Is it unethical to say my current employer has financial problems when looking for another job?
Was closed as duplicate of this, admittedly older, question:
Can I disclose my company's financial troubles when applying for new jobs (UK)?
But I believe the newer question is much more suited to b...
Depending on your qualifications I think you could be expected to make as many as two coconuts an hour. This is a great rate if you happen to like coconuts. — AndreiROM2 mins ago
A new employee just came on board, and their lack of understanding of the english language has been a bit of a hurdle. This has become apparent in the slack handle they chose:
poonPounder
Granted their actual name is:
Poonjay
And their last name contains the word Pound.
So I'm in a ...
S.lut, G.Ayman, F.Uckman. I could go on, but I think you get the idea. Never use peoples' initials in generated email addresses. It will inevitably cause problems. — Kaz1 min ago
Not the first time I've had cause to invent inappropriate email addresses for a comment ^^
@enderland don't know if you noticed but he put the person's actual name (without consent of course) and it was edited out. Should that be removed from the edit history?
@kaz I had a case where a woman just entered her Initials in her firstname field, we had this System where customers could see their Picture and Name relevant Information. her Initials were D.D. needless to say we changed that soon after the CEO mentioned it.
Until recently, comment flag type did not matter very much and as moderators we basically processed them regardless of type.
As a reminder when flagging there are the following options:
From here:
rude or offensive — comments that violate the “be nice”
rule
not constructive
/ o...
My question New employee has offensive slack handle due to language barrier
Was met with a rather hostile reaction from a moderator, locking the entire question down so that only they could edit it. And while this moderator was rather rude, I am completely ignoring that and having an issue with...
@kevin-fegan when a conversation is "moved" to the chatroom, I don't think the messages are actually migrated. You are only encouraged to start up the conversation here.
@Walle re: "many found these comments met guidelines and were informative"
The guidelines are very clear. Comments are not for extended discussion, even if it's "useful". You can fight to change the Stack Exchange guidelines if you like, but that doesn't mean you should break them in the meantime.
@DoritoStyle Well that sounds arbitrary to your interpretation of the guidelines.
Define extended discussion, is it back and forth conversation? In which case I agree. Is it a large group providing information? In that case I disagree
When shouldn't I comment? [...] Secondary discussion or debating a controversial point; please use chat instead; Discussion of community behavior or site policies; please use meta instead.
I wasn't privvy to those comments, so what was being commented on? A large number of comments is off-topic almost by definition, unless every single one of those dozens of comment was each directly adding something specific to the question or answer.
if comments were flooding the question and not adding, then they don't fit the guidelines and should have been carried out in chat to begin with. Chat is very useful.
if a user comes along years from now, should they have to wade thru dozens of comments to get good information? No they should be able to read the question & answers and be done, that's the SE philosophy.
So, instead, come to chat, hash out the whole discussion, and only add the relevant points to the questions or answers themselves.
because it literally says that in the guidelines as well :)
That's what this boils down to. Comments are not a good place for useful info, since they are fair game for deletion and cleaning up. Questions & Answers are where the useful stuff should live, and if you needed to talk something out, chat is the place for that because it doesn't clutter a question page.
Something that apparently is getting lost here is that the site has rules and guidelines. Whether 5 people want to chat in comments is irrelevant. It's against the guidelines.
@DoritoStyle if you can explicitly point out where that is in the guidelines, I'll shut up. "@Walle - Monica is known for deleting everything and anything that is not written by her - JonH" and all the up votes about the comments being useful seem to say otherwise
Again, yes I know the sky is blue. That has nothing to do with the point a large part of the community found those valuable. How was left field enderland?
@enderland agreed, and that's part of why I love Stack Exchange so far. @JeffQuick, sorry if it seems like i'm running a crusade here.
It's not up to the community to decide these things. They can petition to change them in the Meta StackExchange, but the guidelines are predefined by the site creators.
The site has a strong mission statement in order to make sure it maintains value when competing with more "democratic" places like Reddit.
That's a great point. Consider the possibility that people who value clean clutter-free questions are the silent majority in this case. There are far more than dozens of people interacting on the exchange alone, and the upvotes were quite likely out-done by flags.
So I'm just gonna quit while I'm ahead, I get the idea reading comprehension isn't everybody's strong suit. We're arguing "The sky is blue" "no the tallest mountain is mt everest". and enderland, what? No... where did you get that from? I know left field seems fun, but it's not.
I'm sure what was just a random example, don't take it too literal.
You either agree with the guidelines or you don't, and that's fine! But they won't be changed because it would subvert much of the entire philosophy of this site.
No, I've ignored all of the barbs you continue to make towards me, with the exception of that comment (and now this) and instead focused on the issues you are discussing
@JeffQuick saying this like "And the sky if blue" is highly condescending, and while trying to remain neutral, I don't see @enderland doing anything but stating facts.
I'm genuinely sorry about that, I in no way meant to be condescending with that, I meant to provide a simple example of the fact we were arguing two completely different points that don't even conflict with each other. Trying to convey a "yes I agree to your point and..."
But enderland was truly coming out of left field with little context to the situation.
You are, you may not see it that way, but asking for comments to be considered useful and allow them to permanently remain is in direct contradiction to the guidelines I quoted above.
I agree. As I said in my quit while I'm ahead comment that you and enderland pulled me in from. How is this remotely trolling? Because I don't agree with mods?
Given the strict moderation of the main site exchanges, I find that I manage to deal with certain users much better out there than in chat (which is probably for the bets, the main site remains clean and orderly and useful!)
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