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12:00 AM
@Frank Probably, based on the combination of ripped assets and UI placement.
 
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Q: What else give almost 100% discount/Rebate?

Jim ThioI have enough workshop with adjacency bonus. It seems that I can build effectively infinite whatever I want for $1 each. Firestorm, any vehicles. However, guns and instantly build items cost remain the same. Am I correct? If so, what turns it on? The workshop or the engineer? Here are some r...

 
quick, @AshleyNunn is gone, Bridge - be bad!
 
@TrentHawkins Looks like a generic Sonic game to me.
@TrentHawkins Also, your pings are loud.
 
@Frank but the answer seems to indicate that it's a particular generic Sonic game
 
@murgatroid99 It's self answered.
 
12:02 AM
@Frank Correction, my pings were loud.
 
@Frank not that many Sonic games are available on windows to begin with
 
@Chippies This one's apparently an unofficial knockoff.
 
@Frank which, in a way, narrows it down
or maybe the opposite, idk
both, I guess
 
@Chippies I'd think it would broaden it, really.
But then, I'm no expert when it comes to knockoff games.
 
@Frank It definitely matches, though
The UI of that game is identical to the one in the question
 
12:03 AM
@murgatroid99 Could we have found that from the screenshot itself?
 
@Frank if you had known the game then definitely
 
@Frank I thought the whole point of the screenshot was to make the answer objectively verifiable
 
@murgatroid99 Yes, it is.
 
which is how ITG usually works - the one who has played the game has a serious advantage in answering the question
 
@Frank then I don't understand your question
 
12:05 AM
If the screenshot can identify the game, then I have no issues.
I just wanted to make sure we could, because it looked awfully generic to me.
 
If we want to get into "is the artifact enough to identify" argument I turn to the blue rectangle example from a while ago
 
And from the question, the asker wasn't even sure the screenshot was from the game in question.
 
@Frank I can independently verify that the game mentioned in the answer is identical to the one in the question
 
that is generic.
 
@Frank UI, background, character being used - all that are vital in narrowing down and identifying the game
 
12:06 AM
@murgatroid99 Okay, then we're good.
 
if it was a cropped screenshot, identifying might be harder/impossible, because we'd be missing information to match against
 
I guess I should say that the game in the answer matches the screenshot in the question
By definition, I don't know what the game in the question is
 
I'm just trolling through right now.
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Q: What is the name of this OST?

Hashirama SenjuI tried to find the OST of this trailer, but without success. Is it part of the official game OST? Or it is made just for the sake of the trailer?

 
And all I had to do to perform this verification was google the game name and look at the first hit
 
Noooot sure that's about game-id.
That seems more like music-id.
 
12:08 AM
Is this really what we're doing? Reviewing the whole tag as a group?
 
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@frank please don't go through the entire tag with a chat play by play. If you have issues about how things are handled, meta is the place to go.
 
@Frank That user name. Was not surprised that their highest rep is on Anime
 
@AshleyNunn I'm not. I'm bringing up a couple examples that I'm seeing as I'm reviewing it myself. I don't plan on bringing up any others.
 
@Frank seems like a grey area, because it's a game music-id
 
@Chippies Yeah. I'm seeing if we have any others.
 
12:09 AM
meta would probably deal with that quickly
 
We have font-id, for some odd reason.
 
@Frank that doesn't sound like it belong on arqade
 
@Chippies Hey, it's in a game. That means we're experts, right?
 
You just exploded my sarcasm meter.
Congrats
 
I think that was actually part of the original suggestion for the ITG A/V artifact exception
 
12:11 AM
@Unionhawk That in turn exploded my sarcasm meter.
 
@murgatroid99 The font-id? Yeah, it was.
 
@Frank A little bit of a grey area... not sure the game-identification really applies, as the game is known. But presumably if that music is in the game, it is something we can verify.
 
@Frank while in theory, that argument might be valid, removing the game out of the question and just asking to id the font to someone who actually knows shit about fonts would probably be much more beneficial to everyone
 
@Frank also song ID, for that matter
 
@murgatroid99 Was it? I don't recall that.
I'm not finding precedent for music identification in our existing questions.
 
