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12:11 AM
I did a bad thing
Also
cc @LessPop_MoreFizz something about a Dog Park
 
@GnomeSlice that game looks fun but it lacks pugs
And the "your dog in the game" is crazy expensive and sold out
 
@GodEmperorDune Right now it's all tallish dogs
 
12:28 AM
@Yuuki Once I finish my current ascension I'll put enough money in the KoL clan to buy a basement, would you mind making me leader again, so I can buy it the second I put the meat in? I'm currently doing the palindrome paret of the macguffin quest, after that there is the war and the sorceress, so in a couple days I'll be able to lift hardcore and access my meat in Hagnk
Or at least I should be able to get to it in a couple of days.
 
Neat.
 
@Arperum Made you Dungeon Master.
That should allow you to open up the basement.
 
Bridge, how has this not been flagged?
 
@Frank How do you know it hasn't?
 
@GnomeSlice they have a Boston terrier in the trailer; bostons have a very similar body build as a pug, only the face is different.
 
12:41 AM
They'll probably add it, then
although it might be hard to do a pug face in low-poly
 
it's mainly the ears and color scheme
I think I will back it and start bugging the creator
 
Dog person, I guess?
I'm tempted, though.
 
Yeah
He gets the dog body language down really well
Especially the playground type stuff
 
that's a separate game mode, I think
Dog Park
It's probably in the main game too though, parks with dogs
 
It was in the trailer
 
12:46 AM
also
> This project is the culmination of a lot of work and a bunch of crazy interests: procedural content, urbanism, quadrupedal locomotion, and dogs -- how they play, the stories we tell about them, and what makes them tick.
@GodEmperorDune Right, but the Dog Park game mode is what the game was originally (I think) and is included.
 
Dog locomotion is pretty advanced actually
 
yeah
 
I believe they were doing something with 3 legged dogs to make robots better handle losing a limb
 
12:58 AM
So VW is throwing engineers under the bus in an attempt to salvage their reputation.
 
Context bro
it's a thing
 
@Frank So... Engineers are getting thrown under a VW Bus, eh?
 
@TrentHawkins hue
 
@TrentHawkins Awwww. That was bad.
 
@Unionhawk Oranges are delicious no matter how you cut them (cc @AshleyNunn @Chippies @Sterno)
@Chippies @GnomeSlice is, and @Sterno wishes he was Canadian. Also @Frank.
 
1:02 AM
@Wipqozn I don't wish. I am.
Also, I feel like playing FF14. But have nobody to play it with.
 
@Frank That is indeed a poorly worded sentance
@Frank I'd play with you if I wasn't a jerk
 
Okay. Guess I'm making pants again.
 
user15026
@Wipqozn Truth.
 
how do I find out who rejected my flag?
 
user15026
You don't.
 
1:11 AM
was it you!
but they're wrong, they must know!
 
@Aequitas you can always qq on meta
 
@GodEmperorDune sounds good!
 
Remember the key to a good meta post is to berate and ridicule the people who you are trying to get on your side
@Frank vw done goofed. Throwing engineers under the bus makes it harder to recruit new engineers in the future. So good luck with that
 
@Aequitas Good luck with that.
If you make a meta post that sounds like whining, chances are extremely good it's going to get downvoted.
If, on the other hand, you have a good argument, you might get a good answer. But the flag will still be declined.
 
Picked up a copy of Paper Girls #1 yesterday on a whim. It's so good
 
1:18 AM
@Aequitas if you get downvoted, be sure to edit your post to show your hostility towards said downvoters
"Downvoters, come at me bro" is always a winner
 
@GodEmperorDune haha
 
The first issue is a double issue with a regular cover price
 
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Q: Zombies don't fight back

C. GuanI play Minecraft once a while. But this time when I played I noticed something weird. The zombies walk around me as if I am not there. The game is in normal mode and when I attack the zombies, they just stand there. I'm not sure what's going on. In addition, when I trap them in an enclosed wood h...

 
Welp, I guess I'm going to california in a month to hang out with people who are going to a convention that I don't really have any direct interest in.
 
user15026
1:31 AM
@LessPop_MoreFizz yay?
 
@AshleyNunn There will be much drinking
 
user15026
okay, that makes it maybe more yay?
 
Yay!
Dammit new SwiftKey yay is a word
 
@AshleyNunn Indeed.
 
