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Braiam

12:00 AM

@Flimzy yeah

Flimzy

¿De dónde eres? En este momento estoy en Guadalajara, México.

mikeserv

@Ramesh - all men must die?

slm

@Patrick there goes the secret 8-)

Braiam

@Flimzy Republica Dominicana

mikeserv

ahh shite.

Flimzy

12:01 AM

Ah que bien... no la conozco. Quizá algún día.

Ramesh

@mikeserv, I thought that was greek. I knew only this term though

mikeserv

Anyone that didn't star that @slm vacation post, please do.

Braiam

in Root Access, Nov 14 '13 at 16:19, by Jimmy Hoffa

@Braiam you're lucky to live there though I gotta say: Driving through Santo Domingo was like driving in an arcade game. That was pure insanity, one of the most exhilirating, scary, hilarious things I'd ever done in a car.

mikeserv

gracias, whoever you are.

@Ramesh - regardless of whatever language it was, it certainly solves the who watches the watchers? problem pretty effectively.

terdon

It's Valyrian for crying out loud! Not Greek :)

Braiam

12:06 AM

in Root Access, 7 hours ago, by random

Since users keep approving tag wikis which are just product page or Wikipedia dumps, and add nothing to the site usage, don't be surprised if you're given a time out from reviewing

heh

Ramesh

oops.

I speak valyrian!

mikeserv

@terdon, I think it's actually Valyrian for all men must die...

terdon

:)

Ramesh

@mikeserv, actually its game of thrones :)

mikeserv

That was the first book, yeah.

The audiobooks are really good.

Ramesh

12:11 AM

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Q: Do "American" military movies generally profit outside of the US?

As an American, I enjoy watching movies based on the US and its military, and I want to know if these movies are popular outside of the US. I'm talking about movies of various genres that are based on the US government or war: White House Down Saving Private Ryan Patton Olympus Has Fallen Ja...

terdon

Depressingly so...

mikeserv

What the hell is white house down? Sounds like a bunch of bunnies in the oval office...

terdon

Geese, surely.

mikeserv

Watership Down

Watership Down is a classic adventure novel, written by English author Richard Adams, published by Rex Collings Ltd of London in 1972. Set in south-central England, the story features a small group of rabbits. Although they live in their natural environment, they are anthropomorphised, possessing their own culture, language (Lapine), proverbs, poetry, and mythology. Evoking epic themes, the novel is the Aeneid of the rabbits as they escape the destruction of their warren and seek a place to establish a new home, encountering perils and temptations along the way. Watership Down was Ri...

Ramesh

That was a retarded movie. Add to it, another movie pretty similar to it was olympus has fallen.

Both released at the same time.

mikeserv

12:15 AM

Careful using retarded. I once used it to describe ubuntu and accidentally insulted a whole class of people...

Ramesh

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mikeserv

Hmm.. Cartman posting South Park videos. Who'd a thunk it?

Gilles

4

Q: Installing from source - do I need to keep the extracted tarball directory

If I'm installing from source, do I need to keep the extracted tarball directory? So if I download the git tarball. I then do: tar -xvzf git.tar.gz This will create a git.x.x. directory, into which I cd, then run ./configure etc. Once I'm done with this process, and git, or whatever is instal...

compiling fhs

5

Q: What's the difference between Primary Selection and Clipboard Buffer?

I am tweaking in Webkit-browser land in Linux and I come accross the terms "Primary Selection" and "Clipboard selection or buffer" very often. I want to understand what are they and what difference do they have? Where does drag and drop pasting fit in? What is the job of xclip in this matter ...

x11 clipboard

I'm pretty sure these two have perfectly fine duplicates

Ramesh

12:30 AM

@Gilles got it.

0

Q: Cleaning after installation

Is it safe to remove the downloaded tar once the program is installed (once I run ./configure, make, make install)?

make configure

Gilles

@Ramesh thanks. Voting to close the earlier one, the new one has better answers

Ramesh

@Gilles, ok. I will also vtc.

terdon

3

Q: How many clipboards are in system?

