@SreeCharan Namaskaram, I had used it in joking sense. It's from Chhandogya Upanishad.
@SreeCharan Have you read Chhandogya Upanishad?
@SreeCharan Refer Chhandogya Upanisha 6.1
> VI-i-1: Om. Once upon a time there was one Svetaketu, the grandson of Aruna. His father said to him, 'O Svetaketu, live the life of a Brahmacharin. Dear boy, there never is anyone in our family who does not study and is only nominally a Brahmana.'
VI-i-2-3: Having gone (to the teacher's house) when twelve years old, he came back when he was twenty-four old, having studied all the Vedas, conceited, arrogant and regarding himself as very learned. His father said to him, 'Svetaketu, dear boy, you, I see, are conceited, arrogant, regarding yourself as very learned; did you ask for that teach…
@SreeCharan ^^ Read Verse 4,5,6
@SreeCharan The meaning of what you're looking for is similar to that of verse 4.
@KeshavSrinivasan Btw, I just thought that as according to Vishishtadvaita, Jivatma is different from Brahman, it may/should be of some specific size! What do you think?
@Pandya - BTW See the defination of "Vidnyana" विज्ञान by Shree Krishna told to Udfhva ➡एतदेव हि विज्ञानं न तथैकेन येन यत। स्थित्युत्पत्त्यप्ययान पश्येद भावानां त्रिगुणात्मनाम्।।15।।
When one no longer sees the twenty-eight separated material elements, which arise from a single cause, but rather sees the cause itself, the Personality of Godhead — at that time one’s direct experience is called vijñāna, or self-realization.
@Pandya - it's a Adhyatmik defination , and not the the interpretation we do today of word Vigyana, Actually the word Vigyana used in puranas and BG is in this context only.
@Pandya Yes definitely , actually there are very few contradictions inbetween Vedas , upanishdas and puranas , but puranas explains these philosophies in simple language thats it.And in SB all the things from vedas and upanishdas ,Gita Yoga etc.are discussed in very detail , so it's like a single Ref.book to read the teaching of all this.
yes i have already said before. that i like to study variety of topics. even non hindu stuff. i am also keen about zoroastrian faith.
i used to get fascinated by puranas when i was young later i didnt find much substance in it and high amount of interpolations. i was also introduced to so called vedanta by some people but i found issues with that as well. i m a spiritual thinker.
@RakeshJoshi haha , yes atleast i am the strong supporter of puranas , Most of the things we know about hinduism today , are because of the puranas , where everything from Morality to Moksha is discussed in detail😊
@RakeshJoshi Those who want to showoff their panditya , refute puranas or other texts , but a true seeker never discriminate between texts.One can't complete his study without studying puranas.Puranas is Pancham Veda पंचम वेदा ➡So a wise man never see's any difference between texts.Even thought they are from different religion as said by you"even non hindu stuff"😊👍
@Sakthi - I think yoy need to change the wording in the Question , like where you came to know abt this statement of yours and other ones "The other desires like wealth,fame,power are seems to be avoided with less difficulty." ➡ cite source for you statments , right now they appear like just your personal view's. So I think it's put on hold , but again it will be a Duplicate of this
I've recently read the 3rd chapter of the Bhagavad Gita. At the end, the following is said to get control over the indriyas (senses):
इन्द्रियाणि मनो बुद्धिरस्याधिष्ठानमुच्यते ।
एतैर्विमोहयत्येष ज्ञानमावृत्य देहिनम् ॥ ३-४०॥
The senses, the mind and the intelligence are the sitting plac...
@RakeshJoshi in my place caste is more important and many women and men are killed by this but they are done by thier own brothers and even a boy(low caste) proposed to a girl(brahmin) and the girl refused and talked about the caste of the boy and the boy killed the girl so only i am seeking about this
Your question is about overcoming or wining Shadripus (षड्रिपु) meaning the six enemies of Human beings , as told in Hinduism. They are as follows.
