The Bridge

badp

12:08 AM

ne'ermind

murgatroid99

It's strange that those messages have unclickable star and flag buttons, but the respond button is removed

badp

T__T

murgatroid99

@badp What was the last major gaming release that you would expect to generate a lot of questions?

badp

The T__T is more like for this

murgatroid99

@badp for what?

badp

12:15 AM

That was at or about that Panda update that undid one year's worth of grow

murgatroid99

@badp If you're talking about Google, the Panda update was Feb 2011

Oh wait, I guess there were other panda updates

But I can't find anything about April 2014

badp

Yeah, me neither

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Q: Severe traffic drop for some sites since the last Google algorithm update

The recent update from Google to their search algorithm seems to have hit a few sites rather severely. I can't say for sure that this change is responsible, but the traffic graph from Skeptics looks rather convincing: Traffic dropped by 40% around the time Panda 4.0 rolled out. Gaming SE (Arq...

murgatroid99

But that decline has been continuing ever since. It wasn't just one SEO update

badp

I guess this is the more accurate line but it seems like we recovered that

...and then lost it again

Ah well. Who knows what happened in mid April

user15026

@Ktash I am just about to start s5 because the download finished while i was at work :D

murgatroid99

12:21 AM

My bet is that the primary driver of our lost traffic is a lack of new AAA games that would drive people to the site

badp

@murgatroid99 but then the traffic curve would curve slowly and gently down, would it not?

murgatroid99

@badp Real world data is noisy

There are other games, and people asking questions about games well after they come out

But when's the last time we had a release like Diablo or Skyrim?

Ktash

@murgatroid99 Destiny

@AshleyNunn Yay

murgatroid99

@Ktash Ah, you're right

Ktash

The Chuck one (that's totally what I'm calling it) is good :)

murgatroid99

12:24 AM

Though, the game's pretty simple. There are only 100 questions about it

badp

If you ignore the 2014 seasonal spike it's pretty obvious that the change in angle is pretty sharp

Unionhawk

Wow the 2014 spike was strong

badp

Something definitely did happen...

murgatroid99

@badp That depends on how you draw the lines

I see a downward trend starting at that spike

Unionhawk

Eh

badp

12:26 AM

@murgatroid99 Well the spike is Christmas

There's a spike there every year

Unionhawk

All the kids asking about their newfangled consoles and whatnot

badp

If you want I can use more segments

murgatroid99

Even then, there's a dip before where your line peaks, and it peaks at a value lower than the steady state surrounding christmas

badp

Is there still a doubt in your mind that something must have happened in April?

murgatroid99

@badp No. But that doesn't mean that whatever happened then is still the primary thing affecting our traffic now

It's been 6 months

badp

12:30 AM

I still do wonder what happened in April

also who knows if that small climb up at the very end isn't going to be like the last one

murgatroid99

Where's April 2013 on that chart?

Because it looks to me like it's that peak right before that big dip

badp

With all of the precision that you can get from mspaint and eyeballing

murgatroid99

So maybe that's a seasonal thing

As suggested by a comment on that question you linked

badp

April 2012 and 2013 were growth months

There probably was a promotion in May 2012 which muddles waters

murgatroid99

ME3 came out March 2012

badp

12:34 AM

That's before the line

so... Skyrim?

MW3 vs Skyrim does ring a bell.

but that was probably further on

murgatroid99

Diablo 3 came out May 2012

badp

Oh that's it.

Was there a big Minecraft release at or about April 2014?

murgatroid99

Heart of the Swarm came out March 2013

badp

I've stopped following that game but it was always one of the big boys

MBraedley

@badp 1.7 maybe

murgatroid99

12:36 AM

@MBraedley There were a bunch of 1.7 releases in late 2013 and early 2014

badp

@MBraedley 1.7.9 is the closest

murgatroid99

@badp It is our most popular tag

badp

but I don't think 1.7.9 can have been that big of a deal

also that's the week right before the line

murgatroid99

@badp You might also want to consider 1.8 preview releases

MBraedley

no, it wasn't. bug fixes, mostly

1.8 snapshots had some big things in them.

lots of command block fun that I answered against, for instance.