12:13 AM
fonts aren't necessarily specific to games, whereas a song might be
music experts probably wouldn't be experts in identifying video game soundtracks
whereas gaming experts might have a chance
 
@Frank there isn't an example, but it's in the suggestion Q/A
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A: "Here is a thing. Look at the thing. Do you see the thing? I would like to know what this Thing is Called." A plea for sanity

LessPop_MoreFizzWe shouldn't be. Simple rule of thumb for identification questions: You must be asking for the identification of a real actual thing that somebody else can look at. Examples of acceptable formulations: "What is the font in this screenshot?" "What game is being played in this Youtube video?" "W...

The first cut off item there is "What song plays during the 4th level of that Awesome Game?"
 
@murgatroid99 RIP in peace, @OrigamiRobutt.
 
@Chippies eh... I believe the font question (or at least, one font question I recall reading) was about Pokemon, which uses a custom font that people have since ripped / replicated from the game data.
 
@murgatroid99 That had links to other music based questions, though, so that's what I was looking for.
 
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12:17 AM
And I think our stance is generally, "Meh. So long as there are no other issues, leave 'em be."
Aww. @TrentHawkins called me on my bluff.
I might be painting one of my models' inner frames pink now.
 
Idk what this is but it's cool (CS:GO custom map or something)
 
So, the source engine has weird physics
Such that strafing against an angled surface causes you to accelerate
 
@GnomeSlice classic.
 
12:33 AM
@Frank ehehehehe.
 
@Chippies accepted
 
@Aequitas alright, gonna send it now
 
@Chippies Cheers :) enjoy besiege :)
 
@Aequitas I sent it, let me know if I did something wrong (I don't think I did)
 
@Chippies nope I think all good, thanks :)
 
12:38 AM
@Aequitas awesome! Enjoy you two! :)
 
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Q: Why is Assassin's Creed Rouge forgotten so easily

DystoCreed It seems everybody doesn't recognize Assassin's Creed Rouge is a game. Nobody seems to have it, and the people that do are few and far apart. Why is Rouge such an insignificant part of the series? Could it be that since it was a PS3/X360 exclusive nobody bothered to get it when they already had t...

 
@Frank If anyone's curious; Frank routinely asks questions like, "What colour should I paint the inner frame of [model]?" out loud. Which is silly, because you'd think he'd know not to do things like that by now. As is my way, I respond with "Pink.", which resulted in "I will if you do it first". So, glove having been slapped I was left with little other choice than to force his hand.
 
@TrentHawkins Now, to find a model where a pink inner frame would look good.
 
user15026
@Lazers2.0 Rogue. R-o-g-u-e.
 
@AshleyNunn what's wrong with Assassin's Creed Red? :P
 
user15026
12:43 AM
@Chippies It's not a thing, silly :P
 
user15026
And we're not french.
 
@AshleyNunn we're... Canadian... some of us, does that partially count? :P
 
@AshleyNunn So, I watch a live roleplay show of their own making, and they added a rouge class to make fun of everyone who spelled rogue wrong
 
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@TrentHawkins I shouldn't be laughing at this as much as I am.
 
user15026
12:44 AM
@Unionhawk Oh man I love that so much
 
Ooh!
I have a ball I can paint the inner frame pink on.
@TrentHawkins Gauntlet accepted.
 
@AshleyNunn It used to come up frequently in City of Heroes when they introduced the side switching "Going Rogue"
 
This is why I'm glad KoL uses Disco Bandits and Accordion Thieves instead of Rogues.
 
user15026
So hot on the heels of an ITG....I need your help identifying a thing!
 
@AshleyNunn Bring it on!
 
user15026
12:48 AM
It's not a game.
 
:(
got a photo or something?
 
user15026
 
@Frank Pft. Gauntlet dragged kicking and screaming.
 
user15026
Anyone know who these dudes are?
 
user15026
Friend works at a thift store and was curious when tehy came in today.
 