I was recently thrown there from the windows world and I'd like to ask some questions about clipboards in Linux (and Unix?) systems. What is X clipboard? How many clipboards are in Linux? Actually, I'd like to copy command from terminal to clipboard and then paste it in an other application (gedi...

x11 clipboard

And the one it's been closed against.

Gilles

Hmmm, I think I remember a better answer than either unix.stackexchange.com/questions/77545/… or unix.stackexchange.com/questions/139191/… but I can't find it

Ramesh

What is the meaning of a folder displayed in bold green color?

mikeserv

12:41 AM

@Ramesh - link.

Gilles

@Ramesh in what program? mutt? that would depend on how you configured it

Ramesh

@Gilles, no in the ls command output I get the folder listed in bold green color.

@mikeserv, I also feel it should be symbolic link files.

mikeserv

@Ramesh - that's not it.

sguid - I think.

Ramesh

There is this folder named tmp in the above screen shot.

mikeserv

Is there a T?

Or maybe an S?

Gilles

12:43 AM

@Ramesh oh, you mean a directory with a bright green background. World-writable and sticky, I think.

Ramesh

@Gilles, yeah. I think the question is a good fit in the site.

I will post it in the site with the screenshot.

@mikeserv, not sure what you mean.

mikeserv

Same thing Gilles did.

Gilles

run dircolors --print-database | grep -w 42

mikeserv

in ls-l you should see dwrxwrT or dwrSwrx

Or maybe small.

Ramesh

@mikeserv, ls -l gives this.

Gilles

12:45 AM

green background is 42

mikeserv

But setuid or setguid

Ramesh

drwxrwxrwx 4 mysql mysql 4096 2012-09-05 00:23 tmp

mikeserv

That's world writable - 0777

Ramesh

@Gilles, yeah. 42 is Green.

mikeserv

1:45 AM

oh man. I'm watching The Lego Movie with little Michael. This is hilarious!

Braiam

2:33 AM

this is too cruel:

Maybe you just didn't deserve one :-) — Rory Alsop 17 hours ago

mikeserv

we're from the planet duplo and we are here to destroy you...

casey

2:55 AM

@FaheemMitha its still on my todo list unfortunately. I think I saw you mention this might be an issue between texlive 2012 vs 2013 and I'm on 2012 with no real plans to rock the boat and try a newer version.

Caleb

7:16 AM

Gah! Why do people so persistently try to solve normal problems by making dumb aliases involving rm?

Aliasing rm to anything larger than itself (e.g. alias rm='sudo rm') is like strapping a Uzi to a kitchen knife: someday you will get more than you bargained for when you go to cut that pineapple. Aliasing rm to anything smaller than itself (e.g. alias rm='rmtrash') is like letting your children play with disarmed hand grenades and not teaching them what they actually are: someday when they encounter a real one they won't treat it with the proper caution. Either way—aliasing rm is bad for your personal safety and public health! — Caleb 5 mins ago

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Faheem Mitha

8:12 AM

@casey Well, you could try it on your current system. testing for different setups can be done in chroots.

@casey I suspect PGF 2.10 -> 3.0 may have broken something.

But I haven't tested for that yet.

Jack Douglas

12:45 PM

@mikeserv no it isn't. Filesystems (eg btrfs, xfs, extN etc) live on top of block devices. mdadm and bcache work at the block device level not at the filesystem level (btrfs confuses the issue with it's layering violation, but that is a completely separate conversation). — Jack Douglas 2 mins ago

@mikeserv I think we are using different terminology here

Patrick

@terdon I think unix.stackexchange.com/users/73380/user73380 just needs a ban. Questions are just trolling

Jack Douglas

bcache is a filesystem, as is mdadm. How could they be otherwise? Easier might be just bcache then a btrfs raid. — mikeserv 13 mins ago

@mikeserv have you got a reference to show that the word 'filesystem' can be used like that?

terdon

@Patrick Yeah, I know. He might have decided to leave though:

@terdon, won't be editing sh*t man.. close all you want. will move on to google and etc and call it destiny from this perspective. — user73380 4 mins ago

Patrick

@terdon Saw that, but I'd bet money he'll be back :-)

terdon

If it continues, I'll do something more drastic.

