Tezz Wait i will give you screenshots from book. Actually i don't remember book. It could be living with Himalayan masters or Autobiography of a yogi.

Keshav Srinivasan

2:53 PM

@Tezz By the way, I just found a Hatha Yoga text, Adinatha's Khecharividya, which talks about methods for living for 100 thousand years:

The Destroyer

ok. 100 thousand.. = 1 lakh.

Keshav Srinivasan

@TheDestroyer Yeah

Tezz

@KeshavSrinivasan yeah I already knew that mastering Khechari Mudra gives Kaya Siddhi...

Keshav Srinivasan

@Tezz What is Kaya Siddhi?

Tezz

@KeshavSrinivasan Kaya means body... Kaya Siddhi means getting perfection over ones body... ie. Making body indestructible by ages, disesases etc....

Keshav Srinivasan

2:58 PM

@Tezz Oh ok

The Destroyer

@Tezz But i read Sthoola Sarira can't live more than 150 years. Is that true?

Tezz

@TheDestroyer I don't think it's true... where did you read that.. ?..

The Destroyer

@Tezz Don't know. Some blog.

SwiftPushkar

3:13 PM

@TheDestroyer - have u prepared the answer 😊📃

The Destroyer

@SwiftPushkar No bro:) i was sleeping.

Tezz

@SwiftPushkar @TheDestroyer which question?...

SwiftPushkar

@TheDestroyer - 😀 ok there is one answer , I thought it's you , anyway ,I will try to give it , will search @night 👍👍

@Tezz - Kalki avatara question

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Q: Kalki -- Birth or Destruction

It is easy to understand why Lord Vishnu, descended on Earth taking avatars. To finish evil. But why is it necessary for him to descend on earth? If he comes to earth to save us, that means he is the cause for destruction also. Because he will descend on earth upon his free will? Why can't he fi...

vishnu puranas avatars kalki

Tezz

@SwiftPushkar Oh ok...

SwiftPushkar

3:28 PM

2-3 new question's are intresting - question by @RakeshJoshi , (rule of sanyasi's) , marriage question etc.i

@Tezz - 👍👍

Keshav Srinivasan

3:48 PM

@Tezz I just posted an answer to my wrinkles and gray hair question:

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A: What scriptures describe medicines to remove wrinkles and grey hair?

I found the answer in this excerpt from Adinatha's Khechari Vidya, an early Hatha Yoga text dated to the 15th century: [The yogin] should use equal amounts of the pollen of nirgundi, amala and mundi, anointed with sugar, ghee and honey; after a year he destroys grey hair and wrinkles. Nir...

Sree Charan

@KeshavSrinivasan What is &c in your question?

"He obtains all worlds and all desires, passes beyond all sorrow, &c, &c."

SwiftPushkar

@SreeCharan - yes , i also have seen that lot of times in various articles , but don't know wht. that mean mr. keshav will explain in some time ...wait ...but he left the room ...

Sree Charan

@SwiftPushkar Another sir came. Law of Conservation of moderators in the room! 😀😁

SwiftPushkar

4:03 PM

@SreeCharan - haha..... haha , but both are diff. jivas .

The Destroyer

@SreeCharan etc.

SwiftPushkar

I think @KeshavSrinivasan should take patent of his discovered Khechari Vidya medicine. Its a grt. discovery , and a key to became a millionaire :) Good find + 1 for that

Keshav Srinivasan

4:22 PM

@SwiftPushkar Haha

@SreeCharan "&c" is the old-fashioned way of writing "et cetera". Nowadays we use "etc." instead.

SwiftPushkar

ok , good night guys , will sleep now , Bye , TC , - Good afternoon and very prosperous day ahead to @KeshavSrinivasan.

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