The Water Cooler - 2014-03-05

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3:37 AM

Mar 2 at 0:52, by BVR

Hi All,

24 hours ago, by BVR

@RhysW, My main intention is, I don't want to hear through my employer, by that time it is too late for me to improve things or control things. I have been seen that some of the clients wants to be nice with consultants and they don't give much negative feedback and don't talk about much about areas of improvements in the work delivered. But when they get chance confidential channels from employers they will give real and true feedback.

Hi All,

I would like to post above question and I have described my intention also above. Just need your opinion about how constructive the question is and how much suitable it is for this site

Please provide your opinion

@Rhsyw, as you suggested I have added extra information to my question. Do you think now it is constructive? If not do you have any ideas about improvising the question?

4 hours later…

8:08 AM

wow, passers by seem to upvote this SO question (and its multiple answers) like crazy: stackoverflow.com/questions/22146094/…

8:42 AM

@BVR Is it your job to manage client relations? Have you spoken to your boss about whether or not he agrees that getting feedback from the client is a good idea?

Even if the client does give feedback you can't act on that and that alone because the client doesn't employ you, your current company decides what is best for you to do not the client, so you will need your companies approval anyway

9:20 AM

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Q: My coworkers don't clean the toilet after themselves

We have 1 men's toilet + 1 urinal at work for about 15-20 people and 1 women's toilet for 3-4 females. The problem we have is that some of the employees don't check if everything has been flushed properly and that the bowl is clean. According to the employees working here for a few years, this ...

work-environment

no shit

9:42 AM

what a shitty situation

5

1 hour later…

11:00 AM

I love this question. It brings the most awesome answers

-1

A: How do I stay awake during work without the use of coffee?

I'd suggest morning sex with your beloved one it has been proven to work better than coffee

Maybe it's time to use protection?

2 hours later…

12:38 PM

@CMW I protected it

1:14 PM

@enderland Thanks, I think it's for the best

1:46 PM

to those unhappy with too much attention brought into recent shit'n'coffee questions of ours, here's a bunch of recent SO questions that could help "redirect" a pressure from passers by if upvoted as enthusiastically as at TWP: stackoverflow.com/questions/22191589 stackoverflow.com/questions/22182669 stackoverflow.com/questions/22146094 and, maybe stackoverflow.com/questions/22164036

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A: Prevent specific sites from being overrepresented in the hot questions list

It was bad Old system was designed so that it tended to inaccurately favor questions from sites that differ much from Stack Overflow, particularly smaller and ones of conceptual / subjective-ish nature (for example, Programmers and Workplace). Compared to SO, smaller sites have much less power ...

who is flagging an stared message over 4 hours ago?

@gnat I wonder how long it'll take until people start getting called out for serial upvoting

:)

since there's a script to auto-protect a question with so many down-voted answers, maybe there should also be one to auto-close as too broad when a certain amount of up-voted answers is reached

@Braiam why not. wait that's not the best reason for something

@enderland context...

2:09 PM

@Braiam I have no idea what you're asking, I wasn't really providing a serious answer... I have no idea why someone would, either

@CMW eternity, because it's not a serial voting. Serial voting suggests focus on user, not on question:

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A: What is serial voting and how does it affect me?

What is voting fraud? Voting fraud is when a single user continually voting (up or down) on many of your posts within a short period of time. This is not considered normal behavior and the system will not allow it. If it continues to happen between two certain IP addresses (voting each other up)...

@gnat haha, okay, cool :)

10 mins ago, by Braiam

@enderland context...

I'm still confused. going to chalk it up to not feeling well...

It's not just you

1 hour later…

3:32 PM

Good evening!

kalimera!

workplace.stackexchange.com/questions/12990/… — Joe Strazzere 19 hours ago

^^^ why isn't it dupe-closed per above comment?

Finally carnival is over... uff

@HugoRocha You were in Cologne?

:D

@CMW No o_o Brazil.... but nvm that, carnival is still running among here, it's just less disturbing

:P

3:46 PM

in Germany, as of today, festivities are over

here too

I mean, officially

spectacle. Whatever the appropriate word is, for a desaster of such proportions

:)

but people are still jumping around

yup

here they aren't anymore

we take 'Aschermittwoch' seriously

:D

I'm going to drop there, brb

lol

Aschermittwoch

3:47 PM

haha

let me google that

oh

ashes day

right, here we are on it

that: pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quarta-feira_de_cinzas

but no one cares :P

^^

when it comes to Aschermittwoch, Germany can be very religulous

I see

4:01 PM

Well, off to my kinect

cya boys

@HugoRocha have fun

4:14 PM

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Q: Is it technically feasible to have 2-3 aging factors for hot questions at Programmers?

