Minecraft Talk - 2015-07-06 (page 1 of 2)

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Kevin van der Velden

10:49 AM

So... 16 alchemical furnaces

Kevin van der Velden

11:05 AM

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user image

11:21 AM

to provide the essences for autocrafting? nice

Kevin van der Velden

11:32 AM

Yeah

3 are for crystallizing the essentia of random items, 3 for centrifuging and then crystallizing, 5 for storing the essentia in the AE system the last 5 for keeping certain things stocked

Kevin van der Velden

11:48 AM

WIN!

Hungry bright node :D

12:15 PM

ah fuck

@KevinvanderVelden w00t! Going to feed it Fabrico?

Kevin van der Velden

Lots and lots of it

nice

Kevin van der Velden

1:03 PM

Also: the warp hunger effect is pretty deadly

The unnatural hunger effect when you're already at 3 shanks and not near your AE system (in another dimension, 4km from the closest tp method) does not work well

I thought you had a remote orderer?

Kevin van der Velden

Yeah but I redid the AE network and now it's really slow and I was fighting a hungry node

I'll have to set that up now, I managed to get to Eldritch Guardian spawning levels of Warp now

Kevin van der Velden

Also I'm just going to feed it arrows

That also has everything and I have 80k of them

Uuh

Were 80k is defined as 244k

user43095

@KevinvanderVelden @Ieuan Can we have a command block for adding warp like last server?

Kevin van der Velden

1:10 PM

@JeffreyLin No.

it's really easy getting warp with the configs set to easy mode

like... if you've scanned all the things, it's literally just clicking around for 5 minutes to get to 1/3rd warp

Kevin van der Velden

Also: If you want a lot of warp: Eat a lot of brains

1:31 PM

I should really play again at some point, I haven't really played since thaumcraft got warp effects.

Kevin van der Velden

C'me here villagers. I need those LP

user43095

@KevinvanderVelden Can I get OP for five seconds? ;)

Kevin van der Velden

@JeffreyLin You can get a ban for five seconds, or longer if you want!

Hmm, I love that I can just type a single simple command from my local terminal and it will SSH into the server and execute a command on the minecraft instance

Also I feel mean @JeffreyLin, I've opped you

user43095

Wat

user43095

But I'm not on now

Kevin van der Velden

1:39 PM

It's even been longer than 5 seconds! deops

user43095

Damnit

user43095

mod-abuse

Kevin van der Velden

op-abuse

Huh, that only took 50k LP to teleport

@KevinvanderVelden Does that really hurt you?

Kevin van der Velden

@Arperum well no, it mostly hurts villagers

I have no automated LP gathering yet

But I do have an autospawner for villagers, a bedrockium drum full of essence and enough runes to give me 7k LP per villager

1:44 PM

Ah, have you ever ran out of LP because you left some automated system on that kept using LP?

Kevin van der Velden

I have no automated systems that use it yet so no =p

@Arperum I've done that, though often it's just nausea before you fix it. My previous base ran off of LP generated lava

What would happen if everyone had his base run from the LP network of one person who was never online?

(except for the first setup to get it all started)

@Arperum the LP network would run dry and the rituals would stop, afaik

I think the effects are by something trying to draw LP but failing.

@Jochem Booh :( No building up insane amounts of negative lp?

Kevin van der Velden

1:49 PM

Nope =[

probably not, no :)

@JeffreyLin there is really no reason to have warp

It's just annoying for you and everyone around you

No, we cannot have an "I WANT WARP" button

there is research you only get when you have warp

You can get warp by legitimate means.

1:54 PM

@ratchetfreak @JeffreyLin has all research unlocked

user43095

@Ieuan Gotta have more eldritch guardians

user43095

Plus, you took it away

@JeffreyLin can't we make a spawner for those or something?

Or even give them an EMC value of a couple million

Oh no the in/out was broken on EE3

user43095

No, the ability to safari-net Thaumcraft mobs was removed last major update, probably because capturing Crimson Cult bosses would be rather OP.

@JeffreyLin what about enderio?

Those spawners aren't great but they do work

If you can capture thaumcraft stuff in vials that'd be an option

user43095

2:01 PM

I'll just eat more zombie brains.