What's the equivalent of top but for network?

murgatroid99

12:39 AM

I'm noticing, all of our top tags are for games that are at least a year old

MBraedley

on linux of course

murgatroid99

Destiny isn't even in the top 60

MBraedley

@murgatroid99 Is that really surprising?

badp

This is the closest weekly

murgatroid99

@MBraedley Skyrim hit the top 10 within a week of release, I'm nearly positive

I'm arguing that we haven't had a game with that much question potential in a long time

badp

12:40 AM

84

Q: Network usage top/htop on Linux

Is there a htop/top on Linux where I get to sort processes by network usage?

linux networking top-command htop

Unionhawk

Yeah, 1.7.9 is bugfixes and some skin changes, 1.7.7 and 1.7.8 are heartbleed (I think 1.7.6 might be too)

MBraedley

@murgatroid99 That's a special case

badp

14w17a is at or about the drop and was the weekly that introduced customized superflat worlds it seems

not the kind of thing that automatically invalidates all of our Minecraft questions I don't think

murgatroid99

@MBraedley We have 1/5 as many Skyrim questions this month as total Destiny questions

MBraedley

@murgatroid99 The reason it's a special case is that it was part of a pretty big contest.

murgatroid99

12:42 AM

Same with Civ 5, LoL, Dota 2 (almost). With Minecraft we got 1/3 as many questions this week

@MBraedley It's not part of a big contest now

MBraedley

@murgatroid99 No, but there is also a lot of question potential left in it. Not sure how much question potential Destiny started out with, but I would guess it's less than what D3 started out with.

badp

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murgatroid99

@MBraedley That's my entire point. We haven't recently gotten a game with a lot of question potential

And that's my hypothesis for why our traffic is dropping

badp

Game releases next Tuesday...

Yuuki

Hmm... if the atmosphere ignited and killed off all life on earth, would it make a sound?

murgatroid99

12:45 AM

@badp November is a great month for games. That, Halo, Smash

badp

It's probably not going to get more than 100 questions lifetime but I'm still hyped :P

murgatroid99

@Yuuki Absolutely

@badp There are so many interactions, though

badp

@murgatroid99 Hopefully that leads to more interesting answers than rubberstamp questions

murgatroid99

@badp Now I want to know how Mom's knife, Brimstone, and Ipecak interact

badp

WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU GET IPECAC AND MIRROR AND SMALL PLANET AND BRIMSTONE

OKAY WHAT IF CHOCOLATE INSTEAD

murgatroid99

12:47 AM

Plus that cluster bomb item

Actually, I don't really know what Ipecac+Brimstone would be

I really want Brimstone+Wiggle Worm+Mirror+Small Planet

@PrivatePansy Those arrows on the right don't make sense, because you already went through the "No" path for their preconditions

user15026

@murgatroid99 Okay, so it is not just me that finds that confusing

murgatroid99

And apparently, "Chase skirt" is the only possible end condition. Maybe that's supposed to be commentary on his life or something

MBraedley

12:53 AM

@badp I guess I should have further specified that it's for my Drobo.

LessPop_MoreFizz

King of Dragon Pass dev working on a 'spiritual successor', also set in Glorantha!

HYPE

MBraedley

LessPop_MoreFizz

/cc @Wipqozn @JasonBerkan @Fluttershy I'm not sure who else but I'm pretty sure there are others.

Lazers

0

Q: Command Block : Testing For Entities

This might not be possible, but i wanted to see if anybody had an answer before i tried something else. So in one of my worlds, i have a Minecart Command block which, gets triggered as it rides round a track, but What I was wondering is, Is there a way to actually Test For it existing? I have t...

minecraft

murgatroid99

I just found a fantastically divisive user description

Scimonster

1.2k 5 17

feature-request discussion bug ios-app suggested-edits support meta

> I think that using a capital "i" in the middle of a sentence is obsolete. Please don't remove it from my posts.

So tempted

Yuuki

1:04 AM

@murgatroid99 ... huh?