Lust (Sanskrit: Kama) (काम)
Greed (Sanskrit: Lobha)(लोभ)
Anger (Sanskrit: Krodha)(क्रोध)
Pride (Sanskrit: Mada)(मद)
Attachment (Sanskrit: Moha)(मो...
@RakeshJoshi now there are also religious problems in one side caste problem for intercaste marriage and other side christians convert hindus to their religion so many hindus attack christian people when they try to convert
Meaning -By making plans with determination, one should give up lusty desires for sense gratification. Similarly, by giving up envy one should conquer anger, by discussing the disadvantages of accumulating wealth one should give up greed, and by discussing the truth one should give up fear.
@Sakthi in todays scenario inter caste marriage is no issues because hardly anyone is following as per Varna.. I think even Polygamy is also not a wrong idea keeping in mind non hindu rising population :)
@RakeshJoshi Yes. Puranas are also important not Puranas alone. Puranas say greatness of Bhakti. Bhakti is easiest way to attain Moksha. "Rama Nama or Nama Japa" kind of things became famous due to puranas.
@Sakthi Moksha is state with no Gunas. We must kill all 3 Gunas: Satva, Rajas and Tamas to attain moksha. But path for Moksha becomes easy if we have Satva dominantly without tamas and Rajas. Lust is Rajas. We must avoid Rajas and Tamas as far as possible.
@SwiftPushkar siddha medicine is more popular in tamilnadu because when tamilnadu faced a dengue fever all over tamilnadu modern scientists tried all the modern medicines but they were not able to cure them and then they tried a siddha medicine named NilaVembu Kasayam(Neem stem Powder) then it cured the disease then now all over tamilnadu doctors sell the siddha medicine
@RakeshJoshi Yes. keeping Satva high is recommended. But it actually depends on profession. We may not do our dharma properly if we have only Satva. A police officer can't work with Satva. One must choose properly as per profession.
It should be understood that if the rajoguNa creates the urge for any activity, the sattvaguNa gives it direction and sustains it and the tamoguNa acts as a check. So adequate “checks & balances” are inherent in nature’s creation. What is therefore desirable is a balanced state of the guNa-s and not any one guNa alone.
The most common that all sects of Hinduism can agree on would be the Bhagavad Gita.
It is commonly accepted to be one of the oldest scriptures in the world, and it concisely describes the philosophy of soul, God, and their relationship.
@Sakthi I think "Teja" is simply the positive energy or the positive power one acquires through his sadhana like (Dhyana ,japa ,yoga , good behaviour etc.) 😊so one needs this to experience some thing's that normal sansari persons can't see or experience or can do😊
@SwiftPushkar Lord muruga's idol was made of Navapashana it was the only idol with medical properties to cure the people as the air gets medical property from idol and when worshipping the idol the air is breathed by people if they have headache or other disease they were cured
@RakeshJoshi Yes. Every Philosophy is true. We can't say only one philosophy is true. Shaiva Siddhantin was famous all over India untill Advaita due to it's logical structure. Many medival and ancient kings were Shiva Devotees who followed Shiva Siddhanta. Later many became Advaitins.
@SwiftPushkar my dad also said he saw the idol when he was a small boy as later the priests selled small small pieces of idol from behind for CRORES and later they replacced the idol with normal idol now if you go to palani you can only see normal idol that original idol was before 25 years
In the next place another teacher pronounced ""This is full that is full, this full comes from that full, although the full is formed what remains is the full"
@Tezz I'm learning "Ayigiri Nandini.." Song. It says "Vindhya Shirodini" . I saw Sandhi of Shirodini . it is split as Shira + Adhi. This is not Dheerga Sandhi. So, got the doubt.
@TheDestroyer Piranas are called pancham veda ➡I think a verse might be there in those which I have given to you for Your puranas answer.We find mentioning of this Pancham Veda thing in many puranas.