I can use the practice :)

Jack Douglas

12:48 PM

@terdon congrats on the election.

terdon

Cheers :)

Braiam

@terdon mm... you don't feel that that is not a constructive comment

terdon

Yes, I do. I'll delete in a bit.

I was hoping one of the others would since it was directed at me. Probably being over cautious though.

Patrick

well it'll get deleted anyway when the whole question is deleted

terdon

Yeah. I'm just letting it be for a while in case this is not pure trolling and the OP actually edits it. I don't have very high hopes but I'll give him a little time.

Sod it, it's been flagged.

Braiam

12:58 PM

@terdon remember you are now a mod, you should do everything inhumanly possible to prevent things from escalating... going to the next level is never a good option

terdon

@Braiam Yeah, still searching for my balance is all.

mikeserv

@JackDouglas - I was just looking for one. I could have sworn this used to open: "bcache is a caching filesystem..." bcache.evilpiepirate.org

@JackDouglas - certainly it doesn't anymore anyway. So maybe I was wrong.

Jack Douglas

OK, cool

you can do something similar with ZFS which is a filesystem

mikeserv

1:13 PM

@JackDouglas - this is true, but regardless it operates by manipulating VFS right?

Kiwy

@terdon and @slm congrats for your nomination, as I vote for both of you, I obviously now expect a certain level of priviledge

mikeserv

@JackDouglas - one of the things I do with it a lot is echo <desired_vol_size><k/M/G> | /sys/fs/bcache/<cset-uuid>/flash_vol_create

Jack Douglas

@mikeserv VFS is completely orthogonal iiuc. it's a filesystem abstraction and not related to things at the block device level

@mikeserv because your distro doesn't package bcache-tools yet?

terdon

@Kiwy Obviously!

mikeserv

No, it's packaged, I think, AUR - anyway.

slm

1:18 PM

@Kiwy I still owe you for 2048 and that eliza song

mikeserv

That's just how the wiki says to do it.

slm

aliza (sp)?

Jack Douglas

@mikeserv why not use make-bcache then? (what's AUR mean?)

slm

►

mikeserv

Does it give you a free bcache backed flash volume?

slm

1:19 PM

alizee

damn song get's in your head, now my kids are singing it all the time, none of us speak french

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mikeserv

make-bcache formats a disk, flash_vol_create creates a new temporary volume out of a cached volume set.

@JackDouglas - OR at least it used to - when I was learning about it that was how it was done, and I haven't bothered to learn any new features of it since. I suppose that could have been incorporated by now - seems logical.

Jack Douglas

@mikeserv ooo

didn't know about that

mikeserv

ooo... which one? now you've got me curious.

Jack Douglas

thinly provisioned volumes in bcache

mikeserv

Ahh.

Jack Douglas

1:23 PM

isn't that LVM's job?

mikeserv

Yeah, they're handy. bcache - md - lvm?

That's suicide.

Jack Douglas

fortunately I don't need that

why suicide?

no reason why it shouldn't work

though thin provisioning in LVM is new and probably buggy, so I would avoid it for that reason

mikeserv

Yeah, there are a few notes from the maintainers - granted they're a year old now - that state specifically that if you put it on top of a raid it is better to use a physically maintaiined one.

Jack Douglas

maintainers for what, bcache?

mikeserv

yeah

Patrick

1:25 PM

@JackDouglas LVMs thin provisioning is used very heavily by docker. seems quite stable

Jack Douglas

OK, a year is a long time in bcache, it's only in the kernel since 3.10

terdon

@slm Which is the only reason you're singing it.

mikeserv

I know - I was a very early adopter.

Jack Douglas

@Patrick good to know that, thanks.

mikeserv

and that maybe partly why I stress keeping it simple.

maye it's better now, but I've had enough problems with it to know that when it goes wrong it goes very wrong.

