Off topic is on topic.

Richard

10:48 PM

Off topic what?

Wad Cheber

Everything.

Dr R Dizzle

By talking about off-topic things, are we not technically on-topic?

Richard

How can everything be off topic?

Wad Cheber

So we can talk about whatever without clogging other rooms.

Dr R Dizzle

Which would make us off-topic. Which would make us on-topic. Which would...

Wad Cheber

10:49 PM

room topic changed to Off topic is on topic.: Read the name. (no tags)

Better?

Dr R Dizzle

@WadCheber That just raises further questions!

Wad Cheber

@Richard, are you sure a mod invalidated the flag?

Himarm

that first mod said he invalidated 3 flags

norman?

Richard

@WadCheber - Yes.

user132126

What the hell happened?

Wad Cheber

10:52 PM

DVK killed chat

Richard

@WadCheber - DVK and some idiot mod killed chat

Then shog had a tantrum

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Feeds

Wad Cheber has added Richard to the list of this room's owners.

Richard

And froze the room

Himarm

didnt he just have a converstaion with kale today, or was that a differentmod

Axelrod

Most Eisley

It isn't 100% Eisley, but nearly. Off Topic "with blackjack an...

Richard

10:53 PM

@Himarm - Different mod, I think

Himarm

he was in the room for something earlier

Dr R Dizzle

Considering the fact that we are meant to look for Community Mods for guidance, it's kind of amazing that they have never descalated a situation. All they seem to do is make the signal/noise ratio worse, which makes everyone more tense.

Himarm

in Mos Eisley, 7 hours ago, by Shog9

I do have to admit, Kale is ok in kimchi

he was totally in the room

having an off topic convo

SQB

Watching the news. 60+ deaths so far.

user132126

@SQB Just heard about this.

Himarm

10:54 PM

the CM's are actually paid yes?

Wad Cheber

@DrRDizzle I don't know if that's entirely true, but okay.

user132126

thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/11/13/…

Dr R Dizzle

@WadCheber That's my experience.

Himarm

you guys had to come spy on us in the off topic room?

ArtOfCode

I can lurk invisibly if you prefer. Though I'm not about to come along and destroy this chat, it's a nice place you got here.

Dr R Dizzle

10:58 PM

@ArtOfCode Would be shame if something... happened to it.

SQB

How about we open up Ten Forward again for civilised site chat and Mos Eisley for fun.

Richard

@DrRDizzle /kicks the walls. "Awfully flammable, these wooden panels..."

ArtOfCode

@DrRDizzle Won't be this mod that presses the make something happen button while the discussions are civil :)

user132126

I don't understand why I even have to be in these alternative rooms. What did I do?

Axelrod

@Himarm It had no particular topic.

Wad Cheber

10:59 PM

@Richard I thought that said "licks the walls". Shades of Shnozberries.

Axelrod

@ArtOfCode That's the spirit

Wad Cheber

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user132126

Anyway, apparently I have a bulging cervical disc

phantom42

wtf did you guys do now

Richard

@CreationEdge - That sounds fantastic.

Wad Cheber

11:00 PM

@phantom42 Star board.

SQB

@WadCheber can't read the star board from mobile. What was on it?

user132126

@Richard The great news is that I have to wait until after this semester ends to get treatment.

SQB

And why did the mods care?

user132126

Even though I missed almost this entire week of work and school because of pain

phantom42

/sighs

Richard

11:02 PM

@CreationEdge - Have you tried hanging from a rope while a small asian man punches you repeatedly in the back?

Wad Cheber

@phantom42 Also, Shog got flagged. And it was validated.

Axelrod

I flagged him.

Wad Cheber

It was actually valid, but I wouldn't have done it.

Axelrod

Censorship, etc, etc. I'm out of pontification points.

Dr R Dizzle

@Axelrod As did I.

hichris123

11:03 PM

You do realize this conversation isn't helping your case one bit?

user132126

@Richard I don't have access to any deep pits of despair. Not... literal ones, anyway.

Shog9

@Himarm that was actually deescalation. Just so you know it next time you see it, @DrRDizzle

Changing the topic is the best course of action when folks can't handle the discussion they're engaging in.