12:49 AM
@TrentHawkins Would you rather I just grabbed a kit and sprayed it neon pink?
 
@AshleyNunn they look semi-familiar
 
@AshleyNunn Why do they remind me of the Thundercats?
 
and by that I mean, I feel like I've seen those characters in some obscure tv show or something
 
user15026
We have no idea what they are, but she's like "I swear I know them:
 
user15026
and I was like "brb asking my nerdpile"
 
12:51 AM
@AshleyNunn Is the stuff in the background relevant?
Or just random toypile?
 
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@Frank Just random stuff in the same box, no idea if it is connected.
 
@AshleyNunn Hmm Kangaroo people of some-sort... which makes me want to say Tank-Girl.
 
the guy on the right is definitely a sorcerer of some sorts
 
Even google image search of them seperately gives no results.
 
Warriors Of Virtue is a 1997 Chinese-American fantasy film directed by Ronny Yu. It is in English, Mandarin, and Cantonese. Although commercially unsuccessful and critically panned, a sequel, Warriors of Virtue: The Return to Tao, was made in 2002. == Plot == Ryan Jeffers suffers a disability to his leg, preventing him from trying out for sports and fitting in with other kids at school. He is currently the waterboy of his school's football team and has a crush on the quarterback Brad's girlfriend. He often seeks escape through comic books and dreams of adventure, hiding the depression of ...
 
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12:54 AM
I knew you guys would be able to help :D
 
Aww. @Fluttershy figured it out while I was Googling and posted before me.
 
@Fluttershy Confirmed
same figurines as in the original photo
 
@Frank How does he even know it's original
bah why do people say OST when they just mean ST
 
@GnomeSlice For the same reason people say "ATM machines", I imagine... at some point enough people grasp that this acronym means a thing, without understanding exactly what it stands for.
 
Bridge, I'm out of metallic black spray paint.
 
1:04 AM
@TrentHawkins HUMBUG
 
I've gone through two and a half cans in the last week, and I'm only half done.
 
@Frank Use pink
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@GnomeSlice I like you.
 
@GnomeSlice ST would imply the song is used for anything other than the game or game related things, which is rarely the case with songs of that type
 
@TrentHawkins Don't encourage him.
 
1:08 AM
a well done pink mecha warrior would be pretty badass actually
it would have to be good looking pink though, not some cheap plasticy looking one
 
And I thought we had bad crash dumps
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@Chippies I've got "Electric Pink" spray paint, which looks like it has shiny metallic flecks in it, if the cap is any indication.
 
@TrentHawkins that sounds like it could be pretty badass
 
@Frank should totally use pink
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@Unionhawk I am. On a different kit.
 
1:12 AM
If only we didn't have 3 pins as it was
 
Not on my $500 one.
Especially not since it would take ~4 cans to actually spray the entire inner frame.
 
@Chippies It's mostly going to be the inner frame. Not sure how much of it will show through when the outer bits are on.
 
@TrentHawkins cop out
 
@TrentHawkins need appropriate colours for the outer bits too
 
@TrentHawkins I might as well go all out and get some complementary colors for the rest.
And I'm not finding any other store in the city selling this specific color. :(
 
1:16 AM
@Chippies I'm thinking a very-light blue and yellow for the two main outer colours... probably transparent over a polished chrome. There are likely also going to be a few purple highlights.
 
I seem to have cleaned out the city.
 
@TrentHawkins Idk about blue and yellow going with pink, but purple sounds nice
 
Did I miss an ITG that needs burning?
 
I also have no idea about how well colours go together until I see the finished product, so don't take my "advice" as an advice
@StrixVaria didn't need burning
 
Nope
 
1:18 AM
Oh :(
 
but we flamed anyway
 
@Chippies Yeah, going to need to try things out on the runners first - as per usual.
 
Dungeon placement makes it look like a supervillain's hideout
Woo RNG
 
@GnomeSlice cube world?
 
