Vedanta and Philosophy - 2017-01-16

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4:06 AM

Hiiii GM all :)

4:17 AM

in Hinduism, 45 mins ago, by SwiftPushkar

@Pandya - नमस्ते -:) , हाँ मैंने जिन सवालों के जवाब दिए जा सकते हैं , उनकी सूचि बना ली है , और मै एक दो सवालों पर काम कर रहां हु, अभी मैं 3-4 शादी से जुड़े सवालों का उत्तर दे सकता हूँ, लेकिन , सिर्फ सोर्स नहीं है , क्योंकि उनका उत्तर , पौरोहित्य के पुस्तकों में मिलता है , वो सभी मेरे पास है , उन पुस्तकों से 10 प्रश्नों के उत्तर अभी दिए जा सकते है.

@SwiftPushkar आपका मेसेज देखकर बहुत खुश हुआ!!!!

@SreeCharan- ok :) found your kaliyuga answer , will try to give it today

5:13 AM

@SreeCharan - have you seen this video , i like this video ...youtube.com/watch?v=ANk4fmRNyuE @Pandya

@SwiftPushkar Is it co-incidental or the other?!!! I too visit that channel. I listen to Ye teeruga nanu kirtan composed by Bhakta Ramadasu. See the other videos to find that song.

@SwiftPushkar Meaning is also added by the singer.

@SreeCharan - oh , then there will be no problem :)

That is the job of trusted users. Some are not participating in this task.

5:37 AM

@Pandya don't know

@Pandya have no fresh suggestion for it

@AnkitSharma Move my message above your messages to Hinduism chat room. I wrongly posted in this room.chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/34798866#34798866

not a big deal to keep here

People talk about non Vedanta and Philosophy things here all the time

@AnkitSharma OK.That was reply after my other message.

@AnkitSharma :) HaHa..

:)

@Tezz @TheDestroyer I edited that question. Is it still opinion based?

5:44 AM

@SreeCharan i think we shouldn't edit question such that it conflicts author's intention.

@SreeCharan Even in it's original form, it is not opinion based.

@TheDestroyer @SreeCharan I think I should edit that question as "Why don't we see Lord Shiva living in Kailash if he really exists?"

@Tezz Yes. This is proper.

Although "Does Lord Mahadeva really exists?" is not also opinion based...

@TheDestroyer - oh , i thought u people ( u and tezz) closed mahadeva question , so i too ,voted to close , but i will retract , if required

@SwiftPushkar haha. Why would we close that question? it's proper question but as said by @Tezz, Scriptures are pramana here than our eyes or senses.

5:49 AM

I just edited that question:....

@Tezz @TheDestroyer - but according to Hinduiam "Mahadeva" Do firmly exists , so no question arises at first place , whether or not ... -:)

@Tezz - yeah , nice edit :)

@SwiftPushkar All Devas are real. Shiva, Vishnu, Devi, Rama, Krishna. Their Swayambhu idols is another proof.

@SwiftPushkar yes... but that Question arised beacuse.. Kailash lies on earth.. and we don't see Mahadeva there when we go there...

@SwiftPushkar for eg.. It's not like "Does Lord Indra really exist?" because Indra lives in heaven and we can't go there now...

@TheDestroyer - haha , yes , and places like Amarnath , where millions are taking divine experience since thousands of years

@SwiftPushkar @Tezz One possible thing is they may live in other dimensions.

@SwiftPushkar @Tezz Also, those people who do Kailasa yatra feel some mysterious positive energy during circumambulation of Kailasa mountain.

5:59 AM

@TheDestroyer - IMO , they are in sookasma form , present eveywhere everytime , but gives Darshan to those who , purely follwo dharma , pure devotees , and who believe etc..as told in puranas

@SwiftPushkar Yeah. Everything is possible in Maya.