@Wipqozn I forgot about @GnomeSlice, but I imagine he doesn't have much experience with banks yet and wishing to be Canadian would count if @Sterno actually resided in Canada. As for @Frank... blame @fredley for being first tab completion for @fr
 
1:34 AM
@LessPop_MoreFizz Don't go then?
 
@Wipqozn well duh
 
@GnomeSlice But I want to hang out with the people because they are good people. The fact that they will spend their days at a dumb video game convention for some bad video games is their business. I will be sleeping off my hangovers.
 
which video games
 
The ones that are made by a very popular company from orange county california who run their own convention
 
Oh, those games
 
1:38 AM
I still don't know what you're talking about, but I guess you hate popular stuff so it makes sense
 
I hate popular thing!
 
@GnomeSlice I would assume either blizzcon or quakecon, whichever's scheduled earlier
@GnomeSlice do you use ING Direct / Tangerine bank?
 
@Chippies Uh... I'm with President's Choice
 
huh, didn't know they had a bank
 
I've never even heard of either of those
 
1:43 AM
Blizzard is in orange county at least
 
@GnomeSlice ING Direct used to be a thing for a long time, they rebranded as Tangerine reccently
but that's all I know
Adoray was trying to convert me, which he probably would've succeeded if we actually had a branch in NL
they seem "hip"
 
They're capital one in the United States now
 
I don't care if my bank is hip
 
@Frank why did you down-vote my question... there is nothing major that is incorrect. Sorry if I accused the incorrect person. — C. Guan 6 mins ago
 
@GnomeSlice hip and good interest rates and low/no fees
and great sign up bonuses
 
1:45 AM
@Frank Except we all know it was you
hue
 
a "hip" company generally "gets it" and is more up with the times
in my experience, at least
 
Beats by Dre are hip
But they're not even remotely worth the money
most of the products, anyway
 
no, beats by Dre are cash cows cashing in on a brand
they don't "get it", they just sell their brand
 
but they're hip
 
they might be hip-hop, but not hip
not the right kind of hip at least
inb4 bodyparts
anyways, gotta get ready for work...
 
45 secs ago, by Chippies
inb4 bodyparts
 
FUCK
 
@GnomeSlice It's Blizzcon, as @Chippies/@Unionhawk figured out.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz I thought most of Blizzard's games were supposed to be pretty good
 
1:48 AM
To be fair, they are games I once loved, I am just intensely burned out but still have many friends made through my time playing said games.
 
didn't they make starcraft or whatever
 
Yes
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz Why does that make them bad now
 
@GnomeSlice Yes. And Warcraft. And World of Warcraft. And Diablo.
 
Blizz made Rock'n'Roll Racing
 
1:49 AM
@GnomeSlice Because I am bitter.
 
Oh.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz is just a bitter old man now, or something
 
no one ever mentions Rock n'Roll Racing when talking about Blizz :(
 
@Chippies Or The Lost Vikings.
I would attend a Lost Vikings Con.
 
That's probably not going to happen.
 
1:50 AM
You should set up your own convention
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz not something I got to play much so I usually don't talk about it, but it's certainly mentioned more often than RRR
 
with blackjack
and hookers
 
@Unionhawk That is basically what I am doing!
Except replace Blackjack with BSG boardgame and hookers with beer beer and more beer.
 
Well it's perfect!
I would attend such a convention
 
I am getting shredded by the normal AI in Concrete Jungle vs. mode @AshleyNunn
 
1:53 AM
I would attend an Arqade convention!
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz isn't blizzcon the one with the ball pit
 
user15026
@GnomeSlice Dashcon had the ball pit.
 
No, wasn't that... I forget but that was this year
 
Yes
That
 
user15026
1:54 AM
And it was actually not this year
 
It was last year
 
user15026
there was supposed to be a Dashcon 2015 in various guises
 
lol
 
Oh I see
 
user15026
but....drama ensued instead because it was the same people who ran the last one
 
1:54 AM
lmao
 
The world's saddest ball pit
 
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Q: Command and Conquer Generals not launching on win 7 64bit even after numerous fixes

EtzelI've tried a large number of solutions to the problems that 64 bit Windows 7 has with Generals and Zero Hour, to no avail. I've been trawling all over the internet for a fix for my problem. To wit, I've properly created the options.ini file with proper file type as well as altering the resolutio...

