The Periodic Table

11:42 AM

they do all of that

sure

but unless OP provides the definitions of all these activities

discovering means finding new molecules in, e.g., algae/bacteria's metabolism or whatever

I'm ready to close the question

:D

@PH13, things are the way you define them,

Unless defined a word does not have any meaning.

but they have defined meanings by common dictionaries, right?

discover: to be the first person to become aware that a particular place or thing exists; to find sb/sth that was hidden or that you did not expect to find; to find out about sth; to find some information about sth

no matter which one of those definitions you choose, they are all right

the all are synonyms according to Oxford dict, as I mentioned

11:46 AM

lol

if someone would like to make a particular distinction

he/she is free to do it

but they have to stress these important (from their point of view) differences explicitly

otherwise the discussion is meaningless

sure

Just tell me

do you feel any difference between

Nobel invented dynamite, created it, or discovered it?

I don't.

I'm fine with all three.

I think there are differences, yes

If you think so, then you have to stress these differences,obviously.

For me they are all the same. :D

11:53 AM

for me, create in this context means sth like synthesis

so I can create stuff that has been discovered before

to discover does not mean that sth was invented before but only that it was unknown before

but sth that is invented needs to be discovered and modified or to be created

the problem with this

is that these are your own defs

\o @Beta

Hey, you wouldn't mind helping me with a problem I'm having, would you?

Welcome to our chatroom!

@BetaDecay try it ^^

11:58 AM

@BetaDecay Go on. I'm eating lunch, but @Wildcat and @Ph13 are available.

Haha alright, recently I performed a reaction of siloxene and cerium(iv) sulphate. I've tried looking online for any further information about it, but there isn't anything

please hold the line ... the next mentor will be available soon .... please hold the line ...

makes some curious melody

If it helps, the reaction created a yellow chemiluminescent substance

what exactly was the reaction and what is your question?

what is >it< for which you want further information?

good-ol' chemistry...

12:02 PM

g'old ? ;D

Well that's the problem, I don't know what the reaction was, so I want to find information about what happens when siloxene reacts with cerium(iv) sulphate

I step back

:D

sure it's siloxene? I know siloxane the other one I have to google now

@BetaDecay, sounds like a good question.

Post it!

@Wildcat only if there is more information provided than here

otherwise it's too broad, isn't it?

12:04 PM

@PH13, to start from, I think, it is enough.

then go on @BetaDecay

I mixed A and B under this conditions. Then I observed this and that.

What happened?!

:D

then suddenly a meteor hit the spot

:O

And life began...

Haha well when you mix the siloxene and cerium(iv) sulphate, the resulting chemical glows a bright yellow light. And that's it

12:06 PM

@Wild kitty is really amazed today.

I would have thought a question like this would be off topic on SE though

Why?

as I said, it could be off-topic due to "too broad" ... but that's my personal opinion and as @Wildcat said, he would not think so ... give it a try

I've still got the full method if that helps

@PH13 There have been a lot of questions like this answered back at chem.

12:08 PM

Including synthesis of the siloxene

@BetaDecay Please don't leave any detail behind!

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M perfect

Purrfect?

exactly

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Sure, I'll work on the question later :)

12:11 PM

books.google.de/…

this sounds as if this could be sth to investigate on

-> chemiluminescent indicator

books.google.co.uk/…

I think that might answer my questions

Thanks @PH13 :)

12:32 PM

i have another source

@BetaDecay

Chemiluminescence during the reaction of siloxene with cerium(IV) sulfate
By: Grigorenko, F. F.; Dubovenko, L. I.

The intensity of luminescence of siloxene (polymd. siloxane (Si6O3H6)n) in the presence of Ce(IV) is greater in H2SO4 than in HCl or HNO3. It also is max. if the ratio of siloxene to Ce(IV) is one Si6O3H6 unit per ion. A scale for detg. Ce is prepd. by adding 0.05 to 0.35 ml. 0.002M Ce(SO4)2 to enough M H2SO4 contg. 0.02 g. siloxene to make 2 ml. The cuvette is placed before the window of the photomultiplier before mixing. The max. in the light emission is plo…

but I don't have access to this, so this is all, scifinder wants to give me

pH is sourcy today.

a little

maybe @Wildcat can haz more insight in this article?

Well you've been a great help. I'm just typing up the method now, so I can ask the question

Do ask!

do ask!

12:36 PM

!ksa od

now there is profound research to back up the question

make it so!

urgent

!

need question til tomorrow!

!ʞƨɒ oᗡ

for HALP

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M ¡ʞƨɒ oᗡ

@BetaDecay Do ɐƨʞ¡

12:40 PM

!ɿɘƚƚɒʜɔ ɘmoƨɘwɒ ~~luʇwɒ~~ nɒ ƨi @inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

No I'm not.

ಠ_ಠ

!ƚodƚɒ(ʜ)ɔ ɒ ƨi @inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M ɘdyɒM

Definitely.

Q: Difference in acid strength of ethanedioic acid and propanedioic acid

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Despite very similar skeletal structures, the difference in acid strength is quite significant. What is the reason for that? It seems that the inductive effect plays a role, but how can we explain the inductive effect in ethanedioic acid as there is same group on opposite sides? How does th...

organic-chemistry acid-base

the images need to be bigger

I mean .. I can hardly identify what is drawn there

ಠ_ಠ

ಠ_ಠ

reaction-mechanism reaction

12:48 PM

Done ;D

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Q: Why does this luminesce?

Not long ago, I performed a reaction between siloxene and cerium(IV) sulphate. When the two were mixed, the mixture produced an orange-yellow glow. WHy did these glow, though? What is it about the two chemicals in particular that makes this happen? Method for synthesising siloxene: Careful...