@TheDestroyer - And also , one can see Shiva, Vishnu, Devi, Rama, Krishna. .. when one breaks , or goes beyond MAYA ..Avidya , doubt

@TheDestroyer yes.. I also think Kailash is in another dimension which corresponds with the Kailash which we see..

2 hours later…

8:13 AM

Who voted to close this as "primarly opinion based question"? — The Destroyer 3 hours ago

Beware I am @TheDestroyer....

@SwiftPushkar Don't rely on other users. If you feel that question deserves closure or re open, be independent to vote. :)

@AnkitSharma that was a quick response!!!!

User submitted a comment as an answer on my own post

Seen that. I was about to flag.

@AnkitSharma In the question Holy is spelled as "HOLLY"

8:29 AM

@SreeCharan fixed, anyway you can edit it too

@SreeCharan k

@AnkitSharma I edit posts when the author has a rep less than 1k or the author is unavailable to communicate/inactive.

@SreeCharan it doesn't matter, edit whenever you see chance of improvement

@AnkitSharma K

8:49 AM

@SwiftPushkar Yes. Hanuman chalisa is very powerful. I chant it regularly. I learnt it a long ago.

9:23 AM

@SreeCharan - oh ,ok 😊👍👍

9:43 AM

@SwiftPushkar Did you listen to the keerthan I said?

@SreeCharan- unfortunately no , i am a bit busy finding some sources , aslo writing 2-3 answers , right now but surely listen that , when free, aslo pls. post here any such stotras ,mantras etc. i will surely go through them :)

@SwiftPushkar ok 😊👍👍

10:27 AM

@Tezz - wow , you are making grt discoveries in Hindu scriptures :) Excellent answer

10:58 AM

@AnkitSharma ok

@AnkitSharma ok, no-problem

11:15 AM

@Pandya - check out the answer

@SwiftPushkar Yes, I'm reading..... Thanks!

@SwiftPushkar looking for Hemant/Winter/Vasant & Grishma/Summer....

@Pandya - yes , just posted 2 looking for rest :) but will take time , in this answers links are avaliable so , it was easy but , where links are not avaliable ie. books etc, its bit hard or will take some time :)

@SwiftPushkar ok. Btw, there is no need to complete/satisfy answer as soon as possible. You can write & improve answer when you find/collect sources according to your time and convenience.

11:31 AM

@Pandya - ok:)

:)

12:06 PM

@SwiftPushkar Thank you!.. actually I'm now concerned in answering unanswered question.. I'm planning that I at least answer each question per day ( I answered 3 questions today)...

@SwiftPushkar yours also nice answer in season.. I just read it...

@Tezz Namaskaram!

@Tezz - yes we all will try to write at lest one answer , i have with me 3- previous answers , just finalising them , will post those in some time and very thanks for encouragement , and best wishes for your answers :)

Haha; it looks like we're running a campaign of increasing % answer on Hinduism,SE!

@Pandya Namaskaram!...

@Pandya - yes for (graduation) पदवी :)

12:13 PM

@Pandya yes, we should run campaign to increase answered question percentage...

@Tezz Yes, I've tried to answer two questions yesterday. I know you and @SwiftPushkar doing this job better/well.

@Pandya active users also should support such campaign... as there is very less chance in answer getting accepted.. we should upvote it... at least 2 upvotes is needed...

In your answer about Tvashta it got only one upvote (which is me)... I think it didn't get counted as answered question ..

@Tezz I think either 1 upvote or acceptance is counted as answered question:

I think if A = no. of question displayed at site.SE.com/questions B = no. of questions with no upvoted or accepted answers displayed at site.SE.com/unanswered/tagged/?tab=newest, then percent answered = (A-B)/A*100 right? — Pandya Oct 18 '16 at 11:04

So, active user should always upvote nice answers.. or answers which show effort...

@Pandya Oh.. I supposed it needs 2 upvotes to get counted as answered... as one gets revival badge after 2 votes only...