@RakeshJoshi No that is not the root cause , but it's the realisation that every text is saying the same thing and pointing towards the same thing ,that is the cause😊
@TheDestroyer oh ,ok ...I didn't knew that , we will search abt.that😊👍
this statement should not be taken literally because STILL puanas and itihasa ARE NOT TAKEN AS EQUAL TO shruti pramaana. so we should not take it seriously and counter a vedic statement with a puranic. :)
@SwiftPushkar I'm not sure about that. I don't think Mahabharata says that. But i think due to its importance some Acharyas may consider it like that. Even Bhagavadgita is part of Bharata.
all the acharyas of the yore have categorized the pramaanas and i think puranas is even lesser than Itihasa in this list. even your Vedantins followed this tradition. so please consider this .
@RakeshJoshi - Yes ,I am here not refuting higher authority of Shruti's at all ,I certainly 100% agree with that , but my point is puranas also do not contradict or conflict wirh Shruti's..I will tell you abt.this later on 😊👍👍
@RakeshJoshi I think the word veda (in case of puranas) is only used as a "Knowladge" , ie.fifth one.But puranas themselves accepts full authority of vedas and Upanishadas and called themselves as just extension of those.
This reference to itihasa was used by the Mahabharata, which belonged to the class of epic literature called "itihasa", to refer to itself as the fifth Veda.[3] @TheDestroyer
@Tezz oh ok , I think Itihaas + puranas combined is called pancham veda , but i will Check all the verses which i have compiled abt.puranas Tomorrow and will tell you abt.that😊👍👍
Hey all see this➡"A puraanam is not a SHORT STORY .IT IS VERY VERY ELABORATE THAT explains By Sarga and Prati Sarga , the Vamsam, Manvantaram and Maqnvantaraanicham too....So elaborate PURAANAM IS.It tries to explain Vedic Dharmas by so many Parables, So many Examples etc. "
Puraanam is a detailed narration of what Dharma is explained in a beautiful style. @Tezz - Yes but there are very few contradictions btw.those two.rare case
@RakeshJoshi They are telling us the facts , we should not look at that and some other parts in some diff.way , as our mind is so much corrupted in these days.because of media and all other stuff.But in previous yugas people's approch toward's these thing's were diff.
Shani Deva is the son of Lord Shiva through his AshtaMurty forms. AshtaMurti forms are the 8 major forms of Lord Shiva which are described in this chapter of Yajurveda Shatapatha Brahmana. The eight forms described there are:
Form of Fire, Form of Water, Form of Air, Form of Indra, Form of Pl...
I've recently read the 3rd chapter of the Bhagavad Gita. At the end, the following is said to get control over the indriyas (senses):
इन्द्रियाणि मनो बुद्धिरस्याधिष्ठानमुच्यते ।
एतैर्विमोहयत्येष ज्ञानमावृत्य देहिनम् ॥ ३-४०॥
The senses, the mind and the intelligence are the sitting plac...
Your question is about overcoming or wining Shadripus (षड्रिपु) meaning the six enemies of Human beings , as told in Hinduism. They are as follows.
Lust (Sanskrit: Kama) (काम)
Greed (Sanskrit: Lobha)(लोभ)
Anger (Sanskrit: Krodha)(क्रोध)
Pride (Sanskrit: Mada)(मद)
Attachment (Sanskrit: Moha)(मो...
The most common that all sects of Hinduism can agree on would be the Bhagavad Gita.
It is commonly accepted to be one of the oldest scriptures in the world, and it concisely describes the philosophy of soul, God, and their relationship.
Shani Deva is the son of Lord Shiva through his AshtaMurty forms. AshtaMurti forms are the 8 major forms of Lord Shiva which are described in this chapter of Yajurveda Shatapatha Brahmana. The eight forms described there are:
Form of Fire, Form of Water, Form of Air, Form of Indra, Form of Pl...