I don't really get what that means exactly.

murgatroid99

@Yuuki He writes sentences like "This is what i found." Note the lowercase 'i'

Yuuki

Oh.

badp

> homeschooled

That's probably it.

:P

Yuuki

Then why doesn't he just say "I don't believe in capitalizing the first-person singular pronoun"?

badp

Dunning–Kruger effect

The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias manifesting in two principal ways: unskilled individuals tend to suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly rating their ability much higher than is accurate, while highly skilled individuals tend to rate their ability lower than is accurate. In unskilled individuals, this bias is attributed to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their ineptitude. Skilled individuals tend to underestimate their relative competence, erroneously assuming that tasks which are easy for them are also easy for others. David Dunning and Justin Kruger...

brain status: emitting methane

murgatroid99

1:07 AM

@badp The most disappointing psychological effect in the world

badp

also the name of one of the top TF2 competitive teams in the world apparently

user15026

@murgatroid99 what

murgatroid99

1 min ago, by badp

> homeschooled

user15026

@badp Which?

badp

@AshleyNunn "Dunning–Kruger effect"

ugcleague.com/team_page.cfm?clan_id=5984

user15026

1:09 AM

Huh, that's what DK stood for. Learned a new thing.

murgatroid99

@badp It just perpetually disappoints me that this means that some incompetent people will not become competent because they are incompetent. And that is sad

badp

@AshleyNunn So many clan tags, so little time

@murgatroid99 I believe it's more like the "clue bat" effect: we all need it swung at us occasionally

murgatroid99

@badp The problem with Dunning-Kruger is that the very people who need that won't recognize it

Also, knowing about Dunning-Kruger makes Imposter Syndrome harder to deal with

badp

user15026

@Ktash @Yuuki OMG STARTED S5 AND OMG THINGS OMG YAY

murgatroid99

1:11 AM

Because there's always that nagging feeling that you suffer from it

Yuuki

@AshleyNunn YAAAAAAAY~

Season 5 was better than Season 6, imo.

user15026

OMG HIS MOOOOOM this ep is going to be AWESOME

Ktash

@AshleyNunn hahaha, off to the races now

badp

oh, now Ars does infinite scrolling for its multi-page articles

That's nice.

I guess it does mean the sub perk of pagination-less browsing is now pointless but oh well

Yuuki

> God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
The courage to change the things I can,
And wisdom to realize that there is no spoon.

murgatroid99

1:25 AM

Well, it's time for dinner

badp

oh nevermind those are forks

CHECKMATE ATHEISTS

Yuuki

So, I'm looking at this Keanu Reeves AMA. It's the first time I've ever seen every top 10-ish-or-so question answered.

MBraedley

@badp It almost feels like that was an accident.

Private Pansy

badp

@MBraedley arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/10/…

Private Pansy

1:28 AM

@Yuuki I think most AMAs have their top questions answered, though it's more likely those questions were voted up after they were answered

badp

@PrivatePansy Her Phoebe costume is pretty bad.

Yuuki

@PrivatePansy Most of the AMAs I've seen have a number of the top 10-or-so most-upvoted questions go unanswered.

Private Pansy

@badp "Hello my name is Phoebe"

LessPop_MoreFizz

Dune Joke Goes Here.

Sterno

Ooooooh yeah! The Dora question is two reopen votes away from being back!

I sometimes find the things linked in here and meant to be funny almost aggressively unfunny, and I get confused.

Probably the same reaction people get to Friday.

badp

1:32 AM

@PrivatePansy I'll be disappointed if she doesn't mention thumblessness at least once

Yuuki

spugsley

@Yuuki :OOOOO

Yuuki

@spugsley This feels like it'd make for an interesting story.

spugsley

1:49 AM

@Yuuki ooo yes

Sterno

What's the difference between everyone speaking telepathically and only some people knowing how to listen, versus some people just being able to read minds?

StrixVaria

@Sterno Speaking telepathically is theoretically very different from having your mind read.

You get to choose what is broadcast vs. the other person gets to choose what he learns.

Also what is this SciFi.SE?

