@StrongBad Yep, I think you did.

Hello, everybody. This isn't particularly on topic here. But it's no more on topic anywhere on SE either. I was wondering if anyone knows how to write on a Wikipedia Talk page. Do I edit the source? If so, that seems weird.

The particular talk page is en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Notthebestusername

Hey so do most people manually link cc to gcc?

@AaronHall No, most, if not all Linux distributions will do it automatically.

Debian happens to use the alternatives system, but I bet everyone else links it, one way of the other.

It's certainly possible to undo/change if you want to. In Debian and derivatives one would use the alternatives mechanism to do so.

Ok, what is the "alternatives system"?

But this is answering my question... :)

@AaronHall Google "debian alternatives system"

@FaheemMitha en.wikipedia.org/w/… .... that's how you edit a talk page, just like any other page

the biggest difference is singing your stuff with ~~~~

@derobert You mean you edit the source? I got:

that's a shortcut to edit it and add a new section

@derobert Ok. But is it Ok to use that, then? Shortcuts are good when it come to editng markup.

@FaheemMitha yeah, it's fine to do it either way

@derobert Ok. Thanks.

@derobert You know about mail stuff, right? Are people with email addresses in the .info domain particularly subject to being treated as spam?

And if so, is there anything I can do about it, short of changing my email address?

@FaheemMitha not sure, don't think I'm doing any filtering like that, unless it's default in spamassassin

@derobert Ok. I do seem to end up in people's spam folders from time to time, though. Do you handle mail admin for your company?

@FaheemMitha company email has been outsourced to gmail...

well, Google Apps

@derobert Ugh.

@FaheemMitha you could email me at x4oanr0f@derobert.net (a temporary address I just made up) and I can tell you what the incoming scan says on it...

@derobert Done. Thanks.

X-Spam-Score: -4.8
X-Spam-Score-Int: -47
X-Spam-Bar: ----
X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no autolearn_force=no, SAvers=3.4.0, Rvers=1750237,
        host=Einstein.derobert.net, contact=…@derobert.net;
        AWL=-2.160,BAYES_00=-1.9,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7

so, you must have emailed me something before (hence the AWL), but... nothing is hitting except DNSWL, which is a good thing

@derobert Um. Can you interpret that for me?

@derobert AWL?

Do you have some spam filters running on your domain?

yeah, quite a bit of spam filtering

@derobert I see. Thanks.

@derobert Ok. So nothing obviously bad, then?

not that I've found so far

@derobert Ok. Thanks.

running a blacklist check on the sending server IP isn't finding anything either

@derobert Ok. That's good.

and your server even supports (and used) modern encryption to send the message

@derobert I think it's coming from Luxsci outside Boston. That's my mail host. Do the headers reflect that?

yeah, came through luxsci.com

My local machine hands off to them.

@derobert They seem like they are run my competent people. Even though they appear to be running Sendmail internally for some mysterious reason.

I once had some issue, and they sent me some internal logs. Which looked like Sendmail to me. But I might be wrong.

Forwarded it back to you so you can see all the headers, w/o me pasting private stuff in chat

@derobert Ok. Thanks.

The X-Spam-* stuff is added by my mail system

as are Return-Path and Delivered-To and Envelope-To

Ok

@derobert Message received. Is einstein your personal machine?

yep

well, one of my servers at home

@derobert Ok. Running Debian?

yeah, Jessie

Ok. Do you keep your servers on UPS's?

yeah, doesn't everyone???

I think it's weird not have have workstations & desktops on UPSes, much less servers!

@derobert No, I haven't always. My only machine is on a UPS now.