 
@Lazers2.0 If it doesnt launch then I am not sure you can qualify them as 'fixes' :D
 
@James no error no problem
 
user15026
OMG THE CHIBIROBO GAME COMES OUT TOMORROOOOOOOOW
 
2:04 AM
@Aequitas Hehe
 
I pre-ordered the new Tales game. So gonna enjoy that.
 
@AshleyNunn Are you gonna get it? Let me know if you like it!
 
user15026
@twobugs I am so going to get it :D
 
@Frank Zestiria? Eh... I haven't enjoyed a Tales game in years. Hope you enjoy it, though.
 
@twobugs It has an interesting premise.
 
2:18 AM
When does it come out, anyway?
It sounded like they made some good changes but I also heard it got a very lukewarm reception
 
user15026
augh tomorrow is the start of Oktoberfest
 
user15026
do not waaaant
 
Oktoberfest has been going on for weeks and technically it's late for Oktoberfest
 
Oktoberfest is the end of September.
 
Yes
I mean various cities have been doing Oktoberfest over the last 2 weekends (Oktoberfest Zinzinnati was 2 weeks ago iirc)
 
2:32 AM
Yay for world's most frustrating mission.
 
Basically what we're saying is Toronto is Wrong(tm)
 
And of course as soon as I say that, I complete it.
 
Geek Beach is making a non-mobile title
and it looks great
 
@Yuuki the game can tell if you complain
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz you are going to be in orange county?!
we must have a bridge meetup
 
2:39 AM
@GodEmperorDune yes. I will likely be intoxicated for the entirety of the ~93 hours I am there.
 
drinking involved makes it more fun:D
 
Like. If I weren't renting a car to get from LAX to Anaheim because it is literally cheaper than any other means of doing so, I would be getting hammered on the plane and drunk before I hit the ground.
 
drunken LAX is no bueno
but anyway i will see what i can do to join in the shenanigans
 
I have been drunk in lax before it was fine
It is a better way to have a layover than sober lax
 
So I reassigned all my staff to either R&D or Support so I could get the cargo Fulton.
 
2:48 AM
Speaking of drunken shenanigans, that reminds me, I need to find a day to go to the Dayton breweries (or at least one)
 
@Yuuki Not a bad idea, but once you can get people in combat
 
Welp, gg. I just got the cassette for "The Final Countdown".
 
3:04 AM
There are cassettes for the Peace Walker theme and Snake Eater :)
And Sins of the Father
I don't think there's a Here's to You cassete
 
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Q: I found an interesting card battle game

Fiona GoghValhalla Lost is what i am going to share with you today. I am quite stirct in card game,but this this game satisfy me. At first the link was broken for me but after retry a couple of times it worked fine and was able to download the game and start playing. All right,i should pay more patience. ...

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Q: How can i have blue/purple guns not spawn in Borderlands 1?

StormerI have 3 buddies to farm Crawmerax with and we can kill him rather quickly like 3 minutes or less, but the legendary and pearlescent gear gets bogged down in the blue and purple crap. I have modded the .ini files to not have green and white dear but the blue stuff is just everywhere. Any mods or ...

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Q: Share me with your favorite games

Fiona GoghAs for me, card battle games are excellent. You can even promote your strategy and skills in it. Can anyone share me with your favorite game? CCG or TCG would be better~ Thx.

 
3:56 AM
Plan for tomorrow: 1) chipotle for lunch 2) ???
 
4:08 AM
Solid plan
Star-worthy plan
 
4:42 AM
Crash Drive 2 is more fun than it has any right to be
It's objectively horrible
and a mobile port to boot
 
5:27 AM
Ugh, that was not pretty.
 
 
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6:32 AM
it's oyster egg day in kol!
cc @AshleyNunn
 
7:06 AM
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Q: How would one port forward a sagemcom F@st 2304?

joeHow do you port forward a Sagemcom F@st 2304, because when I go to the router's IP, when I port forward, it doesn't work. Thanks in advance!

 
7:18 AM
CHAT! I think I'm in silent hill, halp?
 
watch out for pyramid headc
 
looks more like an assassin's creed viewpoint
climb to the top and the fog should go away
 
I dunno, the fog's everywhere
 
you have to make the eagle noise too
 
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Q: How to sensibly rob the Sierre Madre Vault?

GeoffAtkinsInspired by this question Which vendors have a lot of cash?, I was pondering how best to get all of the gold bars out of the vault? Collecting these bars quickly exceeds the carrying capacity of the the courier and you then have to get out past Elijah. I am playing it on the PC and last time I j...

