Do you think you might have a chance to generate that code or whatever I need to access Ondina soon?

Did you sign up for the beta?

Oh sorry, I meant the PPR.

right, did you sign up for it?

I filled in the form sometime last year IIRC.

Oh, haha I was looking for George Edison

:P

You won't get the automated welcome email, but I can give you a link to use to setup your account

Awesome!

cp.ondina.co/user/signup?key=ThiSk3yi53cr3t

@MarcoCeppi If I haven't said it before, thank you, thank you, thank you.

I can hardly wait to get started.

Your welcome, getting Python and Django setup is a bit complicated, let me know when you get to that point

next month there will be a one-click install for Django, but until then you'll have to do it manually

No problem.

There's a new Knowledge Base going up soon, but I'll just publish the Django article when you get ther

Yup, I'll let you know how it goes.

...and report any errors I find.

ondina.co/2012/06/getting-started-with-django

It's a little round-about but pretty straight forward

Perfect.

@MarcoCeppi I'm afraid my SSH key isn't recognized. Is there somewhere in the CP that I need to visit to register an SSH key?

@GeorgeEdison It's under Settings -> SSH

@MarcoCeppi Silly me. Sorry for not seeing it.

It's okay, it's not very obvious

there's going to be this huge getting started guide next month that we're putting togehter

Oh, okay.

We're trying to do away with all nested menus

so SSH, Python, etc will all be on the same level

@GeorgeEdison one pitfall, you'll need to fill out each field in this page: cp.ondina.co/manage/sites?domain=django.quickmediasolutions.com for the site to work

that's another thing that will be more obvious in the next release

lots of little UX bugs like that being fixed

Okay, thanks.

@MarcoCeppi One other thing (and I can file this as a bug if you'd like) - I don't seem to have access to the python command from a shell.

@GeorgeEdison exmaple?

Ah. That's a problem. Open that as bug and I'll see if I can patch your uesr

python
bash: python: command not found

@MarcoCeppi tracker.ondina.co/issue/18

@GeorgeEdison what's your account #?

b1018?

yeah, thanks

@GeorgeEdison can you use python now?

@MarcoCeppi The command works now.

@Marco: Unfortunately I keep getting an error that the 'site' module is missing.

can you show me which command?

I'm probably missing some data folders

So I'm logged in under b1018 in ~/Django-1.4 and trying to run:

python setup.py build

Just trying to start the Python interpreter (the python command by itself) fails too with the same error.

interesting, missing libs probably

one sec

@GeorgeEdison try now

@MarcoCeppi Afraid not - same error.

I think i see the error

@GeorgeEdison try now

@MarcoCeppi SUCCESS!!

One other thing - I can't seem to create a database or db user.

I enter the details and click "create database" but nothing happens.

@GeorgeEdison open chrome inspector and watch the console, if you get an error it'll pop up there

Ah, will do.

if you get an error let me know, but it should work

goes to check the API

Next version a lot of the console errors will be replaced by human readable errors alerted to the control panel

It... worked!

I guess I'll file a bug then indicating that it doesn't work in Firefox.

Whoa, adding in Firefox doesn't work?

heh, we need to do better browser testing. We pretty much solely develop in Chrome

@MarcoCeppi: And I will try very hard to make this the last thing I bug you about - running git from SSH throws an error:

Fatal: no entropy gathering module detected

@GeorgeEdison let me fix that, one min

How about now?

@MarcoCeppi Works, thank you!

Well... almost.

yw, most of our users don't really use SSH atm, so it's nice to have someone who will be banging on it a lot more

NO!

I'll paste the error... one sec.

(I have to figure out how to copy stuff from PuTTy.)

b1018@bayes:~/domains/django.quickmediasolutions.com$ git clone george_edison@bitbucket.org/george_edison/…
Cloning into quick-media-solutions...
Password:
error:  while accessing george_edison@bitbucket.org/george_edison/…

fatal: HTTP request failed

It gives the same error both with and without the correct password.

Interesting, cloning from github worked

is there any other way you can clone other than https?

There is SSH.

let me try something first

this looks to be an SSL issue with curl

@GeorgeEdison try now

@MarcoCeppi It's doing something...

Ah, it finished.

Another success!

One last thing (this is related to the earlier Python issue) - Python can't find anything I've stuffed in ~/etc/python2.7.

@GeorgeEdison virtualenv isn't setup, at least I don't think, which is why you have to reference by hand

Ah, okay.

we've been working on getting virtualenv setup properly for ondina accounts, but it's a lot more involved

But it will work under Apache, right?

that's why you have to add the paths to the wsgi in the guide

Oooooh.

That makes sense.

mmhum

eventually all that will just be magic

Well thank you for the help.

Ondina is pure awesome as far as I'm concerned.

Thank you, means a lot to hear that

Sorry it's taken so long, I'm still a bit fearful about people using it - to me it's still a fragile little baby

@MarcoCeppi We all feel like that when we're working on something big.

in a few months I'm going to be trying a pilot developer program, to see if people want to help write code for the project

(ケ¬◟¬)ケ

@MarcoCeppi: So far everything has been exceptionally great. However, I've run into a bit of a snag. I can't build the Python-MySQL module because I don't have access to gcc. So I tried building it on a VM and copying it over. But it seems like you don't have libmysqlclient.so.18.

It's not a show stopper - I can use SQLite in the meantime.

@GeorgeEdison I can move it over in to the jail

I'll install the the python MySQL module as well

@MarcoCeppi Oh, that would be awesome.

Thanks.

yes, soon you'll have the ability to install modules per account

Is python-mysql in the repos?

I believe so.

I think that's even the package name.

k, installed and moved to environment

try now

you're our first real python customer

Okay, one sec.

I have to remove the old one.

>>> import MySQLdb
Original exception was:
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
ImportError: No module named MySQLdb

Okay, one more time!

Oh hang on.

_mysql_exceptions.OperationalError: (2002, "Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)")

Seems the module is working now.

yeah, you don't have a mysqld.sock

can you provide a hostname instead?

Sure.

use local.mysql

as in the future mysql database for servers may not be on the same physical machine

that address will always point to your MySQL server

_mysql_exceptions.OperationalError: (1044, "Access denied for user 'b1018_qms'@'localhost' to database 'b1018_qms'")

Now it's connecting.

using the right password?

Lemme confirm.

Nope, I just updated the password in the CP to match what I have.

Still won't connect.

interesting.

I'll set both of them to something simple for a second.

Oh wait.

Now the DB user is gone.

I recreated the user - same problem.

I've set the password to "test".

what's the user?

I'll test the passwd

b1018_qms

getting the same error

one min

@GeorgeEdison found your problem :)

You need to explicitly add a user to a database, if you click on the database there's an add user button

Oooooh.

where you can give it either R or RW privileges

Ah.

Thanks.

that should be a bug, where if a database doesn't have a user the user should be notified

going to grab some dinner

Thanks for the assistance.