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2:45 AM
Is there some flag to close because this is essentially "do my homework" or "I am in Formal languages class [...] problem statement" ? Or should it get proper answer despite lacking effort whatsoever?
 
vzn
3:25 AM
@EvilJS dont know what you mean
 
@vzn I got reputation fitting nick, but now I am 10 points ahead :>
@vzn cs.stackexchange.com/questions/45724/… it got answer, but is this kind of question is proper?
 
3:42 AM
@vzn nvm, some people find some numbers to be meaningful.
 
 
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7:59 AM
@D.W. It seems nobody knows where it was published, but algorithm itself is recognised, so author only, ok?
 
 
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vzn
3:44 PM
@EvilJS what is this for?
 
4:02 PM
@vzn what is what for?
Cite? I was asked to provide proper details, couldn't find requested data, and also do not know what "proper" means in this context.
So I asked if edit is ok now, why?
@vzn in which timezone are you?
 
4:19 PM
@EvilJS, I'm suggesting you add citations to your answer (not here in chat) so that if the links stop working, people can still find the papers you are referring to. As far as where it's published, have you searched for the paper title on Google Scholar? That will often tell you where it was published.
@EvilJS, maybe you've already added it to the answer? Let me see if I can dig up where that was again.
Ahh, I see, you added it to the answer. Cool, exactly what I was suggesting. Thank you, that looks very helpful.
 
4:33 PM
@D.W. I know, this was first what I did, just wanted to confirm is it appropriate, and to check if summary is ok, it mayhap I should elaborate. Still learning how to answer because model here is very unique.
 
vzn
@EvilJS click gray left arrow in reply to see reply section. ie what is that ref "Matrix-Vector Multiplication via Erasure Decoding"/ Trifonov for?
@EvilJS MST
oh, ok, see now, was just checking that its the 0-1 matrix multiplication question.
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Q: Automated optimization of 0-1 matrix vector multiplication

Nick AlgerQuestion: Is there established procedure or theory for generating code that efficiently applies a matrix-vector multiplication, when the matrix is dense and filled with only zeros and ones? Ideally, the optimized code would ideally make systematic use of previously computed information to reduce...

 
@vzn it is a bit buggy, I am on mobile phone, there are no arrows in normal mode, in full site mode starred answers overlap the chat :-/
Ok. For a second I was displayed as EvilJS 666, which was funny coincidence. Also to be clear, 666 is meaningless to me, it is not even a prime.
 
vzn
re the Trifonov ref: afaict the question is not actually over GF(2) as the paper studies. GF(2) has addition and multiplication as binary XOR/ AND resp, the operations are closed within binary values. the above question is matrix multiplication of binary matrix operands using std multiplication/ addition and/ but results are not nec binary. there is a lot of research on GF(2) matrix operations in cryptography but afaict, it does not apply here. — vzn 1 min ago
@EvilJS oh yeah, ok. mobile is funky that way, have used it myself.
 
@vzn yes, checking if such ref is ok, and explicitly gave at (@), if something is enclosed over finite dictionary it is ok, also cannot use binary only operations as vectors are probably real.
 
vzn
what is "(@)"?
 
4:46 PM
Symbol meaning "at" and I thought it was the way to show that something is directed to person of interest?
@vzn timezone question too personal?
 
vzn
@EvilJS yes it ("@" notification) works in some cases, it has limits
@EvilJS answered it (timezone, MST)
 
Oh MST, ok, have to check meaning
8 hours time shift, ok
@vzn it should not be GF(2) afaik
It would imply that vector is also binary, which is certainly not the case
 
5:36 PM
@vzn I just did drone crash test. I knew it is called crash, but it literally crashed ;)
Lol. Friend was so proud, putting weights anywhere, self stabilizing systems, it was stable with pressured air from any side, self stabilizing in case two engines went down. And friend was so proud of deflect / dash system, tried throwing paper balls at different speeds, none did hit
So I took kniefe and thee it. Headshot, crash landing ;X
 
vzn
5:54 PM
Pixar in a box / Khan academy
@EvilJS no kidding eh? have been tracking drone developments myself for many years. try this cool/ glossy new mag rotor drone. what drone are you using?
?!? throw knife at drone? are you crazy? sounds like an enrique iglesias move to me :(
 