@Rapitor Trove
 
oh
 
Basically cube world but good
 
not hard to do
 
1:42 AM
And also free, I think?
It's an MMO, right?
 
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Q: Connect to highway coming from outside city limits

aslumSo one thing which is still giving me a real hard time is incoming traffic from outside the city limits. I just can't seem to figure out a good way to deal with it and I always end up with a ton of gridlock. Here I've got a 6 lane one way road going around, and I'd think that would alleviate cong...

 
2:01 AM
@PrivatePansy Yes, and yes.
Also available on Steam as of recentish
Well that's why I get like 20 emails a day from bandcamp about new music, I guess.
 
Okay. Rocket League is super fun.
 
@Fluttershy I TOLD YOU BRO
cc @StrixVaria
 
Success! More paint found!
 
Dear Twitch: OIUGHDGLKSDHTLSIDHLITHSLKTLKJDGHLKJH Y U USE FLASH
 
@Unionhawk Dear @Unionhawk, on behalf of twitch wesoldtoamazonformillions! Roflwtfdowecare Hahahahhaah!
 
please don't tell me Amazon Prime Video isn't flash based
inb4 it's Silverlight
 
Mean Tweets: Pluto Edition http://bit.ly/1GkSNMo [Video: 2m 15s]
 
2:38 AM
@GnomeSlice thanks, now i'll be listening to SoS for the rest of the night
 
@Unionhawk So much this
 
@Unionhawk It's Silverlight
 
@Rapitor Good.
 
@murgatroid99 Welp
 
But with a Flash fallback
 
2:39 AM
the new track is pretty great, have you heard it yet?
 
I seemed to remember seeing this, after saying "I hope it isn't flash"
 
@murgatroid99 Still horrible. When did Flash become a fallback technology?
 
every technology has its share of terribleness
 
Heh
"We jump over this trigger aaaaand no mini boss"
amazing
Goddamn the megaman block is always so cool
 
2:55 AM
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Q: PS3 picture too big for old tv

AngeliaSo, I decided to set up my PS3 and then I turn it on. I go onto a game and I noticed that the screen is too big for my tv. I was wondering how I could change that, but I have an old tv so I don't know if that can be solved. If you can help, thank you very much

 
I almost want Trump to win out of the absolute hilarity that will ensue
 
Can you imagine
 
I'd move to Canada.
 
I'm sure it wouldn't be that bad.
 
3:03 AM
It would be.
 
I mean you don't get to be as rich as him without knowing a thing or two about management.
 
he's a businessman. which isn't exactly what america needs. I'm saying his sexism/racism is hilarious
 
a country basically is a business
Vote Trudeau
 
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@GnomeSlice sweet jesus fucknuggets
 
It's a little more complicated than that but I mean sure
@AshleyNunn The man is a clown
 
3:06 AM
@AshleyNunn Pretty bad eh?
Why would he think that was a good idea to retweet
 
20 secs ago, by Unionhawk
@AshleyNunn The man is a clown
 
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@Unionhawk Yep. He just likes to prove it
 
he doesn't really have a "PR filter"
 
Maybe he's doing it on purpose
 
Maybe
Maybe it's all a conspiracy
It appears to be working, scarily enough
So my hope is he combusts soon for the sake of everyone
 
3:07 AM
he's pretty well known. any publicity is good
 
He's got some time to set himself on fire, though, I thought he did that a long time ago
 
I thought the prevailing theory is that he's doing this to make the other Republicans look moderate
 
thats possible
he makes Cruz look like a hero
 
@PrivatePansy My theory is the man is a clown
That's my working theory
Just, broadly speaking
 
I believe he has his own subreddit now
 
3:10 AM
Hold on
Hold on right now
 
holding.
 
*playing elevator music in my head*
 
@Unionhawk Eh, that one I can understand
 
I mean I guess
He's still a clown
 
3:15 AM
Clown for president.
 
Is that all I have to do to starbait @GnomeSlice now? Use the word 'clown'?
 
i just want a scientist for pres.
 
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Q: Can you make a new auto save in gta 5?

