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A: Should we encourage or discourage flags for personal taste?

Jack B NimbleEveryone knows the MPAA ratings are horribly inconsistent and flawed. To say that any image or sequence of images within a PG-13 rating would be appropriate to be displayed indefinitely in the main chat room is perhaps naive. Did they rate the movie PG-13 specifically for that scene, or for the...

 
Again, "graphic murder" isn't some shadows and a splat of red corn syrup.
 
@WadCheber Just because all movies use fake blood, doesn't mean the filmmakers intend it to look fake. Their intention to make it look real. Unless you are saying that scene is a gag inside the film, where a person is faking their own death.
 
I'm saying it isn't graphic. It might as well be shadow puppets. We see a shadow inflate, then some red stuff.
 
@WadCheber The two silhouettes, maybe, but the clearly red blood splatter across the wall seems graphic to me.
 
The fact that we disagree suggests the issue isn't clear.
 
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@WadCheber I didn't flag that image, neither would I have been likely to. However, I understand why someone else would see it as offensive or graphic, and I accept that the community chose to have it removed.
 
I think one person flagged it, another validated it, then it was removed. That's the impression I got from the edit history and from Keen's statements.
 
I'm with jack on this one, @WadCheber. I don't find it graphic, but I do find it somewhat distasteful, and I would personally have been glad to have it either scrolled out of view or removed.
 
@JohnP - Then the issue is back to "why is the picture okay in an answer, but not in chat?", to say nothing of the issue of whether a flag was better than saying "can you delete that?". But these points are moot now, which is why we're on meta at the moment.
 
@WadCheber because the answer is behind a link, the link to the question. Only a person who wants to see answers relating to the question is going to see it. Not a random passerby in a chat room who has no choice but to see the image you posted.
 
@WadCheber - I don't like it in the answer either. I would avoid reading the answer (Even if interested) because I don't like the gif. (I wasn't involved in the flagging, however).
 
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@JackBNimble - You know as well as I do that you can see answers without meaning to - e.g., in review queues. The argument you're making has been routinely dismissed because it doesn't hold up. It's why we have spoiler tags and rules about content in answers.
 
@WadCheber I admit I didn't consider the review queue. Of course, your answer would only show up there if you were a new user or your answer was flagged for something. But the front page doesn't show images, and neither does OBIE (on question previews).
 
Or if someone suggested an edit, or if it was too short, or... etc.
 
@WadCheber true enough.
 
@WadCheber Simply because it has nothing to do in that answer either, which is why I downvoted it. It adds nothing and is awfully disturbing. Now that doesn't mean I'd flag the answer as offensive and wouldn't enourage anyone to do so either. But saying that it is universally fine in that answer is stretching it a bit, too.
 
@TARS - You now appear to be adopting a position of willful obtuseness, so I'm punching out. "What happened to Marlena" "Here's a picture and an explanation" is perfectly acceptable. You're using dvs to make a point, which is your prerogative, but is in very bad taste. A mod should know better, or should cease to be a mod. I'm done.
 
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@WadCheber I'm not using downvotes to make a point, I'm downvoting an answer for including a disturbing image only for the sake of inlcuding a GIF. The (freely viewable) YouTube excerpt and your dissections of the GIF in the other images is all that's needed for proper explanation. The answer, be it correct or not, is definitely sub-par in that regard and downvotes are for expressing exactly that. But I agree with disengaging as you're starting to take a downvote personally, which I could have expected but felt compelled to explain my reasons for it still.
...Calling that "bad taste" because you can't understand that the GIF is useless and bothersome is questionable and you are degrading to an attitude of averseness that I feel uncalled for. But be it so. I'll leave it now at simply suggesting that you do what you might have done some hours ago. Take a rest and calm down, please.
 
@TARS Disparaging someone's opinion because it doesn't jive with your own and presenting them as being unreasonable is entirely the reason I'm taking issue with these flags. The gif was an answer, it was useful, it made a point, it only bothered someone who didn't know what flags were for.
 
@Axelrod I'm not presenting him as unreasonable for disagreeing with me, it's his right to not see an issue with the GIF. I'm presenting him as unreasonable for calling me that, simply because I did not agree with him and expressed so using a tool devised for exactly that. What he does with my downvote you seem to do with the chat flag, take it personally and blow it out of proportion. Please do not feel compelled to drag me any further into this. I'll flag this comment thread to hopefully get thinned out as it doesn't lead anywhere.
 

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