@Pandya @Tezz - yes , upvoting is very IMP , we should encourage users and will tell then how it helps in keeping site healthy :)

bye for now all will back in some time ... at 10 :00 pm -:) TC

12:21 PM

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@Tezz Yes, (@SwiftPushkar) you're right. Voting is also very important: /cc

12:31 PM

Though I don't have much knowledge of Vedic Swara, just tried to answer with basics at this question.

@Pandya yes... fine answer!...

@Tezz Thanks!

@Tezz it takes some time to get counted as answered question after 1st upvote.

@Tezz I didn't know that valmiki is still living

Do you know any other scriptures which say he is still living?

@Tezz what do you think Is (can) this a (be closed as) duplicate of (your) this?

12:47 PM

@Pandya i can answer this question.

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Q: Vedas and Brahma

How can the Vedas be constant when they come from the 4 heads of Brahma and Brahma changes every time? Vedas need to change? Isn't it? Only Puranas may be constant.

vedas brahma puranas

How Vedas are constant with time?

@TheDestroyer Hmm... by pointing out of question looks worked!

@TheDestroyer I do know about:

How about ShvetaShvatar Upanishad 6.18? — Pandya Dec 18 '16 at 10:27

@Pandya My answer will be from words of Swami Krishnananda and some portion from book "Spiritual Heritage of India". If you know any Upanishad verses, you can post better answer.

@TheDestroyer ok then answering will surely help. Go ahead!

@TheDestroyer I suggest you to post answer. I'll suggest if any improvements.

@Pandya Ok.

1:08 PM

Btw, I think duties of Kshatriya are described in BG 18.43 which is answered in this post. Should this be closed as duplicate of that or they're just related?

@TheDestroyer I think most of the ancient sages are still living... there are only rare famous sages which aren't alive now... eg. Dadhichi...

@TheDestroyer I think Mahabharata itself tells many times that Valmiki is alive...

@Tezz ok.

1:33 PM

@TheDestroyer are the claims in this question true... ?.. hinduism.stackexchange.com/questions/16758/…

Especially:

Gavi Gangadhareshwara temple

An ancient Hindu temple dedicated to lord Shiva on the Shivagange hills in Bangaluru, Karnataka. According to science; it is not possible to convert ghee to butter. But in this sacred temple this is possible. When the priest apply Ghee offered by the devotees on the Shiva Lingam; it turns into butter surprisingly. Science & technology has no clue on this action.

@Tezz Not sure. I read about Siva ganga temple on Quora long ago.

Many Shiva Temples in India are mysterious.

@TheDestroyer Ok.. do you know that quora answer...?..

1 hour later…

2:55 PM

@Tezz I don't remember now. Let me check.

3:29 PM

@TheDestroyer Ok...

Ohh.. i mentioned different answer.

@Tezz Yes. I think it's not possible. @KeshavSrinivasan might help us.

@TheDestroyer what is not possible..?..

@Tezz I mean it is miracle.

@TheDestroyer Ok... let it go...

3:56 PM

@TheDestroyer very good answer!

4:09 PM

@Pandya धन्यवादः

to say in Sanskrit 😛

ok

4:54 PM

....... I've few doubts......... And 1st is:

@Pandya @Tezz @SreeCharan @SwiftPushkar This user asked the same question on different forums

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Q: I am in search of some important sloka which is a part of mahabharat(13th chapter anushana parva)

I am in search of some important sloka which is a part of mahabharat(13th chapter anushana parva) after vishnu sahasranamam and the slokas is about praising rishis, munis, raja rishis etc.. to get all wealth, health , success etc. For reference, please see the link (http://www.sacred-texts.com/...

Bjraam: Sir, I am in search of some important sloka which is a part of Mahabharat (13th chapter anushana parva) after vishnu sahasranamam and the slokas is about praising rishis, munis, raja rishis etc.. to get all wealth, health , success etc. Kindly help if any one know the same and the main sloka is starts as : Namo Vasitaaya Maha vrataaya" Regards, Raam.
Swami Ramswarup: **The shloka quoted by you does not exist in Mahabharat epic, please**

vedmandir.com/content/questions-answers-october-15-2015

@TheDestroyer That was unclear in our site.