Khyree McneilIm playing a new game of gta 5 story so i can get achivements but it kept trying to overwrite my old save. So i accidentaly deleted the auto save save and now the game never auto saves. I dont want this because im scared ill forget to save and loose tons of progress. Help?

 
Oh. Here's @romscoutSDA's "Xbox" #sgdq2015 https://twitter.com/romscoutSDA/status/626228631673696256
 
3:25 AM
context?
 
That is an Xbox in use by one of the runners in the SOTN race
Yes
 
@GnomeSlice Trump isn't necessarily rich because he's good at business... He's gone bankrupt several times. He's rich because he says he's rich. He constantly estimates his wealth at several times his actual worth. This convinces investors that his projects are worth investing in, because he's trump, everything he touches is golden... right?
 
So. Windows 10 will share your wifi password with any of your social network.
And not tell you.
 
@Frank old news, and it does tell you. it's a configurable option
 
@Rapitor Does it turn it on by default?
 
3:28 AM
i don't have win10 so i couldnt answer that
 
@Rapitor So, yes, it's configurable.
But the main sticking point is whether it just turns it on by default without asking.
 
On by default
> Those contacts include their Outlook.com contacts, Skype contacts and, with an opt-in, their Facebook friends.
 
that doesn't really confirm on by default
 
HANG ON THEN
JEEZ
HERE
> Wi-Fi Sense doesn’t reveal the plaintext password to your family, friends, acquaintances, and the chap at the takeaway who's an Outlook.com contact, but it does allow them, if they are also running Wi-Fi Sense, to log in to your Wi-Fi.
 
The weather has been nothing but crappy this entire vacation. The weather is supposed to be nice while I'm on vacation.
 
3:35 AM
> A Microsoft PR rep has been in touch about the headline, pointing out that when you share access to your network via Wi-Fi Sense, your contacts cannot share that access to other people. We know this.
 
Microsoft enables Windows 10's Wi-Fi Sense by default if it is a clean install of the operating system, and if it is a particular edition.
 
@Unionhawk you can generate a QRCode for your Wi-Fi, which is what I think I'll do at some point.
Wi-Fi sense sounds nice, but it also sounds like it'll be just as much work
 
it sounds convenient and nice, but a bit iffy.
definitely not for a work environment. but hanging out with friends it is definitely better than trying to read out the passwords
 
Well, just as much work in order to keep it secure
@Rapitor which is what the qrcode method tries to solve
It's also worse for anyone who hides their SSID, like I do
 
to address the security hole it has created, Microsoft offers a kludge of a workaround: you must add _optout to the SSID
well theres that i guess
 
3:43 AM
You can also turn it off
 
but that's the reasonable thing to do
nobody likes to be reasonable
 
sets fire to @Rapitor
you're fired
 
you're fired
nofaku
 
Especially big corporations
Stupid mobile making typing slow
 
sooo who wants to add me on skype/outlook?
 
muahaha if i add everyone, i'll have free wifi EVERYWHERE!!!
 
i could see it work as an advertising(?) thing. "like Mcdonalds on Facebook to get wifi access"
 
Hmm
Eenteresting
 
@Rapitor ooh that'll be good
 
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3:52 AM
@GnomeSlice Yay Sonata Arctica :D
 
4:26 AM
ITG questions are cray
I just got another upvote for an answer that's now got 25
dafuq
i've put way more effort into other questions that got <5
 
@Aequitas effort is overrated
 
4:44 AM
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AequitasI know about safe's and piggy banks (like in this question) but I would like to transfer more than just items, I would like to be able to transfer the house that I have spent quite a while building without having to hamaxe it all down and build it from scratch. How can I easily transfer my const...

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Q: In GTA 4, does driving a particular vehicle make it appear more often?

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Q: how to use IGI-4 cheats

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5:09 AM
@Aequitas What game is it for?
Oh, the ITG
 
@GnomeSlice what music based dungeon crawler is this
 
I'm guessing it was crypt of the necrodancer
Popular games = lots of votes
 
but from who
I don't get it
like people aren't gonna type into google "what music base dungeon crawler is this"
 
user15026
Who knows.
 