 
7:39 AM
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Q: Create a modded server with just a few mods

Tom HartI'm looking to create a modded server, with just a few mods in it, (pretty much just Extra Utilities and Botania), and I'm wondering what the basics I need to do are. Do I just need to add the jar's to a mod folder, and MC picks them up, or is there an in between step I need too?

 
8:06 AM
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Q: Alternatives to Raptr

ChuI would like to know alternatives to raptr for tracking gametime (I would prefer automatically but if manually is all that's available I'll settle for it) and trophies/achievements. I know about some sites like exophase and playfire but these do not let me add/recognize older games like NES, SNES...

 
@Lazers2.0 it's rude of you to suggest that we replace @rapitor
 
@GodEmperorDune But just think! We could get an @trexor
 
i'm not sure if @trexor is classy enough
@rapitor has the top hat and monocle
 
True, we would need to get @trexor at least a cane and a pencil moustache
 
I feel like I'm missing a reference here.
Also: TANGERINES!
 
8:18 AM
Well @Rapitor is someone in chat, and the question lazers posted above are the only references
 
I still have some, but their numbers are rapidly dwindling.
I'm mostly confused about the @trexor thing.
 
Drat, you'll need new ammo to throw at people then
@Arperum t-rex-or
 
facedesk
@KevinvanderVelden No throwing tangerines. This is food of the gods we are speaking about.
 
 
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9:43 AM
Hmm, finding out after a few days of working with the code that certain submodules aren't actually loaded on your desk
Yet everything works fine
Why do they even exist then?
 
10:13 AM
Also, uuh s/desk/disk
 
(Extra ( )
 
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Q: Maintaining control during probe atmospheric landing with RemoteTech

Sergii ZaskaletaI've dived into unmanned exploration with RemoteTech mod for added challenge. I am at an early stage in the Career mode and my core communications constellation is 3 satellites at 700km orbit with a Communotron 16 for inter-constellation relays and LKO service and a pair of Comms DTS-M1 on each c...

 
Thank you @KevinvanderVelden. I didn't even notice.
 
10:32 AM
... there have been 41 commits on this project whose only message is "backup"
 
10:43 AM
my cat just typed an ascii smileyface (☺ this one) in skype and I have no idea how...
 
11:03 AM
@Chippies probably with his paws...
 
@Arperum wow, I didn't even think of that!
although he did lie across the keyboard with his whole front body, so paws weren't involved much
 
@KevinvanderVelden oooh, that makes sense! I have regained my trust in all big company executives!
 
@Chippies I know right! It was totally just some dudes that put it in
I mean, I was fairly sure that it was, like, from high up? But now that they've said it wasn't I'm totally convinced
Also seriously: If a fricking republican is saying a business exec is talking bullshit you're in trouble
 
11:20 AM
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Q: How is a console machine(PS, Xbox) different from a Computer?

UsernewI know nothing when it comes to consoles, but I know a lot about computers. What is the difference between a computer and a console in the following terms: In computer, we buy a DVD/CD, and we install games on it. Thereafter, we don't need the DVD/CD to play the game(except in some cases). So, ...

 
@Chippies Ah, sarcasm... Got to love it.
 
So... I think I'm done with work for today. My boss isn't here so his laptop isn't here so I can't run the unittests because for some reason the database is on his laptop...
 
@KevinvanderVelden Yay?
 
Well I'm kinda still required to hang around
 
I'm sitting at the garage waiting for my car to be fixed, while working on the laptop.
Brake pads needed replacing.
 
11:36 AM
Better to replace than to find out when they're malfunctioning =p
 
@KevinvanderVelden Yeah, that's a load of crock.
 
@KevinvanderVelden They don't malfunction, they just are too thin, and at that point you start wrecking other carparts when braking. And those cost a lot and are not that good at braking.
Source: been there, done that.
 
@Arperum I'd consider them wrecking other parts a malfunction?
 
@KevinvanderVelden The other parts are still part of your braking system, but it's just that the padding in between is gone, so now you brake by smashing metal into metal. ANd that noise is horrifying. And these metal parts are kinda pricey.
 
@Arperum We still haven't gotten past smashing two parts together, and letting friction do the work.
 
11:43 AM
@Frank yes we have, it's called regenerative braking =p
 
@Frank nope, but if those parts are metal there is a) not that much friction and b) the noise. Oh god.
 