@SreeCharan He actually meant

@KrishnShweta Namaskaram. Why did you delete the question?

@SreeCharan sacred-texts.com/hin/m13/m13b115.htm

5:01 PM

@SreeCharan - Pardon me pls. but can I ask u One personal question?,

@SwiftPushkar Yes. What is it about?

@SreeCharan Namadkaram.. I'll go through few more posts (if I found). If I don't understand then I'll ask here :)

@SreeCharan - You r from telangana ,i.e. from south , but how your hindi is so strong , I mean i never seen people from south India writing Hindi ..So asked 😊👍👍👍

@SwiftPushkar @Tezz @TheDestroyer @Pandya @KeshavSrinivasan In which parva ithe places of Lakshmi devi are said in mahabharata.?

@TheDestroyer so?

5:08 PM

@SwiftPushkar Telangana was under Muslim rule for long time. So, they speak Deccani Urdu.

@Pandya Just said simply.

"Please" in that Swamijis answer gave me a small laugh.

@TheDestroyer oh! ok.

@SwiftPushkar Is that a personal question? 😊 In hyderabad, many can write and talk Hindi fluently. @KrishnShweta can also speak hindi I guess. @TheDestroyer Many can speak pure Hindi too.

@TheDestroyer - ok :) Yes , Nazam right? 😊👍

@SwiftPushkar nizam.

@SreeCharan Yeah. I know.

Yeah. @KrishnShweta also speaks Hindi. @SwiftPushkar Sadly in some areas, Hindi is spoken well than Telugu.

5:11 PM

@SreeCharan - oh , ok , I know that , my question was to the people from south ON THIS SITE 😊

@SwiftPushkar Hyderabad (Bhagyanagaram) is gateway to South India, where North meets south. 😀😛

@TheDestroyer - oh , ok , 👍👍

@SreeCharan Yeah I know Hindi. Hydrabadi Hindi too ;)

@KrishnShweta - HYD. Hindi & Marathi local Hindi is almost same 😀i.e. takwn from films , filmy dialogues 😀😀

So.... here is my 1st question: Why do people become sages? Is it just because they want to get Moksha?

@SwiftPushkar I don't know about Marathi local Hindi but you will laugh a lot when you hear Hyderabadi Hindi

5:20 PM

@SwiftPushkar that could be due to Nizam rule in some areas of present day Maharastra or erstwhile Hyderabad State.

@KrishnShweta - No , they get knowladge abt everything first ie. reading vedas etc., then they impliment that knowledge in practice i.e.yiga , meditation etc.of brahman , and in lot's of years (Tapas) they aquire siddhies , but it also related to previous birth karma 😊

@TheDestroyer - Yes , and mostly , because of filmy dialogues 😀👍👍

* yoga

@SwiftPushkar OK..

@KrishnShweta bharatdiscovery.org/india/%E0%A4%8B%E0%A4%B7%E0%A4%BF

@Pandya Going through it :)

@Pandya - Yes , getting Sakshatkar , साक्षात्कार , requires lots of Tapa :)

Where is @KeshavSrinivasan today 💐😊

5:35 PM

New Jersey :P

@KrishnShweta :P

@KrishnShweta - lol , 😀👍👍🆕🎽

@SreeCharan - Don't u believe in voting , u r voting count is low , u are member since long , more than ,me 😮

@SwiftPushkar I was inactive for 5months 20 days. So vote count is low. My vote is so valuable.(JK).

@SwiftPushkar I am voting these days.

@KrishnShweta Great Joke :P

@SwiftPushkar @Pandya I'm confused again :(

@TheDestroyer ;)

5:46 PM

@KrishnShweta - For what @TheDestroyer - let her ask 😀

@SwiftPushkar @Pandya Why Rishis don't marry? Since the link says(given by Pandya) says: इस श्लोक के अनुसार 'ॠषि' धातु के चार अर्थ होते हैं- गति, श्रुति, सत्य तथा,तपस्
As I don't see anywhere about marriage in that link.