LogisticsPipes -> #123
Botania 194 -> 198
Aroma1997Core
CoFH Core
Thermal Foundation
Thermal Expansion
Redstone Arsenal
Thermal Dynamics
Equivalent Exchange 3

That's what needs to be done today

user43095

I'll do it. Probably.

Also @JeffreyLin you'll have to make a new build with your changes from T1.0C because that got overwritten

Actually no

user43095

Wat

user43095

I thought I did D.

2:03 PM

We'll continue with T1.1

user43095

The EE3 FAQ hasn't been updated in a while...

Alright T1.1 now has your T1.0C changes

Continuing on with my list for the day

user43095

Doing EE3

user43095

CoFH is all at the same site

I just downloaded all the CoFH stuff from curseforge

Then after EE3 we should be done

@JeffreyLin what about MFR?

user43095

2:15 PM

I'll do it I guess

@JeffreyLin yeah but does it even have an update?

user43095

Why are you asking if it doesn't?

user43095

Goddamnit Windows how many drivers relating to my iPad do you need?

@JeffreyLin I saw in Solder that it's by CoFH too but don't remember it needing an update

Wouldn't make sense if it didn't though if it actually is by CoFH

user43095

Check it

user43095

2:18 PM

Nope, latest stable is the one we are on.

Yeah seems like it

And that is not a mod we want to be on alpha with

Alright then

@JeffreyLin how is EE3 coming along?

user43095

Uploaded, just need to add version on repo

there's a new version of EE? :o

user43095

Wait what

user43095

The one I just downloaded and uploaded is the exact same one

user43095

2:21 PM

wat

Kevin van der Velden

Oke, I'm going to start feeding the node. Current aspects: 13 aer, 15 aqua, 16 fames, 18 lucrum, 6 terra

good luck!

user43095

@Ieuan We need a hungry node because we have to be better than Kevin.

@Jochem there always is

@JeffreyLin wat

user43095

The one I just grabbed from curseforge is the one already on repo

2:25 PM

Oh

github.com/pahimar/…

Build it yourself

user43095

You build it

user43095

@Ieuan curse.com/mc-mods/minecraft/ee3#t1:other-downloads

user43095

Are you sure EE3 is complaining?

user43095

Boot up T1.1

It's not complaining but we're missing lots of stuff

user43095

2:26 PM

How do you know?

Forgecraft

user43095

I'm not going to release a package that might explode that I built myself.

user43095

Okay, so the current version was released May 21

Kevin van der Velden

It already has at least 6 of every primal

@JeffreyLin the version we had was built by me

that worked fine

Forge found a problem

No CoFHCore

user43095

2:29 PM

RIP

Kevin van der Velden

@Ieuan does it even have update checking already?

@KevinvanderVelden don't think so

user43095

We're only about 35 commits behind

Pahimar doesn't really frequently release tested builds either

user43095

I'll build it later

user43095

2:30 PM

What's a gradle?

Kevin van der Velden

Heh, the node is also eating bats

@JeffreyLin task runner

@KevinvanderVelden nine hells bats too?

user43095

@Ieuan That's so OP

Kevin van der Velden

@Ieuan probably

user43095

Especially because my wand is charged with mana and I make mana for free.

2:32 PM

@JeffreyLin there's an LP wand too

user43095

github.com/pahimar/Equivalent-Exchange-3/commit/… They fixed the thing I was exploiting :O

user43095

Also by default emc values regenerate ~~when mods change~~ ALWAYS

user43095

Mostly dupe bug fixes

@JeffreyLin that config setting is broken

at least in the build we're using

user43095

Did you do Botania and LP?

2:34 PM

@JeffreyLin ?

Yeah

I did everything except EE3

user43095

I'll build EE3 later. Does the pack run?

user43095

Wat

user43095

Why is there a picture of gaben on my iPad

@JeffreyLin checking now

[B#301]  java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: buildcraft/api/crops/ICropHandler
[B#301]  	at buildcraft.BuildCraftCompat.preInit(BuildCraftCompat.java:72) ~[BuildCraftCompat.class:?]
[B#301]  	at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method) ~[?:1.7.0_75]
[B#301]  	at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source) ~[?:1.7.0_75]
[B#301]  	at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source) ~[?:1.7.0_75]
[B#301]  	at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source) ~[?:1.7.0_75]

user43095

Buildcraft has crops?