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+1'd. ಠ_ಠ

Now should I welcome you to chem.SE?

ಠ_ಠ

If you want :)

do it!

take tour, blablabla

;D

Hmm . . .

[tour]

ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) It doesn't work.

ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) y u no haz power?

12:53 PM

Oh yeah I get a badge for that don't I? ;)

yes

I'm from PPCG where we're all rep whores

You are? Sounds like fun.

Haha if you can program you should give it a visit sometime

Too bad I don't. :(

12:55 PM

that's maybe sth for @Wildcat

I mean hey, I'm just 16! Not many people love codez at this age here.

Hey hey, I'm 16 too

@PH13 I think I saw No cats allowed in their tour page.

We've got llamas and doorknobs, why not cats

@BetaDecay But you aren't an Iranian are you?

12:57 PM

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Me? Noo, Welsh

and when will be your independence voting?

18 in Wales and England

I think they lowered it to 16 in Scotland, not sure

ok .. no, I meant something similar to scotland

facepalm

the voting for independence from uk

1:00 PM

Wales will never survive on its own

So I have no idea

as a german, I have to say: my english is not the yellow from the egg ... actually it is under all pig

@Loong and @Martin-マーチン will get it ... not many else :D

Gets it

@PH13 .

Tears of being left out from an inside joke

@Loong

@BetaDecay Same goes here.

1:02 PM

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Where are you from?

The universe.

:O

I know. It's disturbing.

Blast, too late

@BetaDecay @inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M ithinkispider.com these are german saying that are translated literally into english ... so that's funny for germans only

1:04 PM

@BetaDecay I that you?

@BetaDecay see:

Lübke English

The term Lübke English (or, in German, "Lübke-Englisch") refers to nonsensical English created by literal word-by-word translation of German phrases, disregarding differences between the languages in syntax and meaning. Lübke English is named after Heinrich Lübke, a president of Germany in the 1960s, whose limited English made him a target of German humorists. For example, it was alleged that Lübke said to Queen Elizabeth II when they were waiting for a horse race to start: Lübke's statement: Equal goes it loose." The sentence Lübke had in mind: "Gleich geht es los." Meaning of the statement: ...

@Loong Reference-Superhero

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Yep. I died my hair the colour of the rainbow

should get badged

@Loong Hah, you can't reply with an empty message.

1:05 PM

@PH13 I was quite surprised that there is an English article on this topic.

@Loong Equal goes it loose ... I'm dying xD

@PH13 You can say you to me.

xD

my lovely mister singing club!

As if nonsense wasn't already cluterring up in the g-block.

2

now it swapped over

I killed the chat :O

1:11 PM

Yes you did. MURDERER!

GUARDS, SEIZE HIM.

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M There is no "SEIZE" in my mod tools.

I was talking to SE devs.

2 days ago, by PH13

@Loong german-japanese robotic super moderators only

but He-who-must-not-be-named has feierabend and said sth about hunger games

Wait.

He-who-must-not-be-named isn't equal to @Martin, sometimes.

1:18 PM

are you sure?

No, I'm inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M.

now I got it ... it was confusing to think that you were sure

1:45 PM

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M ( ಠ ಠ )

Is that ninja ಠ_ಠ?

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M ಠ▃ಠ

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M 눈_눈

I don't know ... they haz no descriptionz

but they looked funny and then I thought that it would be unresponsible to hide them from you

@PH13 I think that's mustache ಠ_ಠ.

no way

@PH13 Irresponsible!

1:48 PM

ఠ ͟ಠ $\leftarrow$ mustache under the eye?

No, that's a one-eye monster with a fish beside it.

Their name was cyclops right?

xD

(ಠ ∩ಠ)

That's a ಠ_ಠ who's been punched from under the lower jaw.

＼(〇O〇)／

Hippalectryon

LALALALALALALA

HELLOOOO

1:53 PM

@PH13 ?

vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/simpsons/images/8/87/…

bonjour @Hippalectryon

@Loong might be xD

Hullo @Hipp!

Hippalectryon

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M What happened to your bootiful molecule q_q

@Hippalectryon @PH13 stepped on it.

Hippalectryon

:((

You forgot to protect it

1:58 PM

You can't protect anything from @PH13.

Not even your body's enzymes.

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M ლ(ಠ益ಠლ why u no step away then?

@PH13 I like to be crushed, makes me giggle.

@Loong $\omega$-bonds in proteins ... sources ... now ... FAST ... URGENT ... HALP ♥

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M then don't make your complaints sound like complaints

I'm not complaining ̿ ̿'̿'\̵͇̿̿\з=(•_•)=ε/̵͇̿̿/'̿'̿ ̿

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M then what is this?

2:03 PM

It's a sentence.

Oh, wait, no, it's a chat message.

you should think about changing from pharma-whatever to se-chat-teacher

Who's going to pay me?

chat.se?

@chat.se are you going to pay me?

No response.

LIES!

chat.se is speechless by your sheer competence

2:57 PM

echo

o. o. o. o.

3:27 PM

@PH13 Thank God we didn't get this.

maybe they migrate it if you ask

I must favorite this question ... there must be good answers xD

Well, it's a masterpiece.

4:37 PM

no one wants to answer it ... :C

Answer what?

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M this fancy question that you showed me

Oh, the question about blessing?

if you call it so

@PH13 "Porn" in Thai means "blessing".

4:42 PM

do I want to know why you know this?

No, you don't.

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

> @Dam knows.
> Oh, in Thai, "porn" means blessing. :P

I found it out about a month ago in ELL's chatrooms.