I try not to mess with it too much - just let it do its thing.

Jack Douglas

1:28 PM

I'm forward planning for a deployment next year, now I'm using F20 on a test rig - later I'll be on RHEL/CentOS7 or Debian Jessie

preferably the latter, if they get a move on and package bcache-tools!

mikeserv

well, I've never used any of those - I've always been bleeding edge.

just pack it up youorself - it's pretty simply built.

Jack Douglas

I'm still uncomfortable about using anything that new, but my rule of thumb is if it's in RHEL or Debian stable it's probably reliable enough for me :)

mikeserv

openssl was in both...

Jack Douglas

reliable<>"security bug free"

2

reliable="does not crash my clients VMs"

mikeserv

...

Kiwy

1:47 PM

@slm fucking awsomeness

@terdon I'm glad we are on the same page !

btw 2048 is now a bit old shcool the "boobsified" version is way more attractive

Braiam

@slm is a conspiracy!

Kiwy

@Braiam yep :)

polym

2:09 PM

want to hear yourself? Ubuntu: arecord -f dat | aplay or dd if=/dev/dsp | aplay

casey

2:58 PM

@FaheemMitha I could do that, but its on the back burner for now. I'm going to be busy writing and prepping for my comprehensive exam for a while

@slm If your kids are boys of adolescent age, they aren't watching Alizee for the music

terdon

@casey No, but slm is. Obviously.

slm

@casey They've never seen the video for obvious reasons 8-). Plus I have 2 girls and 1 boy and they're all under 10

casey

@slm ah, well the risk with girls is they might want to emulate that style of dress

@slm I have my hands full with a single 8 month old, I'd lose my mind if I had any more I think. I think my wife suspects I already have though...

lost my mind that is, no secret children.

Braiam

@casey is good to see that you make that clear early

I hope we reach the day we can answer everything with a XKCD... hey, I can with this one — Braiam 10 secs ago

casey

3:23 PM

I'm just going to leave this here for @slm

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Faheem Mitha

@casey ok

Kiwy

@casey you made my day, though it was already really nice

slm

@casey yeah I lost my mind years ago. They're crazy...and have driven me there too....

@casey What the hell is going on in France?

casey

3:38 PM

@slm it could be worse, just look at what Japan is capable of

or rather, dont :)

Braiam

@casey hey! Japan is cool

casey

@Braiam I never said they weren't. Some very odd / disturbing things do come out of that country though :)

Braiam

@casey only if you know where to find them....

casey

@Braiam that is one of that many reasons I stay away from 4chan

Kiwy

Japan is amazingly creative....
but the creativity is something that shouldn't be that extrem

casey

3:56 PM

time to go watch 2 soccer games at once and see if USA can make it...

Braiam

I finally found several seeders that are fast enough to keep my download going, just to run out of space :(

terdon

Ouch

derobert

@casey I think you ought not allow singers of inane songs access to your flight controls. Just sayin'.

Patrick

@terdon we need a ban on this guy. it's getting ridiculous: unix.stackexchange.com/questions/139382/…

terdon

Again?

Damn, hang on.

mikeserv

4:02 PM

@casey there's no one on that plane.

Patrick

or at least a strong warning to knock it off

mikeserv

@Patrick just answer with a spell

or some voodoo dolls

derobert

@Patrick And yet I'm the only close vote on that?

Patrick

@derobert I was going to flag it, rather than vote to close, but came here instead. I really should use the official tools though :-/

derobert

and @mikeserv you can't troll a troll. It just doesn't work.

mikeserv

4:08 PM

but trolls are fun.

Braiam

there's a bunch of not constructive comments that needs to burn

derobert

@terdon welcome to being a mod! :-P

Braiam

And exactly how that helps you to solve your problem? — Braiam 4 secs ago

mikeserv

@Braiam's was the best comment there. just saying.

Patrick

There, I flagged it. Moderators can deal with it through official channels :-)

derobert

4:11 PM

Oooh, we can all flag the comments, so terdon can keep his flag-handle count higher than slm,.