SQB

Messages from the hostages inside the concert hall indicate the terrorists are executing the hostages.

Dr R Dizzle

@Shog9 I have never been in a situation where the mod flood hasn't made everything worse. Today is no exception.

SQB

God dammit.

phantom42

11:04 PM

tool has announced a 2016 tour

Axelrod

It went on for literally ten messages. We'll never know what they could have handled, @Shog9

Wad Cheber

Where's Joshua when you need him?

Shog9

@DrRDizzle sure you have. You just don't remember them because they ended quietly.

Dr R Dizzle

@SQB That's awful. I hate people.

phantom42

does joshua work in other rooms?

Axelrod

11:04 PM

When the mods outnumber the actual participants, you should probably ignore us.

phantom42

he has to be specifically configured, right?

Wad Cheber

@phantom42 I dunno.

user132126

@SQB UGH.

user132126

Why is this terrorism happening in Europe more often, now? What changed?

Richard

@CreationEdge - ISIS

@CreationEdge - Open borders

Axelrod

11:06 PM

^ That.

ArtOfCode

@phantom42 Yes.

Richard

@hichris123 - We aren't trying to make a case

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Wad Cheber

Can someone explain why the news feels a need to tell me that the chick from Hunger Games tripped?

user132126

"5:57 PM EST– French President Francois Hollande has announced the country will close its borders in response to the attack. Security sources say shutting all of France’s borders will be a tall task:"

phantom42

@WadCheber because it's what's important to people who feel the need to know that jennifer aniston is dieting this week.

user132126

11:08 PM

@WadCheber I stopped watching most news when a channel went from somber "Local man dies in Afghanistan" to chipper "7 great new makeup tips" without so much as a segue.

Axelrod

@CreationEdge And then the radicals will say that the West hates them and more of them will join the people who made this possible.

Dr R Dizzle

@CreationEdge That isn't going to help the Syrian Refugees who need places to stay. France had agreed to take about 24,000 or something.

Axelrod

@DrRDizzle It's a tactic used by Hamas.

Kick the hornet's nest, blame the hornets for responding.

Reap the benefits.

ryan

On another sad news related event, there was a 7.0 earthquake in Japan today as well

Dr R Dizzle

@ryan Wow, today sucks.

First Mos Eisley, and now all this?!!?

Wad Cheber

11:11 PM

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Axelrod

Trying to think of a T word that has maybe 3 letters and is offensive.

Wad Cheber

@Axelrod Tacos.

phantom42

i vote that we just open up a separate room for all political/religious discussions. go fight elsewhere

Axelrod

@WadCheber You f|||||| tacos.

Wad Cheber

"Fish Tacos"

Axelrod

11:12 PM

@phantom42 Who's fighting?

Dr R Dizzle

@phantom42 "The Galactic Senate"

phantom42

we can call the room "flag bait"

@Axelrod in general, not right at this moment

Wad Cheber

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phantom42

how many days do we have the damned gun control argument over and over?

Axelrod

@phantom42 I recommend Most Eisley, but I'm biased.

phantom42

11:13 PM

then crap like this.

Wad Cheber

@phantom42 I figured this could be that room.

phantom42

that's fine. we can convert one. point just being, get it out of the main room

Wad Cheber

I sincerely hope that today's debacle doesn't push Slytherincess over the "I don't want to be a room owner" edge.

phantom42

holy crap i just scrolled back in the main room

Wad Cheber

@phantom42 Yeah.

Apparently, Slytherincess can still talk in Mos Eisley.

ArtOfCode

11:16 PM

@WadCheber ROs and mods.

ryan

@phantom42 yea seeing the 200 removed messages is shocking

ArtOfCode

"Some of the hostages have escaped from the concert hall."

user132126

Man, this is redonk. My "two-day" shipping from Amazon is on day 3. They say it'll be here today, but UPS says it'll be Monday. Grrr.

Axelrod

@CreationEdge That actually lightened my mood. I'm sorry for your misfortune.

Wad Cheber

@ArtOfCode And Obie.