@KrishnShweta Many rishis have married. E.g : Agastya- lopamudra, Kashyapa- Vinata, Kadruva, parasara, vasista, etc.,

@TheDestroyer I know you were kidding me

@SreeCharan Hmm.... True.

Seems I'm misunderstanding things.... sorry.

@KrishnShweta what confusion?

@KrishnShweta - Gati= Forward vision , Shruti = Vedas , Satya= Trurh , Tapas= Tapa , meditation etc.

5:54 PM

@KrishnShweta do you want to know something like:?

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Q: Is it acceptable for Sages to marry and have a family?

According to my understanding, a Sage is a person who has broken all the earthly bonds and intensely devoted to God. Such persons distance themselves from all kinds of material and physical pleasures. But legend has it that great sages like Agasthya and Vashishta were married. How is it acceptab...

@Pandya - Good find , I think u r expert in searching :)

@Pandya Exactly that I was searching. Thanks :)

@KrishnShweta ok.

@Pandya I thought people become sages as they want to attain Moksha and to achieve that they don't marry ^.^

@Mr.Alien - Hiiiii , How r u 😊🌸💐

5:57 PM

@SwiftPushkar ssup, am good, wht about you?

@Mr.Alien Hello!!! Cool pic..

@Mr.Alien - Yeah , me too , first time talking 2 u , but i think I know u Well 😊👍👍👍

@SreeCharan thanks bro!

@SwiftPushkar haha, so tell me something that you know about me!

@Pandya @KrishnShweta but i think in Kaliyuga being sage after marriage is not possible. haha.

@KrishnShweta Though there is no strick rule "not to marry" to get Moksha. Visit:

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Q: How many distinct independent paths are there to achieve Moksha?

How many distinct independent paths/practices/methods are there to achieve Moksha? Can moksha be achieved through just one path/practice? If not, what are the minimum combinations of practice, and in which order must they be practiced? Is there weightage to these practices, for example, a part...

@Mr.Alien Namaste, I think I'm seeing you first time in this room! :)

6:01 PM

@Mr.Alien - You are a person who thinks about Right & Wrong in day today life , firm in decisions , likes truth , .. Mostly seen u in META 😊👍👍👍

@Pandya I hardly visit chat rooms, used to be active couple of years back, but I hardly get time to spend in chatrooms

kinda free today so visited

@TheDestroyer But The Destroyer can.

@SwiftPushkar haha well, i am weird though

@Pandya good efforts by you by editing unanswered questions and closing unclear, duplicate questions. I think we can bring unanswered questions to 3 digits soon.

@Mr.Alien You look like Rohit sharma to me from some angle.

6:03 PM

@Mr.Alien Namaskaram!

@TheDestroyer Thanks. yes!

@Pandya I think instead of researching about my doubts before asking here, it was better to ping you :)

@Mr.Alien ok.

I think we should edit description of this chat room, as we "chat beyond philosophy" sometimes :P

@KrishnShweta also visit related post hinduism.stackexchange.com/q/2392/277

6:06 PM

@SreeCharan no way man...

@TheDestroyer Namaste sir

By the way, going to sleep. Good-bye! @SwiftPushkar

@KrishnShweta lol. Iswara Iccha.

@Pandya I wish I could sleep that earlyt

never slept before 2-3am

@Pandya Thank you so much... Good night

@Mr.Alien lol. I'm younger than you.

6:07 PM

@TheDestroyer am not that old ;p

@Mr.Alien Happens with programming geeks.

@Mr.Alien But i think relatively young.

@SreeCharan Rohit sharma ante Cricketer ee na?