@vzn no, no kidding, I threw a knife, it cut some wires. No real harm done, but still, did not passed my crash test. Yes rotor drone, it has no name and friend is doing prototype, so it is the only one manufactured.
 
vzn
@EvilJS ah yes. a lot of custom work in this area. but frames & motors & cpus are typically common. what kind of controller? frame? there is a lot of 3d printing going on in this area also.
 
@vzn I do not know this music, sorry. Well he said that dashing system is very mature, perfect, so I helped him with testing. Do not know details. I was only writting some quaternions and cheering him up ;>
It certainly make perfect dash when bird appears, but smaller object, not so much.
I love "perfect" systems, sounds like an invite.
 
vzn
lol, earning your nickname :P
 
6:11 PM
Helping somebody has different flavours. Sometimies wake up call is though ;)
JS part of nickname is rather trivial to understand. The rest I presume not that much ;)
 
6:24 PM
Out of the blue question: I should say/write that something is good" to me" or "for me", trying to improve a bit, but it seems perfectly the same.
I know there are probably better places to ask it, but I did, still there is no difference
 
@EvilJS "good to me" => "nice". ("My grandparents gave me a gift. They are very good to me.")
"good for me" => "healthy". ("Cod Liver Oil is high in Omega 3. I eat a spoonful every day because it is good for me.")
 
@WanderingLogic thank you. Wow, now it is clear.
"My compiler is good to me, it optimises my mess." "Eating oat meal is good for me and I feel it is hitting the spot"?
 
6:48 PM
Yes :)
 
vzn
 
@vzn signing in, thanks
 
 
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9:02 PM
Hello everyone
Is asking "what is the state of the art of BLAH" a valid question for this site?
@D.W
Ah, according to a quick search of previous questions on this site, it is indeed a valid question base.
 
@Seanny123, tough to say, without seeing the question. I see two pitfalls here. First, if you're not careful, this could end up being too broad. We want questions to be narrow and focused. So, a question like "What is the state of the art in network flow algorithms?" would probably be too broad.
Second, it's important to do research first before asking, and show us in the question what research you've done. You should have done a literature search (e.g., Google Scholar). If you just ask for the state of the art with no prior research, there's a risk your question could have downvotes rained on it. See cs.stackexchange.com/help/how-to-ask.
 
Yeah, that's what I also concluded. I'll due my best and deal with the consequences
 
That said, if you keep it within the rules of Stack Exchange (be clear what your question is asking, don't be over-broad, show your research), that kind of question could be entirely suitable and could make a great question for this site.
 
 
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vzn
10:40 PM
@Seanny123 hi/ welcome, curious, what are you doing at CNRG? have blogged on related topics, eg AI etc... (coincidentally banging on massive link pile for new deep learning post at this moment...)
 
11:01 PM
@vzn yes, you are right, I am profusely sorry. Paper is about binary matrix and binary vector, I did find this scheme useful and treated it like finding decomposition idea, but did not provided that info, and haven't implemented and tested the idea yet. I am deleting it for now.
 
vzn
@EvilJS dont really think you should delete the answer. you could put a comment or an edit. think sometimes answers that are not correct but show a misconception are still worthwhile to keep. (it can point to unclear questions and help clarify questions iteratively. there are other cases of this, its not a new precedent.)
(sigh) see you deleted your comment, leaving mine referencing yours no longer making sense. :(
 
Oups :X too fast
What now rollback plus edit or put it in comment?
Running and writing on phone gives strange time feeling
 
11:27 PM
@vzn at this point I'm trying to work on using reinforcement learning so a production system can solve some simple puzzles. Basically, my Master's thesis end goal is to answer this question cs.stackexchange.com/questions/45651/…
 

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