Sterno

@StrixVaria Maybe, but if everyone can speak telepathically but no one knows how to listen, wtf would that even mean? How would anyone know they are speaking telepathically.

Am I speaking telepathically right now?

StrixVaria

Well yeah, that is a meaningless concept.

Kind of like the idea of "what if my red is your blue? We'll never know!"

Sterno

My red is best red.

Yuuki

1:58 AM

@Sterno I was thinking more along the lines of "crazy people hearing voices are actually hearing other people's thoughts" as a good story prompt.

Rather than the parent post itself.

StrixVaria

@Yuuki Is that like that Mel Gibson movie?

Lazers

0

Q: Who was the traitor that sold out Old Hoxton?

Throughout the mission "Hoxton Breakout", Old Hoxton keeps saying lines like "I know who fucking sold me out", "There's a traitor already deep within our group". Does he ever reveal who the traitor is? I haven't completed Second Day yet because it's so hard.

payday-2

Unionhawk

arg no

noew

NOES

user15026

meep?

StrixVaria

@Unionhawk Cheer up

Unionhawk

2:04 AM

This is another goddamn incremental isn't it

I crashed, but I'm back

Origami Robot

2:19 AM

Sterno

Those were some dumb flags

Unionhawk

@Sterno You're a dumb flag

Sterno

@Unionhawk Almost flagged as a joke, but figured it would get validated

7Blue_Beast7

Helllo

What? ^

That was pretty offensive?

Don't say that to everyones mom

trust me

I said it once and I got smacked alost for a day

LessPop_MoreFizz

2:36 AM

Today in Dumb Flag Validation.

7Blue_Beast7

@LessPop_MoreFizz Thats better

And what you mean by that? What happened?

Lazers

0

Q: Clash of clans - Saving local village over Google+ village

I am currently playing Clash of Clans on my Android phone and have gotten fairly far into the game. Far enough to where I would like to connect my village to my Google+ account. The only problem is that my current Google+ account has a Clash of Clans village already loaded onto it with a Town Ha...

clash-of-clans android

spugsley

alright. Time to actually plan some Nanowrimo shit

7Blue_Beast7

@spugsley What is that?

murgatroid99

@7Blue_Beast7 National Novel Writing Month

7Blue_Beast7

2:40 AM

So how the heck he going to get a writing what ever done in a Month?

Never heard of it and don't sound interesting of my level either.

StrixVaria

@7Blue_Beast7 wat

Fluttershy

@spugsley Good luck! :D

spugsley

@7Blue_Beast7 about 33,000 people complete NaNoWriMo each year

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Fluttershy KING OF DRAGON PASS SEEEEQUUEEEEEELLLLL

7Blue_Beast7

@spugsley never heard of it bro!!

I don't think many people heard of it...

Fluttershy

2:45 AM

@LessPop_MoreFizz I have yet to learn how to play the first one!

spugsley

@7Blue_Beast7 not a bro. Definitely a lady. And okay.

@Fluttershy ty :3

Fluttershy

@7Blue_Beast7 That seems like a pretty reasonable generalization to make... <_< Wait.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@7Blue_Beast7 It's fine to be ignorant, not so fine to be aggressively so.

spugsley

@StrixVaria what do you listen to you when you write, if anything?

7Blue_Beast7

@spugsley Ahhh im sorryy.............

spugsley

2:46 AM

I find silence and most music distracting

StrixVaria

@spugsley It depends on my mood.

7Blue_Beast7

I looked at your pic and noticed O^O

Fluttershy

Thrilling Adventure Hour

7Blue_Beast7

@spugsley Look cute btw.... hhehhe

Fluttershy

Also, @LessPop_MoreFizz I can't recall if I told you or not, but... Jackson losing it during the opening was completely worth the wait.

StrixVaria

2:46 AM

I don't usually like writing in silence, but I am right now because my wife doesn't listen to any of the same music as me.

I can literally listen to anything while writing, though. I don't hear lyrics when I listen to music, so it's all just sound.

7Blue_Beast7

@spugsley no offense i think

spugsley

@7Blue_Beast7 just don't.