@KrishnShweta Avunu. Ammo meeku cricket gurinchi telusa? :P

@TheDestroyer am 26

6:13 PM

Hey Guy's ,Will sleep Now 😴🌛 GN , BYE , TC , Thanks 👍👍 @Pandya - :)

@SreeCharan "neeku" word use cheyyu. Nenu kuda use cheyyalani decided ayyanu :P

@Mr.Alien I'm 23.

@TheDestroyer fairly young

@SreeCharan I work or I play, depends

@TheDestroyer - I think , in his new Hostel , there is no WiFi , ...so he mostly use Mobile Data ..

@TheDestroyer True.

6:14 PM

@SwiftPushkar ohh.. ok. I think he is preparing for exams.

Message got deleted. I wanted to edit that. Usshh..

So whats up with you guys

@TheDestroyer - but , that was long time ago , how much time ...? I guess it's because of that , just a guess ...

@SwiftPushkar GN.

@TheDestroyer - Yes , bro , GN , TC 👍👍👍👍

@Mr.Alien Am not listening ~ What does it mean?

6:18 PM

Even i'm feeling sleepy. GN Guys. "Mingle with Brahman" soon.

@KrishnShweta ?

@TheDestroyer I won't say good night to you ("Guys") :P

@Mr.Alien looks like she clicked on your chat icon and saw the 1st line.

@Mr.Alien Yeah exactly what TheDestroyer said.

@KrishnShweta Why not? you are a "Guy"like us. :P :P

6:20 PM

Aah I see, I think I had that cuz I used to stay on StackOverflow chatroom but never replied to anyone

How to put our own line like that? @Mr.Alien

@TheDestroyer Advaita?

@Mr.Alien OK

@KrishnShweta Haha. No Advaita. Joking from Maya.

@SreeCharan chat.stackexchange.com/users/55556/mr-alien < Replace with relevant id here, ur user id

you'll see about section with edit link

@TheDestroyer Hash!!

6:25 PM

@Mr.Alien Got it. :)

@TheDestroyer "Good night" aithe cheppanu, "Bye" cheptha :P

@SreeCharan I just now updated. What do you want to update there?

@KrishnShweta Cheppanantoone cheppav :P

@TheDestroyer I just asked. I will update when I think of one.

@SreeCharan :)

@TheDestroyer Not accepted :/

6:32 PM

@KrishnShweta ok.

so u guys are engineers?

@Mr.Alien Why did you become inactive on the site? your questions and answers are very good.

or it's just that you are on StackExchange for Hinduism?

@SreeCharan I am active but its just that I don't post questions and answers anymore, I only handle flags and cleanup posts

also, I am not as good as you guys are

@Mr.Alien I'm gonna become an engineer soon.

@Mr.Alien Still a student. Only here for Hinduism.

6:38 PM

@KrishnShweta awesome.. all d best

@SreeCharan that's great... good to know that youngsters are interested in Hinduism..

@Mr.Alien Thanks Mr. Mehta :P

@KrishnShweta you welcome!

@Mr.alien Is mehta your last name? I didn't get it.

@SreeCharan I just looked at his profile. He provided his Twitter account link

@SreeCharan yes

stackoverflow.com/story/mr-alien it's over here as well :)

6:45 PM

@Mr.Alien I have gone through your website but missed your twitter.

@Mr.Alien I think we belong to same sect.

@SreeCharan my website is pretty bad, again, not much time to work on that, always come up with some new stuff and I end up scrapping it

@Mr.Alien Why is the number beside review still raising even though there are non pending delete/undelete posts?

7:00 PM

user image

Thats what I see

@Mr.Alien Ok. My part of reviewing them is completed. But there are other users who should cast their votes.

user image

And this is what i see. @Mr.Alien

@SreeCharan yes, hence it shows the count

then how about posting question s and answers again on the main site?

7:20 PM

@SreeCharan not happening :p cuz am not good at it

now we have some excellent users

who are pro in this subject

so I would rather focus on Moderation

7:39 PM

@Mr.Alien Bye for now.

7:58 PM

@SreeCharan cya bro

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