Patrick

lol

mikeserv

it was an expertly crafted 'take that, crazy'.

derobert

but seriously everyone, stop feeding the troll

Caleb

Stop feeding the trolls! I don't care how reasonable the rest of you chaps are, nothing about that guy strikes me as "listening to reason" to me. Better let it go.

Patrick

“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.”

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derobert

4:14 PM

@Caleb beat you to it :-)

Braiam

@Patrick that needs to be pinned

Caleb

@derobert No you didn't. That second sentence of mine slowed town transmission of the TCP packets over the wire ;-)

derobert

@Caleb Not my fault you're using a 300 baud modem.

Rojo

Hey guys. Do you know, if I buy a standard blu-ray recorder, if I run the risk of having driver trouble in Linux?

derobert

@Rojo No, they should just work. At least for SATA and USB. And probably SCSI, if there is such a thing.

Also for IDE, if there is such a thing

Rojo

4:16 PM

@derobert Grrreat

Braiam

@derobert IDE + Blueray is plain wrong... the lag is just otherworldly

derobert

@Braiam hmmm, IDE should be fine for bluray, at least if its running in UDMA mode. That could do up to 100MB/sec, if I remember correctly.

I don't know if anyone ever made one, though. Bluray is fairly new, and IDE isn't.

Hah, @slm showed up and closed the question.

Patrick

@derobert Well he was vote #5 anyway

derobert

Yep. So he didn't get to use his newfound superpowers.

Well, except he gets to read deleted comments, I think.

Patrick

yes, that's what I've heard.

Wow, the comment stream on that question is amusing

stupid, incredibly stupid, but amusing nonetheless

terdon

4:24 PM

What if we just tell him to alias rationalImageConverter='convert' ?

slm

@Patrick @derobert I waited...

mikeserv

you should have let him use image voodoo.

slm

@mikeserv yeah I used to be amused with the trolls too, it's best to not engage them, it typically just spirals out of control

mikeserv

it's just a website. control is as simple as ctrl+tab

Braiam

and I go eat bananas :)

mikeserv

4:28 PM

both are good

derobert

unix.stackexchange.com/questions/139335/… ... he already even has an answer there to how to resize an image w/o imagemagic. His only real attempt to ask the question.

mikeserv

dang. slm's vacation fell off the star chart again. anyone that hasn't - will you find it and star it?

derobert

22 hours ago, by Patrick

Did you know slm is on vacation? He should have lots of time to write a blog post! :-P

... it's still there for me.

mikeserv

I had to click show 5 more...

derobert

My window must be taller, I get 10 on screen

Braiam

4:31 PM

@mikeserv hey, you are lucky... I have to "click to show 8 more..."

mikeserv

probably... the grass is always greener...

slm

accounts been suspended

Patrick

awww.
back to work everyone...

mikeserv

I took my kid to the ice cream shop a few weeks ago - some other kid came in with his parents to get an ice cream cake while little Michael slurped up his ice cream cone.

He noticed and he got a little jealous.

I thought it was hilarious.

@terdon - let CARL SAGAN be a lesson to you.

Ramesh

I missed the troll sigh!

mikeserv

4:36 PM

That reminds me of The Dark Tower.

thanks, @Caleb - that alias ... sudo rm thing was incredibly bad advice.

everyone should upvote that question too - it'll help prevent other similar ones being asked.

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Q: Give user permission to rm without password or sudo

I'm trying to give the ubuntu user on my machine the ability to rm folders and files (mainly in the /www/ folder) without the need to invoke a password or the need to use sudo. I've been following this article and ended up trying this in my sudoers file. ubuntu ALL = (ALL) NOPASSWD: /bin/rm ...

ubuntu permissions sudo rm

Caleb

@mikeserv No kidding. And a minor cryptic warning was not enough! The questioner went right ahead and wanted to know how to do it the wrong way, and the author went right ahead and fed them the howto for the wrong way. Double oops!

mikeserv

yeah - it was pretty awful. you did very well with it, thank you.

Ramesh

caleb to the rescue!!