What do you guys think?
 
user15026
5:21 AM
Holy. Shit.
 
user15026
That's.
 
user15026
Just.
 
user15026
Amazing.
 
user15026
Seriously, that must have taken FOREVER.
 
That's very impressive
But I guess with the scripts, you can automate it
 
5:23 AM
Mostly automated, but the transcript wasn't made to be machine readable
So there's a lot of tweaking
 
You mean "machine readable"?
 
Eh, yeah
 
@PrivatePansy how do I play it?
 
@Aequitas It's not a game. It's just an interactive graph
 
It's a little odd that the EQG animated shorts are mushed together at the end, undelineated
 
5:24 AM
so what did you do? transcribed some episodes?
 
@Aequitas the episode transcriptions are all already available online
 
made it into a pretty graph depending on who said it?
 
@murgatroid99 Yeah, they're all on one page. Creating a special subroutine just to handle that was too finicky
 
ooh that's done by code? that's cool
 
Oh, I just noticed that you can click the legend on the side to highlight stuff
That's cool
I think it would help a little to increase the contrast between selected and unselected items, though
 
5:26 AM
You mean the items on the list itself?
Because the lines are already at 0.16 opacity, so reducing that would cause them to become transparent :P
 
@PrivatePansy yes
Also, how did you decide who to label "Antagonist"?
 
@murgatroid99 Big bads
Basically season finale and premiere villains
I could also use the wiki's definition of antagonists, but that would color about 20% of the lines black
There's actually quite a bit of control over the antagonist tag. For instance, Baconhair is only tagged as that for the first movie
And Discord before S3
 
@PrivatePansy yeah, I noticed that one
Also, I don't know how often italic text appears there, but it's styled oddly or something. If you look at Rainbow's last line in Daring Don't, the italic and non-italic text is mushed together
But I don't see that issue elsewhere, so it might be a data problem
But, it also happens with Twilight's letter in Feeling Pinkie Keen
 
Hmmm, let me see
The error is in the data, but I need to check at which stage was it introduced
I just threw up a hack to always add some whitespace around those for now. That works because HTML collapses whitespaces by default
 
5:43 AM
Maybe you're treating the italics delimiters as whitespace and collapsing other whitespace into it. Or something
 
for i in dd('i'):
    i.replace_with('*' + get_text(i) + '*')
I elected to parse away the i tags in the transcript with BS
That stripped out the surrounding whitespace somehow
 
Maybe the whitespace was in the italics, and was getting stripped by the get_text call
 
Oh, you're right. I can't believe I didn't notice that
 
eww c or something
actually it's just the lack of camelCase i don't like :p
 
I'm going to beat you over the head with a giant parenthesis if you tried to call that C
 
5:51 AM
@Aequitas python
My hobby: debugging code I can't see by behavior
 
@Aequitas the Python style guide says that most identifiers should be snake_case
 
Not a bad idea, actually. Sometimes when faced with a large script it's hard to find where to start
 
The major exception being classes, which are PascalCase
@PrivatePansy By the way, is that BeautifulSoup?
 
5:53 AM
I like that library. It's what I've used whenever I wanted to do web scraping
 
Somehow it still doesn't feel as flexible as using something like jQuery
But it works well enough, yeah
 
I think it's partly about the purpose of those libraries
BeautifulSoup is about parsing and editing an HTML document, while jQuery is about manipulating a live DOM tree, with all of the native JS support that gets
jQuery has the advantage of starting with a pre-parsed, pre-rendered DOM
 
Yeah, but BS doesn't do parsing either. It relies on an external HTML parser for that and just interfaces with it
 
That's true. But it also doesn't get the full builtin DOM stuff that JS does
It's more like BS is taking the place of that DOM stuff
 
Hmmm, apparently there are Windows 10 RTM ISOs floating around which you can use to upgrade without waiting for Windows Update to download the files
Not sure how legal the files themselves are, but it should be legal to install and activate
 

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