2:40 PM

@JeffreyLin apparently

I think we need @KevinvanderVelden and @Unionhawk in here

user43095

Could be the robots thing

Kevin van der Velden

@Ieuan in where?

@KevinvanderVelden in errortown

user43095

@Ieuan NOT MR. LAGS!

@JeffreyLin pastebin.com/9eQV417r

Full crashlog

user43095

2:45 PM

Hmm

user43095

Neither BC or BCCompat were updated, only LP

user43095

Downgrade LP then I guess

@Ieuan @JeffreyLin in the pack, there's BC Compat 7.0.8 and BC 7.0.4. 7.0.12 is out for BC itself, why not try updating to that first?

@JeffreyLin Both BC and BCCompat should be updated

user43095

@Jochem I think I already did that

2:47 PM

Also, make sure you have the same version LP as we did, the latest build number isn't in the same tree as the one we have to use

@JeffreyLin solder claims it's at 7.0.4

for build 1.1 at least

7.0.12 is available in solder, but not selected

user43095

That might be my fault

So er

wat

user43095

@Ieuan Force update, I just changed BC versions

user43095

Oh by the way guys, WailaNBT isn't the mod causing super long times to respawn.

@JeffreyLin if this work we should buy @Jochem a beer or something

2:52 PM

@JeffreyLin NO THAT'S YOU YOU IDIOT

YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO ACCUSE ANYONE OR ANYTHING OF LAGGING THE SERVER

user43095

@Ieuan I'll give him a diamond

user43095

@Unionhawk It's not Ieuan and me, and the server is at 12 TPS

@JeffreyLin @KevinvanderVelden's base is loaded

Kevin van der Velden

@Ieuan yours is not?

@KevinvanderVelden yeah it is

All 150 chunks

Kevin van der Velden

2:55 PM

Chunkcount isn't really the determining factor

user43095

@Ieuan Is there a way to chunkload only the 100 chunks we use?

it's an easy way to sneak through an Opis audit though :)

I'll run opis later, maybe it's just a couple of blocks

@JeffreyLin that's a bad idea, actually

@JeffreyLin YOU LITERALLY BROUGHT THE NETHER TO 0 TPS LAST SEASON, AND FREQUENTLY BOOTED UP A SYSTEM TAKEN OFFLINE DUE TO LAG.

user43095

@Unionhawk I needed stuff.

Kevin van der Velden

@JeffreyLin NO YOU DID NOT D:

2:57 PM

You have literally no room to blame people for shit

if you accidentally run a pipe through one of those chunks, it'll start loading those chunks from disk all the time

@Jochem wait what, pipes chunkload?

also, it's better to just make sure the chunks you use don't contain any AI, so like... light up, or fill in any underground caves

@Jochem what about the village with like 30 villagers in our base :D?

@Ieuan depending on the way it's handled, they would load an unloaded chunk that they're sending items into

the chunk would immediately unload after though

user43095

2:59 PM

@Jochem That's chunkloaded though

@JeffreyLin not if you chunkload only the chunks you're using and then mess up around the edges

hence: bad idea to under-load your chunks

user43095

Guess we're staying with 150 then.

What the hell do you need that many chunks for

3 QEDs?

like @KevinvanderVelden said, chunk count isn't the issue, it's AI and tile entities in those chunks

@Unionhawk I removed 2 of the 3

they were causing some FPS issues

3:01 PM

A LIKELY STORY

user43095

@Ieuan YOU DON'T SAY

Why does Botania do a word count of the lexicon on boot?

Because Vazkii made it do that

I don't know

I'm not a magician

Or a wizard

Or even Vazkii, for that matter

@JeffreyLin can you run through both your changelog on github and the mods I pasted a couple hours ago and check if they're in the latest build?

LogisticsPipes -> #123
Botania 194 -> 198
Aroma1997Core
CoFH Core
Thermal Foundation
Thermal Expansion
Redstone Arsenal
Thermal Dynamics
Equivalent Exchange 3

Damnit

I updated all those on server

but didn't do buildcraft and shit

brb lunch then I'll fix server and get it back up

user43095

@Ieuan AHAHAHHAHA

user43095

3:19 PM

@Ieuan Done that, and verified that Minecraft loads.

user43095

Are we putting in latest configs?

4:10 PM

@JeffreyLin sure why not

4:23 PM

Wtf RFTools

[16:22:41] [Server thread/INFO] [mcjty.rftools.RFTools]: Could not read 'userdimlets.json', this is not an error!