@KevinvanderVelden One of the parts being a generator just makes it more fancy. :P
 
@Frank but there's no smashing of bits together! (I assume there's a backup brake in it for hard deceleration, but that doesn't count)
 
@KevinvanderVelden Something from the generator has to touch the wheel.
 
@Frank the EM field inside the motor?
 
11:46 AM
@KevinvanderVelden I was thinking something more along the lines of whatever spins the generator to recharge the battery.
 
@Frank yes, the motors
It just reverses the polarity so the motors send power to the battery
 
Oh, interesting.
And the motor's natural resistance slows the car down.
 
I can't see that allowing progressive braking.
 
It doesn't, you still need friction brakes to fully stop the vehicle (and prevent it from rolling down hills)
The braking force also decreases with speed which is unhelpful
 
11:49 AM
Okay, so we're one step up from caveman breaks.
 
We should be manipulating gravity waves to bring things to a stop.
Oh, you need to stop? Well, down is now behind you.
 
Heh
"I didn't hit his car from behind your honor! He released his brakes to late and rammed in to me!"
 
It would have to be a very localized field. So we're not spewing stomach contents all over the car for every ride.
And probably have a few failsafes so you can't trick it into thinking up is down.
 
@Frank what I was referring to was that it wasn't braking as much as accelerating you backwards, so not releasing the brakes would cause you to go backwards =p
 
11:54 AM
@KevinvanderVelden Well, also failsafes for that.
You'd probably still want mechanical brakes for when the vehicle isn't in use.
 
Or alternatively we could realize that we've invented a way to provide thrust while breaking newtons third law and get flying cars, easy spaceflight etc
(Heck, jetpacks!)
 
@KevinvanderVelden Use whatever Superman uses
He seems to ignore Newton's Third Law just fine whenever he flies in space, unless he's silently ejecting copious amounts of gas from his behind in the movies
 
He's just emitting large amounts of radiation
 
@KevinvanderVelden ie. Honorverse.
 
Still need to read that
Just finished ancillary justice though, that was great
 
11:59 AM
The next book is coming out very soon!
 
@PrivatePansy For Honorverse?
 
For Ancillary Justice and Sword
Also, speaking of cartoon realism
 
Well I'll still need to read ancillary sword first =p
 
12:37 PM
I wish our QA person also still did her DM (document management) job, because now I'm doing the work that DM should be doing, but won't.
A word to the wise: You usually don't want to use section breaks. They make life difficult.
 
@KevinvanderVelden Move all the servers to California
Every server in the world
I just saw some formatting that I hate, but I'm not going to bother fixing it. Because it's literally the last problem that I see in the doc.
 
Huh. Ron Perlman's going to be in Fantastic Beasts.
"Wizardry. Wizardry never changes."
 
1:11 PM
@GraceNote Colorforms?
Oh, and as I read further down the transcript, someone already said that.
Although that was the brand name, so if you look for them these days you have to look for "Reusable stickers" and then hope it's actually the colorform type things and not just stickers that lose slightly less stick every time you peel them off.
Man, that image looks so awesome, I kind of want those colorforms now
 
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Q: How can I install a new language pack in euro truck simulator?

sachiketiIs it possible to install a new language pack to euro truck simulator? I have installed a russian, lithuanian language version of the software and I am interested in changing the language to English from the game itself or by adding a mod. Please help me if you got an idea. Thanks.

 
1:27 PM
We’re proud to present the official release dates for our upcoming slate of films through 2019. http://t.co/1cbmRnVv03
@Ktash @AshleyNunn So... far... away...
 
@Yuuki They are terrible people for placing The Incredibles 2 so extremely far in the future.
 
201*9* what the hell
 
Yup. That's multiple generations away.
 
So, Bridge
I don't think I've talked much this before, but for the whole of the past year, we've been in legal dispute with our freeholder (the person who owns the building in which the flat we own is situated - yay property law). Today, 4 days before the court date, they've folded, and met our demands.
 
1:37 PM
@fredley I don't recall you mentioning it, congratulations!
 
@fredley Congrats dude, that's sick
 
This means that, for the first time in a couple of years, I might have disposable income!
 
Yeah! Gaming computer time :D
 
This is the reason I haven't owned a computer in 2 years, or, well, anything new
 
I figured
 
1:37 PM
And now I will be able to again!
Hooray!
 
