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Q: How to handle answers which have been changed AFTER being accepted as the correct answer?

LukeIn particular How to ask for a job referral from a person you don't know? where the top answer was changed after criticism and surprise that it was the accepted answer. (Albeit the question title was reworded as well). The initial answer which was accepted was summarised in the line "Don't...

 
 
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3:03 PM
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Q: How to deal with interruptions?

tiberiu.corbuThroughout the working day is a common practice to communicate, I find it good until the point where we communicated all day long and all the work done is in a draft state, leading one to work after hours, home office or resign. We had (my team) issued this problem numerous times into our retro,...

 
3:54 PM
What's a callback from a hiring manager worth?
 
@AaronHall depends on what the offer is, if it's $100k for the offer... about $100k :P
 
100k per year
But I might get a callback from another hiring manager (with a lower budget).
 
hehe. you are DC area though right?
or "high cost of living" ?
 
I'm in NYC.
I want to try to quantify it, but it's a guesstimation of a stochastic random variable for which I have very little data.
 
Oooh worse than DC for cost of living
 
4:03 PM
I guess it might be worth NPV of 100k over my lifetime.
Could be more.
or less
 
You mean a potential raise?
 
I really mean the value of being able to get a callback from a hiring manager.
 
oh. :P
for the one event? or just in general? You could probably try to model how significantly your salary increases as a result of new jobs vs not doing so, and see that way?
but there are a few other variables there...
 
Say my base callback rate is 1/4. If I get that to 3/4, I probably get more offers at the same time and an ability to start a bidding war and capture more of my value.
 
Yeah, exactly
Maybe each time you end up with $5k/more ? or something
 
4:10 PM
Maybe. I've read that people who actively manage their careers can get 14% annual increases in compensation.
 
Hmmm. That'd be tricky for me, unless I leave this company
 
I need to decide if I'm really going to take the GRE. If not, I need to probably make a strategic move.
14% assumes you move.
 
I'd assume so
I got about that this year but will not get it next year almost assuredly
the only way in my company is a straight up promotion
which normally comes with about 10% raise
 
If 14% is average, and average tenure is 2 years, that's about 30% increase on a move.
>>> 1.14*1.14
1.2995999999999999
 
Yeah. that doesn't seem sustainable though for someone early career unless you started out super low
 
4:16 PM
It's an average, and it probably assumes you take on don't decline managerial responsibilities.
 
but it also means if you start at 50k 10 years later you are at almost 200k
and after 20, $700k
 
Where does management make $700k?
mid-size company CEO?
Fortune 500 size middle management?
I'm pretty sure I know financial advisors that are pushing that level of comp.
 
our director level people (who start reporting to VP's, etc) are in the neighborhood of $300k max compensation including everything, for a 60k person company
so I think here you'd have to be a VP level person to get there
 
traders could make that.
By VP, you don't mean 5 or 6 levels down from CEO do you?
 
I think most are 2-3 at most
there are probably fluffy areas of management somewhere that are more, but everyone I've seen are within 2-3
 
4:23 PM
I'm 8 from the top, my title is VP.
6 management layers between me and the CEO
My only reports run on servers that I wrote myself. :)
 
4:37 PM
related, I skipped breakfast, and I'm skipping lunch... for now.
 
4:52 PM
related, I'm still thinking about a masters in statistics...
 
5:09 PM
related, I just made a 3rd cup of tea out of a recycled earl grey, 2nd generation... because I don't want too much caffeine in my system, and I paid $10 for this bag of loose earl grey...
related, trying to help my wife manage her career, suggesting she learn music typesetting - lilypond or something like that...
 
@AaronHall Well, good quality tea is tea you can reuse. I sometimes make 5 cups out of my Sumatra Oolong Barisan Tea.
But to be honest, the 5th cup doesn't taste like much.
 
Yeah, I only aim for 2 cups max, usually
I think they call what I was describing above, "title inflation."
 
5:32 PM
@AaronHall do you work in a bank though? I think financial industry way overuses "VP" as a title :P
 
that's right.
 
calling BS on that chart lol, though I guess "average" it says
oh it says "above average"
reading comprehension ftw
 
I'm trying to find a breakdown of high income by profession, but no dice...
 
6:16 PM
million income is different than millionaire too
 
Yeah, I'm quite aware of those distinctions. Too bad others aren't as careful.
 
Hm, it seems like I'm an average above average person.
Only I don't think my first couple years "work" count anything as I was only TAing on 20h/month contracts.
hm, no, forgot to divide by two
so I'm half an average above average person and my better half is the other half ;)
 
@Sumyrda lol yeah! me too
 
6:32 PM
Move out of the sticks fellas'.
 
I make a lot more now than I did as a TA. :P
 
Yeah, but I work 7 times as much than as a TA, too.
 
I feel like I work less now as a fulltime person than I did as an RA (never did a TA)
 
Yea, I don't feel like I work that much, either. I guess that comes with liking your job. Also, I work less hours and closer to home than my partner, which may be a factor in that feeling.
 
I make a good multiplier more now though, heheheh
 
6:47 PM
yeah, me too.
 
7:00 PM
probably about 4x more? something like that
which is super depressing. lol
 
7:12 PM
@AaronHall that guy asking the phd recruiter one has a wayyyyyy too optimistic view of recruiters
 
7:27 PM
recruiters suck for people with no experience.
Of course, I probably know a recruiter that would talk to him.
 
it breaks my heart to see PhD students so hopelessly floundering around after spending all that time
 
well, he still has to finish
 
yeah, true, but 4 years only to have no job prospects??
 
He'd probably get a callback with, "I'm a whatever PHD ABD..."
 
8:04 PM
What's the value of such a callback?
:D
 
lol
 

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