Caleb

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Q: How can I make 'rm' move files to the trash can?

I use the terminal on a daily basis, I will often use rm DirectoryName, sometimes I get a little crazy and do rm * As you can imagine these shenanigans have sometimes come back and hit me in the face. Does anyone know how I create a mapping so rm whatever moves everything to the trashcan which ...

trash console

The last answer there suggesting alias rm='rmtrash' was the accepted answer when I first saw that!

Ramesh

ha, is it me or some one else also read the answer as wife's boss :P

mikeserv

4:46 PM

even the first is bad - aliasing rm to prompt only develops a habit of expecting it to prompt.

Caleb

Same story. Unwitting asker gets bad advice and bad advice is usually easier / tastier than good advice and it takes a lot of selling to turn it around.

slm

If you notice any trolls today pls do not engage, this is the same guy we've dealt w/ before, he's a known spammer that has plagued SO in the past, best to route him out and delete

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mikeserv

shucks

Caleb

@slm Aye aye sir.

mikeserv

routing him out sounds like a task for an evil carpenter.

Caleb

4:48 PM

Will fly a Jolly Roger if I see 'em again.

mikeserv

@Ramesh - which one?

Ramesh

@mikeserv, The answer for this question.

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Q: How can I make 'rm' move files to the trash can?

I use the terminal on a daily basis, I will often use rm DirectoryName, sometimes I get a little crazy and do rm * As you can imagine these shenanigans have sometimes come back and hit me in the face. Does anyone know how I create a mapping so rm whatever moves everything to the trashcan which ...

trash console

mikeserv

if anyone wants to gain easy reputation, just head over to academia.stackexchange.com. I have only one answer there that amounted to: everybody poops more or less and I have 371 reputation.

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A: How should bathroom breaks be handled during written exams to avoid cheating?

Forbidding use of restroom facilities is extreme and more than a little ridiculous. If a student is resourceful enough to defeat your exam's purpose (which should be to measure a student's capability in a particular subject) without your certain discovery given only the use of a few minutes and a...

Ramesh

The best thing is to keep a timed quiz in PC.

Even if the person needs the bathroom break, the timer won't stop.

mikeserv

See? You too could have 370 rep or better!

Ramesh

4:59 PM

For me, the exams are open book. So there is no use hiding books in the bathroom.

mikeserv

Yeah, the premise of the question is - how do I restrict new learning techniques from affecting my outdated exam practices?

Ramesh

Unfortunately, even with open book exams, I have seen people cheating by passing written notes in the rough sheet.

mikeserv

never fear - eventually one or two of them will be your boss(es), and they'll be just as useless there. But it doesn't last.

Ramesh

Is it the same troller again?

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Q: No alternative to İmageMagick from year 1999 to 2053?

This article is on ibm.com's web site. Currently the year is 2053. http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-graf/ The year on that article reads.. 2003 that is correct.. since 2003.. there has been no alternatives to İmageMagick we are forced to use AOL style software designs.. a comma...

bash

mikeserv

that title is hilarious!

Someone call CARL SAGAN!

i wish @slm hadn't so explicitly forbid fun...

Patrick

5:05 PM

@Ramesh I would bet you my paycheck it is

Ramesh

I wish it is a genuine question so that I get @Patrick's paycheck.

terdon

@Patrick you owe @Ramesh a paycheck.

mikeserv

!!!

Patrick

@terdon how do you figure?

derobert

@mikeserv I don't see the Carl Sagan reference; what am I missing?

terdon

5:07 PM

Well, you would had he bet against you.

Ramesh

Does the troller create those many accounts just to troll?

Patrick

@terdon I mean how do you figure it's not the same person?

Ramesh

I once wanted to automate that process but google couldn't let me create without captcha.

mikeserv

@derobert - page not found

terdon

@Patrick Had he bet against you. It was the same.

@derobert Our old troll friend's back. Posting silly comments.

mikeserv

5:08 PM

it was the troll's last comment. sorry - but it was a good one.