ArtOfCode

11:19 PM

@WadCheber Aye, and Obie. But feeds are weird.

user132126

@Axelrod I can't focus on all this tragedy right now, so back to my own issues

ArtOfCode

They're like the chat equivalent of the Community moderator.

Wad Cheber

@ArtOfCode Since you're here, what would happen if Obie got flagged? Has it ever happened?

Can he be kicked out?

Richard

@WadCheber - Nothing. I've tried it

ArtOfCode

@WadCheber Probably could get suspended, to be honest. I certainly have a suspend button on its account.

Wad Cheber

11:20 PM

@ArtOfCode That's hilarious.

ArtOfCode

@WadCheber Aye, I can suspend it but I can't kick it.

user132126

I love how iconic Batman is.

user132126

Scrolling through Amazon video and my 2 yo recognized the 1966 Batman correctly as Batman and Robin

Axelrod

@CreationEdge Show him the gif of batman with a bomb.

Wad Cheber

When Mos Eisley is reopened, there is going to be a never-ending wall of Obie vomit.

Axelrod

11:23 PM

Adam West in one picture.

user132126

And insisted we watch it, so no I'm watching Adam West Batman

ryan

@Richard, with France closing it's boarder does that mean schengen visa's will stop working there?

Feeds

Wad Cheber has added phantom42 to the list of this room's owners.

Wad Cheber

@phantom42 - If you want to convert a room, use this one. I don't care what it is called.

Richard

@ryan - They can't close their borders. It would be a treaty violation

phantom42

11:25 PM

@WadCheber .k. we can discuss after the main room is unfrozen. we need somewhere to hang till then

Dr R Dizzle

@Richard They HAVE closed their borders.

Wad Cheber

Besides, if the border was closed, how could they deport thousands of Roma every year?

Axelrod

So.. a bit early in, but this strikes me as a false flag attack.

At least until they say what they want.

Wad Cheber

(Yes, I know that "closed" means "no entry, conditional exit", not "no crossing the border in either direction")

Dr R Dizzle

@Richard Probably just to stop the perpetrators from fleeing the country, but still.

@Axelrod nice.

@Axelrod It's a terrorist attack, they want to cause terror. There are no demands.

Axelrod

11:27 PM

@DrRDizzle You know that "terror" is secondary.

Richard

@WadCheber - They've closed their border exits. You can still get into France if you travel via Eurotunnel

Wad Cheber

@Richard That's why I edited in "conditional exit"

Dr R Dizzle

@Axelrod No it isn't. It's literally just to cause terror.

Wad Cheber

I'm sure you can leave if you meet certain requirements.

Axelrod

@DrRDizzle Reality and dictionaries don't often converge.

Richard

11:29 PM

@DrRDizzle - Yup. The aim is to cause mayhem and a backlash.

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Dr R Dizzle

@Axelrod But this is what is happening. They aren't going to make demands, because the point is "We can get you anywhere".

Axelrod

The backlash, these days, is often the desired thing.

The days of bombing a country's naval base just because they want to stop you from warring with China are over.

Dr R Dizzle

@Axelrod So why would there be demands in that case?

Axelrod

@DrRDizzle Because sometimes it needs more than just an attack to make a message.

ryan

Not demands so much as drawing attention to themselves and their political message

Dr R Dizzle

11:32 PM

@Axelrod And that, to you, means that you feel that it is a false flag attack? That France planned this for some reason?

Axelrod

Bingo.

@DrRDizzle I didn't say it was France.

Dr R Dizzle

@Axelrod You're a donut.

Axelrod

It could be anyone who would want to hurt either the refugees or ISIS.

Richard

@Axelrod - You're a total doughnut.

I'm picturing you sitting around at home wearing a foil hat and reading books about MK Ultra

Dr R Dizzle

Oh god, I searched "false flag" on Twitter and found the worse of humanity. Don't do it.

@Richard To be fair, MK Ultra turned out to be a real thing.

Wad Cheber

11:34 PM

@DrRDizzle You're a cantaloupe.