7Blue_Beast7

@spugsley Im not just complementing u

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Fluttershy Jib Janeen is the best

7Blue_Beast7

@spugsley Whats wrong with silence?

Its not distracting its better than noise lol

StrixVaria

2:48 AM

@7Blue_Beast7 Music can help you focus, depending on the music and the person.

7Blue_Beast7

@StrixVaria oh...

I forgot people are different

3

Guess I was being slefish and too ignorant to realize some peple hate silence and stuff

spugsley

I started using OneNote for planning. I actually really like it

it's helpful

7Blue_Beast7

Or not hate i meant the term "don't like

spugsley

And I started panning like I talk in hopes that I'll give two shits about outlining if I do it that way

StrixVaria

@spugsley Is this free?

spugsley

2:50 AM

@StrixVaria it's part of the Office Suite

StrixVaria

Huh.

spugsley

might be a free app depending on what windows version you have?

Microsoft OneNote. I'm using 2007

Yuuki

StrixVaria

I haven't used any Office stuff in so long.

spugsley

@StrixVaria one note is a lot like Scrivener which I've seen people touting for Nano

it's not quite as fancy, but that's good for me

StrixVaria

2:53 AM

@spugsley I remember using Scrivener. I wonder if I bought it or had some free version.

7Blue_Beast7

Since your a writer @spugsley can you show me what an outlining is or look like?

spugsley

@7Blue_Beast7 hahah sadly, I'm just starting with outlining so I won't be so helpful :)

If I ever get a complete one, I'll gladly give you a look

7Blue_Beast7

@spugsley Sweet

I was hoping to learn from an experienced writer or one who knows more

What? Whats wrong of what I said?

spugsley

@7Blue_Beast7 outlining is even harder than writing, imo

but I have no follow-through. I start shit and then it sits. I'm hoping an outline will help

7Blue_Beast7

Well I have an soial studies project coming up asking me about an outlining

It wants me to creat an outline*

Holy crap my language sucks in english

StrixVaria

2:57 AM

@7Blue_Beast7 What is your native language?

7Blue_Beast7

Portuguese

I don't speak English so well

Is their a different board to speak this in?

StrixVaria

Most communication on SE is done in English.

7Blue_Beast7

:C

Journeyman Geek

@StrixVaria the windows version was free for quite a while I think

StrixVaria

@JourneymanGeek Their site just let me download and install a Windows version right now.

I'm expecting some kind of restriction; will report back.

Journeyman Geek

3:01 AM

ahh, still is then

StrixVaria

There it is.

I wonder if there's some kind of registry magic you can do to get around that.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@StrixVaria Well, if you want to be a filthy pirate there probably is.

StrixVaria

It's more curiosity than any plan I actually have. I was just wondering how they implemented the counter.

Unionhawk

@OrigamiRobot I'm so short and adorable!

Origami Robot

Remember when we fought those stalkers that were 5 levels above us?

Not cool, Borderlands

Unionhawk

3:07 AM

I remember that like it was yesterday!

Lazers

1

Q: can you reset data made in candy box 2?

I made a really good save file in candy box 2 but I want to restart. can you reset candy box 2?

candy-box-2

Unionhawk

@LessPop_MoreFizz That's probably hilarious.

(didn't see it, was playing video games)

Please tell me you got flagged for a urmom

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Unionhawk Indeed.

Unionhawk

That's hilarious

Fluttershy

So... The author of Go the F--k to Sleep is releasing a new book.

Unionhawk

3:11 AM

@OrigamiRobot I think the level scaling is on par so far with how it was in the normal playthrough

Just, no sidequests

Because reasons

Origami Robot

I'm starting to not care about those reasons

Unionhawk

You were also a few levels ahead iirc at that point

Some of them (the 50 white weapons) thing, sure, that'd be good to do at 50

Origami Robot

1 level

Unionhawk

but like a random green shotgun, nope, who cares

Besides, if we really cared, hax are a thing

:P

James

cc @Chippies @Arperum ^^ What is that box?

