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@KrzysztofTrzos tak, ale Letharion nie, so please use english if possible and only fall back to Polish when we can't communicate clearly in English, OK? :)

Krzysztof Trzos

12:08 PM

@Mołot Yeah, sure. So... problem about drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/135682/…

Letharion

I won't be terribly offended if I don't understand what you say ;)
And it's not like there's a ton of other people in here either.

Mołot

You want to know what permission you need to give to role, so it can see links, right?

Krzysztof Trzos

@Mołot I can't see Drupal Commerce configuration page in my custom created menu (which is set as admin menu for particulars user role).

Mołot

Dobra, pytanie czy człowiek z daną rolą może zobaczyć tą stronę jak wklei odpowiednią ścieżkę wprost w pasek adresu?

Jeśli nie, to jest to kwestia uprawnień, jeśli tak - menu.

Krzysztof Trzos

Widzi ją

I ma dostęp

Dlatego tego nie rozumiem :D

Mołot

12:09 PM

Czyli to NIE jest kwestia uprawnień

Krzysztof Trzos

Widzi też dostęp do innych, niektórych ścieżek commerce'a

jak np. admin/commerce/products

Mołot

Dlatego nie łapałem pytania - pytasz o uprawnienia, ale to nie jest ich wina w tym przypadku, bo Drupal pokazuje w menu stronę, o ile uprawnienie jest OK.

Krzysztof Trzos

Ale do admin/commerce/config bądź admin/commerce już nie :/

Mołot

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A: How do I call the menu_rebuild function in Drupal 7?

Open the database schema, then delete all contents of menu_links and menu_router tables with the following SQL queries: DELETE FROM menu_links; DELETE FROM menu_router; Then run http://example.com/update.php. It will call menu_rebuild(), which will populate these tables with 'fresh' data. It w...

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@Letharion trick is - links to admin/commerce/products in menu are visible, but links to admin/commerce/config and admin/commerce are not. User can paste them manually to the address bar and have access, he simply does not see menu items. Any ideas?

(Custom menu, items created manually)

Letharion

Any custom rendering of the menu happening?

Internals of the menu system are largely beyond me unfortunately :/

Mołot

12:17 PM

For me it "just worked" if permissions was all right. Sometimes hard wipe was needed (just like I linked above), but that's all. @KrzysztofTrzos jakieś moduły wpływają na renderowanie menu? Albo może inna templatka dla niektórych stron? Cokolwiek czym mogą się różnić?

Krzysztof Trzos

Nope, no custom rendering. This custom menu is set as admin menu for particular user role with "Administration Menu Source" module.

Mołot

Have you tried the rebuild i linked?

Letharion

I guess creating a new menu from scratch accessible to everyone would be a useful test to narrow the problem down, but other than that, I don't really know.

Mołot

> But be aware, that it will wipe out all you custom menus which you will have to rebuild manually.

So if you try, you'll need to export menu, do wipe, and re-import it

Krzysztof Trzos

I used menu_rebuild() function. Didn't worked.

Mołot

12:21 PM

Any memecached running, maybe?

Krzysztof Trzos

Couple of times

Mołot

sometimes when my menu seems "stuck", I logout, drush cc menu and service memcached restart - helps. Kills your performance for few minutes, but helps

Unless you have form cache and sessions in memcached, then your users get angry

But then, they don't notice missing menu item anyway ;)

If that does not help, I give up for now, sorry. Will ping you if I'll have any other idea

Krzysztof Trzos

Well... i set this user as superadmin and he saw this options. After reversing his role to old one, the menu item is gone...

Maybe it is because of some permissions...?

But... he have access to page, so... :/

Mołot

How exactly does this menu item look like? can you paste a screen from it? It looks like some permission being misinterpreted

Krzysztof Trzos

Nothing specjal....
http://i.imgur.com/uK6f3Yo.png

special*

Mołot

12:29 PM

  $items['admin/commerce'] = array(
    'title' => 'Store',
    'description' => 'Administer your store.',
    'page callback' => 'system_admin_menu_block_page',
    'access arguments' => array('access administration pages'),
    'file path' => drupal_get_path('module', 'system'),
    'file' => 'system.admin.inc',
    'weight' => -7,
  );
  $items['admin/commerce/config'] = array(
    'title' => 'Configuration',
    'description' => 'Configure settings and business rules for your store.',
    'page callback' => 'system_admin_menu_block_page',

Nothing special either

Krzysztof Trzos

yeah... saw that...

"access administration pages" perm is set for this roles, so dk why it's not working ^^

Mołot

Do you have a custom module there, to prototype things?

Krzysztof Trzos

You asking how the custom menu was created?

Mołot

I'd try hook_admin_paths() to mark these paths as non-admin ones and see.

I'm asking if you can quickly add some hook implementations

Like in the line above.

Krzysztof Trzos

Yeah, I can. I'll check that hook... gimme a mom...

Didn't worked. Page is displayed as non-administrative but it still not available via my custom menu..