Dr R Dizzle

@WadCheber You're a knuckle head McSpazatron

Richard

@DrRDizzle - No. It. Didn't.

ryan

I mean how many people in the US had heard of al-qaeda and their politics before 9/11? There were no "demands" in that situation just a desire to say "look we are a power and we can hurt you, this is what we stand for".

Wad Cheber

@DrRDizzle The way "false flag" is used today makes me have a knee jerk reaction to seeing it in any context.

Axelrod

@Richard Picture me however you want. False flag attacks are a thing, and have been used throughout history.

Dr R Dizzle

11:35 PM

@Richard Literally did though.

phantom42

Richard

@DrRDizzle - In the sense that the CIA tried to engage with mind-control. There's no major indication that they were in any way successful

Axelrod

@WadCheber And that's probably where Richard's coming from. Knee jerk reactions because we've changed how something is perceived.

Dr R Dizzle

@Richard Wait, do people think it worked?

Axelrod

@Richard A conspiracy theory doesn't have to end on an ominous tone.

Wad Cheber

11:36 PM

Richard

Project MKUltra

Project MKUltra—sometimes referred to as the CIA's mind control program—was the code name given to an illegal program of experiments on human subjects, designed and undertaken by the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). Experiments on humans were intended to identify and develop drugs and procedures to be used in interrogations and torture, in order to weaken the individual to force confessions through mind control. Organized through the Scientific Intelligence Division of the CIA, the project coordinated with the Special Operations Division of the U.S. Army's Chemical Corps. The program...

Wad Cheber

HAL 9000 has been very active today.

Axelrod

cracked.com/…

Dr R Dizzle

@Axelrod Ah, Cracked. The Most Reliable Website on the Internet TM

Axelrod

@DrRDizzle The only comedy site since 1895.

SQB

11:39 PM

@Axelrod has there ever been a terrorist attack that actually was a false flag?

Wad Cheber

How did Cracked go from being a half assed, unfunny knockoff of MAD to being one of the funniest sites on the interwebs?

Dr R Dizzle

@Axelrod Cracked went to shit about 3 years ago or so. It's just awful now.

Richard

@SQB - Suez

Axelrod

@SQB en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag#Project_TP-Ajax

Actually, just look at the whole page.

Wad Cheber

@SQB Nazi false flag in Poland, used to justify an outright invasion, sparking the outbreak of WWII in Europe?

Okay, it appears that tomorrow, Mos Eisley will be full of Obie vomit about questions by a user named zipquincy.

Axelrod

11:43 PM

And all about one series too.

Wad Cheber

All of which are related to something called octavia-butler

steelerfan

What did you guys do now? ;)

Wad Cheber

Jinx

Axelrod

@WadCheber en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octavia_E._Butler

SQB

See how few and far between they are? Yet every time anything happens, half the Internet is crying false flag.

Axelrod

11:45 PM

@SQB That's because humans are pattern recognition machines. But don't let the rareness of an occasion make you think that it's any less serious.

CandiedMango

So.

steelerfan

@WadCheber sigh.

CandiedMango

I go to sleep and look what happens.

Axelrod

@CandiedMango Solution: stay awake forever.

Wad Cheber

@CandiedMango Probably your fault. Not sure how.

Axelrod

11:46 PM

Become an elf.

ryan

@steelerfan you found us!

Wad Cheber

steelerfan

@ryan Yeah, Richard is over in the screening room and informed everyone that you guys are all over here :)

Catija

@WadCheber Well, the "Elf on a shelf" thing is a piece of crap that your trooper on a pooper shat out.

Axelrod

The Elf on the Shelf

The Elf on the Shelf: A Christmas Tradition is a 2005 children's picture book, written and self-published by American author Carol Aebersold and daughter Chanda Bell and illustrated by Coë Steinwart. The book tells a Christmas-themed story, written in rhyme, that explains how Santa Claus knows who is naughty and who is nice and describes elves visiting children between Thanksgiving and Christmas Eve, after which they return to the North Pole until the next holiday season. The Elf on the Shelf comes in a keepsake box that features a hardbound picture book and a small soft toy in the form of a pixie...

steelerfan

11:49 PM

@Catija Ha! That is frigging hilarious!

Wad Cheber