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Q: Do we need to upgrade a PS/Xbox in the same sense as computers needs to?

UsernewLike, Graphic cards, hard disk, sound, etc. that we do in PC in order to play newer games?

 
@fredley Do your demands include free unlimited potato chips crisps?
 
You are all permitted to drink one (1) glass of champagne on me, up to the value of £3.50.
Please submit receipts, bank details, and your mother's maiden name in order to make a claim.
Maybe this will make me less cranky, and less likely to use trolling as an outlet for stress? Who knows.
 
That seems unlikely.
 
@fredley In Singapore 3.50 pounds would buy you about 3mL of champagne
 
1:40 PM
@PrivatePansy Same here.
 
Wait a minute. You haven't owned a computer in 2 years?
 
I still don't have any money, but am in a position to actually save some now
@Sterno I have a work computer, which I can take home, so I have had a thing to internet with.
It's 2011 vintage though
 
2011 was a good year for computers.
 
I had a chromebook for a while, but lost it when I got burgled
And we had a windows laptop for a bit, but it broke, and the store lost it instead of repairing it (this situation is ongoing)
Oh yeah, and there was that whole balls thing
TWO THOUSAND AND FIFTEENTH YEAR WORST YEAR
 
@fredley I think Singapore actually has the highest tax on alcohol compared to all Western developed countries
 
1:43 PM
@PrivatePansy In parts of India it's illegal, maybe that counts as a higher tax?
 
> Bad Luck and Extreme Misfortune will infest your pathetic soul for all eternity.
 
You can probably buy twice the amount of champagne in Britain compared to what you can buy here
 
@GraceNote Thank you for your kind words of support
 
@fredley I can quote a lot of countries where it's illegal, but I'm talking about developed countries here
So enjoy your 6mL sip of champagne!
 
Wow, I'm kinda amazed I can't find a youtube clip for that.
At any rate, bigger point - congrats on the victory!
 
1:46 PM
This new monitor looks a lot crisper than my previous one
 
@GraceNote Thanks!
 
Acer XB240H
 
Do you want to say what the dispute was about?
 
@KevinvanderVelden Renewal of the lease. It's very, very complicated, but basically we own a lease for ~88 years for the property, after which it would revert to the freeholder. This is how most flats work in the UK. We are paying to extend our lease by 90 years (protecting our investment in the flat). We have to pay a portion of the value of the flat to the freeholder to do this. The dispute was over how much we should pay (we have ended up paying half what they were asking for).
 
1:50 PM
@KevinvanderVelden It's a totally fucked up system, and we knew all about this when we bought it. The painfulness of this process is how we were even able to buy the place anyway.
 
@fredley heh, makes sense. More pain does tend to drive the price down
 
We had a choice between shitnesses, given the price point we were looking at in London: we could have had a flat overlooking a prison, or a mainline, 24hr train line, or 1hr+ from the centre, but we chose the one with the lease shitness.
@KevinvanderVelden We have endured our pain, now we own a piece of prime London real estate with a very secure lease. Hopefully worth it in the long run.
 
@fredley Was year 88 coming up or something? Are are you just planning for when you're 112?
 
@Sterno he's hoping to live to be half as old as you are
 
@Sterno Soooooooooooo. The issue is that leases with less than 90 years to go are subject to the above conditions on renewal, i.e. you have to pay the freeholder a 'marriage value'. This amount goes up as the length on the lease ticks down, making the property a ticking time-bomb. Investment-wise, it means you're in a bit of trouble as you could well end up losing money on the property, even if house prices go up. By extending by another 90 years (and dealing with all the shitness),
 
1:56 PM
 
if/when we come to sell in a few years time, the lease will be in a much stronger state than when we bought it, adding value, and meaning it's no longer in time-bomb state.
@Sterno Yeah, quite.
 
BRB, going to become a London freeholder
 
That is horrifying
 
> In one case in Knightsbridge, flat-owners were each sent a demand for £14,000 for "major works" to the roof. If you totted up the contributions which had been asked of all leaseholders, it came to an astronomical sum way beyond anything which might reasonably have been spent on repairing a roof. What the money was really for, the leaseholders later found out, was building an extra two flats on the roof — which the freeholder was then going to sell entirely for his own benefit.
 
@GraceNote Yup. And it's not just London, this is flat 'ownership' everywhere in the UK.
Basically any building which you do not own all of, you'll own a lease.
 

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