Mołot

12:35 PM

Not a fix, but maybe it'll be a workaround. And if so, we'll know one bit of information more.

OK

so it is not about access to admin pages

Krzysztof Trzos

yeah..

Mołot

curiouser and curiouser

Mołot

12:49 PM

@Letharion on the unrelated topic, when you create "option list", in select field, webform etc, you use "value | text to display" format for elements, right? Are there built-in functions for such configuration?

Letharion

@Mołot I don't think I understand the question. Are you asking about the underlying php function that implement the UI behavior?

It's funny, one'd think the two of us knew how to produce flawless questions by now, closing so many unclear questions ;) But I don't understand your, and my question here: https://drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/135597/how-do-i-in-code-add-new-field-values-to-a-d8-content-entity immediately got a complaint (with an upvote) that the question was unclear. >_<

Mołot

@Letharion Well, that's why I asked you here. Now I know I don't know exactly how to say what I want ;)

In Webform module, when you configure select list, you see this instruction:

Key-value pairs MUST be specified as "safe_key|Some readable option". Use of only alphanumeric characters and underscores is recommended in keys. One option per line. Option groups may be specified with <Group Name>. <> can be used to insert items at the root of the menu after specifying a group.

Is it Webform specific, or something in Core Webform simply uses, and I can use, too?

Letharion

@Mołot Makes sense ;)
Doesn't core use the same thing for textfields with options widgets? Or something similar. And with that I'm trying to say that I think it's in core and you can use it with or without webform.

Mołot

> Doesn't core use the same thing for textfields with options widgets?

Yes, as far as I can see

Letharion

I was actually looking for that particular feature in D8 this weekend, but didn't see it. Not sure if I had something turned off, or if it's been ripped out.

Mołot

1:00 PM

Well, I can't find it in Drupal 7 API

I was sure it's there

but I fill blind / dumb today

Letharion

To little coffee ;)

Mołot

No. Too much painkillers

:|

In theory deep 2nd degree burn is enough to go on sick leave, but I didn't want that

Letharion

Ah, of course.
Well, fwiw, sick leave is useful in preventing long term illness, even if one can work.

Perhaps you are looking for:

list_field_settings_form in modules/field/modules/list/list.module

Line 79:
$description = '<p>' . t('The possible values this field can contain. Enter one value per line, in the format key|label.');

Mołot

oh

Thanks

looks like it, I'll work from that

If I can't use it, I always can copy it

Letharion

Exactly. :)

Mołot

1:07 PM

Hydrocolloid dressing should be enough to prevent long-term problems. And it's not like you can get burns from co-workers like you can get cold ;)

Unless you work in kitchen, or with solder, or something, of course ;)

Letharion

@Mołot No, of course.

In Sweden, one doesn't get paid on the first day of sick leave, but on the days following.
Norway recently decided that one should be paid from day 1. The reason was that they should show that people staying home often but briefly caused a reduction in long term illness.
So that's what I was thinking off.

Presumably it depends a lot on what the illness is though, and as you say, what line of work one is in.

Mołot

@Letharion here we get paid for each day, but if illness was not caused by work or accident between one's home and work, we only get 80% of our regular wages.

Workplace accidents, accidents when going to work, and occupation illnesses - 100%

@Letharion this is supposed to discourage people from risky behaviors that leads to long-time sick leave. And it seems it works

20% of one day is not much, 20% of one month is quite something

Letharion

1:22 PM

True.

Mołot

api.drupal.org/api/drupal/…

Good, I need to find a save handler, too, and I'm done ;)

Letharion

@Mołot Awesome. Gonna use this new knowledge trying to work out if this works in D8 aswell later.

Have you looked at D8?

Mołot

Year ago. Was too far from ready. Haven't since then

Not enough time, I became quite a busy guy ;) 6 hours of kung-fu wushu training a week, beermaking, photography, it all takes time :d

8 hours of Drupal per day, 5 days a week, was quite tnough, but we are at 7 now.

Mołot

1:54 PM

@Letharion OK, got it:

[`list_allowed_values_setting_validate`](https://api.drupal.org/api/drupal/modules!field!modules!list!list.module/function/list_allowed_values_setting_validate/7) as validator

[`list_extract_allowed_values`](https://api.drupal.org/api/drupal/modules!field!modules!list!list.module/function/list_extract_allowed_values/7) as save handler

[`list_allowed_values_string`](https://api.drupal.org/api/drupal/modules!field!modules!list!list.module/function/list_allowed_values_string/7) to prepare configuration field

Letharion

@Mołot 6 hours of martial arts, cool. :) Been years since I did that, I just recently found a Kung-Fu club nearby, but they had come to far into their semester to want to take in new people. Might try again after the new year.

@Mołot Awesome. Maybe you should ask the question now, and then answer it yourself ;)

Mołot

2:12 PM

@Letharion about kung-fu - I'm barely beginning. Start of my 3rd year... And now break until my hand heals. I'll consider asking and answering once I'll have my code up and running. Too soon for it now. I think I got it, but I don't know yet

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