Alright

Server able to boot

Pack updated again

Hopefully now in sync

user43095

@Ieuan with configs?

@JeffreyLin no was waiting on you to put them in solder

Oh what the fuck

@JeffreyLin why is equivalent exchange not in our pack lol

Goddammit

Our buildcraft and logisticspipes are both outdated

I just updated those to the versions @JeffreyLin added to solder

@JeffreyLin what the

[B#301]  net.minecraft.util.ReportedException: Updating screen events
[B#301]  	at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_71407_l(Minecraft.java:1654) ~[bao.class:?]
[B#301]  	at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_71411_J(Minecraft.java:973) ~[bao.class:?]
[B#301]  	at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_99999_d(Minecraft.java:898) [bao.class:?]
[B#301]  	at net.minecraft.client.main.Main.main(SourceFile:148) [Main.class:?]
[B#301]  	at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method) ~[?:1.7.0_75]

Damnit

What the f does forestry even have to do with a thaumcraft wand :s

Alright dinner, @JeffreyLin I expect configs to be ready and a solution to all our shit when I get back

1 hour later…

user43095

6:06 PM

@Ieuan Configs ready

user43095

Possibly NEIIntegration's fault

@JeffreyLin yeah or thaumcraft nei plugins

user43095

Where are you getting Thaumcraft from?

But you didn't check any of those for upgrades did you?

user43095

No

6:08 PM

curse.com/mc-mods/minecraft/225095-thaumcraft-nei-plugin

We have the latest of that

user43095

Rebooting so that I can properly build EE3

1.12.8.29

NEI Addons is outdated

user43095

6:29 PM

java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/jruby/ext/posix/POSIXHandler

user43095

wat

6:40 PM

@JeffreyLin wat

Spined Zombie fell out of the world

wat

Getting timed out when I try to join

user43095

Everything is RIP

user43095

@Ieuan Did we not fix that

@JeffreyLin apparently the new configs broke that

user43095

goddamnit

user43095

7:02 PM

I think I broke gradle by installing with --no-install-recommends

7:19 PM

@JeffreyLin ggwp

user43095

@Ieuan How fix

Kevin van der Velden

apt-cache show gradle, manually install recommendations

user43095

Oh hell

@KevinvanderVelden or just apt-get remove gradle apt-get purge apt-get install gradle

Kevin van der Velden

Also an option

user43095

7:21 PM

@Ieuan Tried that, things are still breaking

@JeffreyLin then what Kevin said

gg no re

user43095

Package: gradle
Priority: optional
Section: universe/java
Installed-Size: 1264
Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com>
Original-Maintainer: Debian Java Maintainers <pkg-java-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Architecture: all
Version: 1.5-2ubuntu1
Depends: ant (>= 1.8), default-jre-headless, libdom4j-java, libgradle-core-java (= 1.5-2ubuntu1), libgradle-plugins-java (= 1.5-2ubuntu1), libjaffl-java (>= 0.5.9-2), libjaxen-java, libjna-java, libjnr-posix-java (>= 1.1.8), libkryo-java, libnative-platform-java, libwagon-java

user43095

@KevinvanderVelden I don't see any recommendations

Kevin van der Velden

Hmm

7:22 PM

HMM

Kevin van der Velden

Then the don't install recommends flag shouldn't do anything

What's the error you're getting anyway?

user43095

I think it did something

user43095

:22599017 FAILURE: Build aborted because of an internal error.

* What went wrong:
Build aborted because of an unexpected internal error. Please file an issue at: forums.gradle.org.

* Try:
Run with --debug option to get additional debug info.

* Exception is:
java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/jruby/ext/posix/POSIXHandler
	at org.gradle.internal.nativeplatform.filesystem.FileSystemServices.createStat(FileSystemServices.java:95)
	at org.gradle.internal.nativeplatform.filesystem.FileSystemServices.addServices(FileSystemServices.java:83)

gg maybe re

Kevin van der Velden

* Try:
Run with --debug option to get additional debug info.

