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9:31 AM
Hi
 
10:05 AM
Hi @LaraMaia. So, are you a Gentoo user, or an Arch user, or both? :-)
 
 
5 hours later…
2:41 PM
Guys? would you consider this statement correct?
: A driver is software that makes out of the instruction set architecture of a specific I/O device the standardised ABI that a Kernel uses, to use that type of device.
 
3:02 PM
@Junaga Not sure, it's kind fo hard to understand. Also, why are you restricting the definition of a driver only to I/O devices? And what's an ABI? Do you mean API or is that something else?
 
Application Binary Interface I read it on the systemcall article en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_call
uff, I only had low level stuff in mind. like Kernel modules. It's pretty hard to talk about this things because a driver basically is only a translation software right? So far, I didn't found anything about a subdivision for this. That specifies it, on to only drivers that basically (build up) the kernel.
 
right, translation software between whatever the kernel expects (exposed by its driver API) and whatever the device expects
the latter doesn't have much to do with an instruction set architecture
the ISA only matters for the firmware you run on the device, if any
 
Or do I see something maybe completely wrong?
Of yes
@StephenKitt that makes sense, thank you ^^
 
3:23 PM
Whatever Stephen said. He actually knows something about this sort of thing. Unlike me.
 
3:35 PM
thanks for your help anyway:P
>looking at his profile
DAMN, a debian developer, sure he has to do more with hardware then any of us.
software is just to big and to complex as that a single human could know how its entirety works, it's not like its extremely hard to learn, it's that we all just have a single lifetime for it, to try.
100 sth. rep user saying this. -> thats awkward
 
@Junaga Neither low reps nor high reps mean much. A high rep means you've spent a lot of time on the site. One of the few plusses of a high rep is that people are more inclined to take you seriously.
 
@Junaga the fact that I'm a Debian developer doesn't say much about my hardware knowledge ;-). But I have contributed driver patches to the Linux kernel! And please don't feel awkward, we all start out knowing nothing and there's always stuff to learn from every one.
@FaheemMitha ... sometimes even when we're wrong ;-)
 
Guys don't make me cry
please
 
@StephenKitt Indeed. :-)
 
 
2 hours later…
5:25 PM
@FaheemMitha Gentoo.
 
5:35 PM
from tldp:
If you try 'cat /boot/vmlinuz > /dev/dsp' (on a properly configured system) you should hear some sound on the speaker. That's the sound of your kernel!
Sounds pretty wtf, but it's not working for me x)
 
5:50 PM
@LaraMaia Ok.
 

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