Unionhawk

3:13 AM

Just l33t haxor your loot to 50 and boom you're golden

Origami Robot

@Unionhawk That's why I'm starting to care less. Also, the grinder is a thing

Unionhawk

Yes

Though that thing takes the average of levels

(rounding down)

Origami Robot

Still, once we're at 50, we'll get level 50 weapons

Unionhawk

True

DwarfSlice

kickdriver.com/r/8khss1YK

Lazers

3:22 AM

0

Q: Is thare a way to farm turtle shells?

I'm trying to make a turtle armor set, but I can't get vary many turtle shells. Is there a faster way to get them?

terraria

Trent Hawkins

@Lazers plant one in the dirt and wait for a turtle shell plant to grow.

DwarfSlice

one day I will run out of pornstars to unfollow on Twitter

Every time I think I got them all more show up in my feed at some point.

spugsley

I am so fucking bad at planning, guys.

LessPop_MoreFizz

Hey Canadians with iThings, any of you playing Seabeard?

Unionhawk

It's okay, I failed 2 NaNos. Then I gave up on things.

DwarfSlice

3:29 AM

@LessPop_MoreFizz no, should I?

@LessPop_MoreFizz dude this looks dope

LessPop_MoreFizz

@DwarfSlice toucharcade.com/2014/10/27/hands-on-with-seabeard

It's Animal Crossing with pirates

Origami Robot

@StrixVaria I wonder if art is a waste of time

DwarfSlice

@LessPop_MoreFizz do you know how big the DL is?

My iPod is full as shit

LessPop_MoreFizz

@DwarfSlice ~100 mb

DwarfSlice

@LessPop_MoreFizz erk

Unionhawk

3:32 AM

DAMN YOU BOTH

if it's any consolation, it looks like this will get boring in 48 hours

Frank

Taking cities in Beyond Earth is a pain in the ass.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Unionhawk It comes out in the states soon

Frank

Especially when garrisoned with another ranged unit.

Unionhawk

@LessPop_MoreFizz No I mean @OrigamiRobot and @StrixVaria

That looks cool

user15026

An hour of fucking about with AC adapters and other phone bits and my phone is charging again so I can go to sleep! Yay!

DwarfSlice

3:34 AM

fucking fucking fuck clicker heroes was open when I put my pc to sleep for the weekend so it didn't advance

again

user15026

(it is the only alarm like thing I have, so I kinda need it.)

7Blue_Beast7

spugsley você conseguiu o seu contorno começou?

@AshleyNunn Why you cussing?

DwarfSlice

cussing is fucking awesome

7Blue_Beast7

I thought your name was GnomeSlice?

DwarfSlice

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@7Blue_Beast7 I changed it.

7Blue_Beast7

3:37 AM

DwarfSlice sounds cool

When are you coming back to game dev DwarfSlice?

DwarfSlice

I posted a pic in there today

@spugsley nodebeat.com

try putting that on and letting it play while you work

user15026

@spugsley I keep thinking I should try NaNo again but I got tired of failing. Would be good for my NSFChat novel plans though maybe.

spugsley

@AshleyNunn I have failed every year haha

it's not fun

but I'mma try again

Unionhawk

Nano is literally the most masochistic writing exercise ever

user15026

@spugsley you are a rockstar. I might try again, just for the heck of it. Because I have time again! Yaaaay!

spugsley

3:41 AM

@Unionhawk amen

DwarfSlice

or not

user15026

Yeah, it's not really my kind of torture ;)

DwarfSlice

@LessPop_MoreFizz Have you had a chance to play Inquisitor yet at all?

user15026

@dwarfslice can you remind me of that node beat thing tomorrow when I am not on mobile?

DwarfSlice

@AshleyNunn Yes. You can also get it on android. :)

user15026

3:43 AM

Wicked, thanks. :D

DwarfSlice

nodebeat is awesome

I haven't since I moved out because I don't have my clockradio, but I used to use it at night when I was sleeping

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Hey kid

I'm a computer

Unionhawk

What.

DwarfSlice

@Unionhawk Stop all the downloadin!

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