Did you try that yet?

user43095

7:24 PM

Yes

user43095

15:24:12.775 [DEBUG] [org.gradle.logging.internal.DefaultLoggingConfigurer] Finished configuring with level: DEBUG, configurers: [org.gradle.logging.internal.OutputEventRenderer@5c7fa833, org.gradle.logging.internal.logback.LogbackLoggingConfigurer@39aeed2f, org.gradle.logging.internal.JavaUtilLoggingConfigurer@724af044]
15:24:12.860 [DEBUG] [org.gradle.internal.nativeplatform.filesystem.FileSystemServices] Unable to load LibC library. Continuing with fallback filesystem implementations.
15:24:12.863 [DEBUG] [org.gradle.internal.nativeplatform.filesystem.FileSystemServices] Using FallbackSy…

user43095

I need the LibC library

Kevin van der Velden

issues.gradle.org/browse/GRADLE-2416

user43095

@KevinvanderVelden It's been fixed though

Kevin van der Velden

Only thing I could find

7:28 PM

Clearly you're doing something wrong

user43095

Wat

user43095

Running as sudo fixed it

user43095

But

user43095

You're generally not supposed to do things as sudo

user43095

Especially building stuff

7:35 PM

rm -rf jeffreylin

File not found.

Welp

Kevin van der Velden

find / -type f -iname *jeffreylin* -exec rm -rfv {} \;

user43095

org.gradle.api.GradleScriptException: A problem occurred evaluating root project 'Equivalent-Exchange-3'.

user43095

> Could not generate a proxy class for class net.minecraftforge.gradle.user.patch.UserPatchExtension.

I knew I shouldn't have just blindly copied over those configs

user image

user43095

@Ieuan Is it the fact that the server is behind or that the CoFH mob killings are back?

7:49 PM

@JeffreyLin wat

@JeffreyLin what did you do

I want a line-by-line changelog of the configs by 5

user43095

# Set to true to display death messages for any named entity.
B:EnableGenericDeathMessage=false

Oh

I see

The config that needed to be off because it was full of named entities in mob farms

user43095

@Unionhawk It's already false though

Okay... so... waht's the issue

I shouldn't be commenting, work blocks puu.sh, so it's inf for me

7:51 PM

I think we're screwed

RIP the server

@Ieuan did you just... copy configs @JeffreyLin did straight to the server?

@Jochem yeah, according to the commits nothing should've been wrong with them

what commits

Actually this should be the configs @Unionhawk checked

So blame him >:(

7:55 PM

@Ieuan did you double check that superfunmode was off?

Hey man, I never checked nothing

user43095

EVERYONE IS TO BLAME

user43095

@Jochem It's off.

user43095

But GenericDeathMessages are also off and it's still printing to stdout

wELP

7:56 PM

so roll back to 1.0c, restore the world from the last succesful backup, and try again tomorrow?

user43095

Also server is shitting itself a little

Yeah, I'd say abort deployment and rollback

user43095

I think configs might have been replaced when we updated CoFH?

That seems possible?

user43095

Someone smart help me build EE3 @Ieuan @Jochem @Unionhawk @KevinvanderVelden

7:58 PM

Arg I'm at work you dingus

sets fire to @JeffreyLin

@JeffreyLin I will in a bit

Kevin van der Velden

@JeffreyLin No.

user43095

@Unionhawk Then get off chat.

NO

I don't have a java build environment, nor any urge to set one up

Kevin van der Velden

7:58 PM

I have no idea how any of the current java environment works and no desire to find out

@Jochem probably what I'll do

Also yeah, don't have javac either

user43095

@Jochem Just tell me why things are exploding

Kevin van der Velden

You did something wrong

@JeffreyLin Java

7:59 PM

@JeffreyLin BECAUSE YOU BROKE EVERYTHING

user43095

15:47:45.305 [ERROR] [org.gradle.BuildExceptionReporter]
15:47:45.307 [ERROR] [org.gradle.BuildExceptionReporter] FAILURE: Build failed with an exception.
15:47:45.308 [ERROR] [org.gradle.BuildExceptionReporter]
15:47:45.309 [ERROR] [org.gradle.BuildExceptionReporter] * Where:
15:47:45.309 [ERROR] [org.gradle.BuildExceptionReporter] Build file '/mnt/Jeffrey/git/Equivalent-Exchange-3/build.gradle' line: 19
15:47:45.310 [ERROR] [org.gradle.BuildExceptionReporter]
15:47:45.310 [ERROR] [org.gradle.BuildExceptionReporter] * What went wrong:

user43095

@Jochem ^

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