I am pondering particular feature request, but before diving deep into polishing its presentation and details, I would like to understand whether the change it would require is technically feasible at all. I wonder if it is technically possible to implement a different aging factor for Programme...

support answer-quality hot-questions

^^^ this might be interesting at Workplace, too

@CMW needs some backing? thats what she said.. — Marriott81 45 secs ago

\o/

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Q: Ethical to use my Mobile on the clock

Whilst I am sitting at my desk I like to keep my phone next to my PC. We all used to do this, but then it was pointed out that the boss does not like it. So now most of us keep it but keep it covered up with something or hidden. Is it right to keep your phone next to you in work? I know my comp...

professionalism phone

this is going to go places

This question appears to be off-topic because it is about regulations or agreements that are company-specific and don't have universally applicable answers. — CMW 18 secs ago

I can't put my finger on it, but this feels off topic to me:

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Q: Project Manager asks for complete 100% confidence everytime committing code

I've got an ongoing relationship with a long term business partner as a consultant where his role is project manager (task manager + direction), and my role is a contracted developer. He has a tendency to micromanage my time with his tasks and oversight, but also has a strong sense of perfection...

4:32 PM

@CMW I have similar problems being a solo dev on my project, it's impossible to fully test EVERYTHING I do for EVERY commit change :(

@enderland Oh I completely sympathize with the problem. I've had discussions like that a lot.

if I had unlimited time I would write a huge suite of tests and validate everything against them but...

That won't cover everything

nope

not to mention covering "this is how we said it should work" "oh, I guess it needs to be different" stuff ;)

especially memory/load time problems, often times only show up in production systems, on production hardware with the production database and traffic

haha, don't get me started :D

4:50 PM

@enderland 3 bad answeers... protect please

and close

5:03 PM

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Q: How do I stay awake during work without the use of coffee?

I find myself drinking 2 cups of coffee a day during work, and feeling incredibly tired whenever I don't get at least one cup worth in my system during the day. This helps me stay awake well enough to get my tasks done. The problem is, I feel like I'm drinking far too much coffee for my own g...

productivity health

why is that still open?

It is not about navigating the workplace

@Chad maybe most people disagree

We have a scope for a reason... this is well outside of that scope despite the fact that many users would like to talk about it. That is what chat is for

the fact that it has 6 comment answers says something

@CodingKiwi see this discussion — enderland 7 secs ago

feels like throwing gasoline onto a fire there

@enderland Sometimes an accellerant is needed to get the fire really stoked :)

6:05 PM

@Chad I completely agree with you. Just speculating on what others might think

2 hours later…

7:52 PM

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Q: Project Manager asks for complete 100% confidence everytime committing code

I've got an ongoing relationship with a long term business partner as a consultant where his role is project manager (task manager + direction), and my role is a contracted developer. He has a tendency to micromanage my time with his tasks and oversight, but also has a strong sense of perfection...

this question belongs on programmers i think

in The Whiteboard, 2 mins ago, by enderland

do you guys want this?

in The Whiteboard, 41 secs ago, by MichaelT

@enderland I'd be tempted to punt it over here and see if it sticks. Its not bad. Might have @gnat or someone tweak the wording to try to avoid primary opinion type closes.

@enderland The right answer to that question is do automated regression testing... Thats not a TWP Answer though

8:09 PM

in The Whiteboard, 7 mins ago, by gnat

@MichaelT I took a look; I would migrate it here and immediately close as a dupe of:

I would prefer it at Programmers

how should an answer that is basically passing on an urban legend supposed to be flagged? workplace.stackexchange.com/a/20109/16

@Chad as low quality crap?

preferably in haiku or limerick...

poetry of flagging

Feb 28 at 16:55, 27 minutes total – 44 messages, 5 users, 10 stars

Bookmarked Feb 28 at 20:10 by gnat

2 hours later…

10:06 PM

Deleted my answer when I saw that it was substantially the same as this one. — outis nihil 12 mins ago

this is the most ridiculously amazing comment I've ever seen. can my eyes be true? did someone actually SELF DELETE an answer which otherwise would have been noise?!?

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10:23 PM

@enderland its actually a good workplace answer too

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