@derobert - CARL SAGAN thought he had it all together, too. then he died. 1995. or maybe it was 1996.

derobert

Ah! I guess terdon or slm cleaned up that comment

mikeserv

That's a paraphrase, but I think it's close.

derobert

@terdon Yep. And stupid questions.

mikeserv

@terdon - do you remember it better?

terdon

> @terdon, you see CARL SAGAN thought he was so smart.. and then he found out his actions and thoughts had reflection.. he experienced lots of pain .. his hair all fell off and etc.. died of nomonia or something in 1995 i think. maybe 1996

derobert

5:09 PM

@terdon can just see the deleted comment, I think

mikeserv

his hair fell off!!

terdon

shudders

derobert

don't forget and etc!

terdon

It's the nomonia I'm really afraid of.

mikeserv

I didn't forget... i just couldn't type very well...

Ramesh

5:10 PM

How does the new account creation works for SE sites?

terdon

Perhaps he meant gnomonia, noun: killed ny Gnome devs

derobert

Once it fell off, who knows what that hair did! That must be the 'and etc'

mikeserv

until 2053!

Ramesh

I mean, I just use the google account.

derobert

@mikeserv By 2053, GNOME devs ought to have succeeded in removing all features

terdon

5:11 PM

@Ramesh All you need is an email.

Ramesh

BACK

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Q: How to import "ALLAH AKBAR" in PYTHON as an alternative to "Beautiful Soup" to remix some next gen reg ex?

The whole image magick thing feels like AOL from command line. is there a better command line image manipulation tool other than İMAGEMAGİCK

python php html javascript

I smell something really bad here

mikeserv

yeah, probably true. they think they're so smart...

terdon

Actually, it's nice to have a simple case like this. It helps me learn the mod tools :)

mikeserv

@terdon - just try to take pictures sometimes before you nuke em

derobert

@Ramesh I don't believe you were around last time, but we've had a troll attack before. Last time we had fewer mods on hand to deal with it, so thankfully he's picked shortly after we gained two mods.

mikeserv

5:14 PM

Man that's funny.

Ramesh

Whoever catches the next troll will get to have @terdon's paycheck :P

mikeserv

take pictures and post em on some anonymous website or something.

derobert

@mikeserv FYI, once you get to 10k rep, those questions are still there.

mikeserv

oh, really? now that is motivating.

terdon

You're welcome to it. I'm actually between jobs at the moment.

Michael Mrozek

5:15 PM

unix.stackexchange.com/help/privileges/moderator-tools

derobert

Yep, at 10k rep, you can see almost all deleted questions. Obviously, that doesn't apply to any deleted for legal reasons, and also doesn't apply to certain boat-programming questions on SO, because they were nuked from orbit.

Ramesh

@derobert, that's relieving as we have 4 mods around now.

mikeserv

I'm kinda sad you guys deleted my last comment there though about this - davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=178731

Patrick

@terdon Oh, oh, come work for us! I'd love to have the whole U&L crew working at the same place :-)

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mikeserv

thanks, @MichaelMrozek.

terdon

5:17 PM

@mikeserv Yeah, that one was funny.

Ramesh

I starred @Patrick's comment! Yaay

terdon

@Patrick Heh, not quite ready to move yet :)

mikeserv

I forget what it said too though - can you post that one too. I said... my eyes crossed or something...

terdon

> I found this link to shapechanger - supposed to have something to do with it. My eyes crossed trying to use it though, so I couldn't clearly see if it was working... – mikeserv 1 hour ago

Ramesh

Do they pay trollers to do this?

could be a nice job though I guess.

mikeserv

5:21 PM

they?

Ramesh

I mean someone.

mikeserv

I mean who? I could do that job.

Patrick

@Ramesh Being a good troll takes talent. That guy is an amateur.

derobert

@Patrick Errr, that's like saying I'm an amateur ice hockey player, despite the fact that I haven't ever ice skated.

Ramesh

@Patrick, that's right. I wish they just had one course in school in which they taught trolling.

slm

5:24 PM

@Patrick did you mention it?

Patrick

@slm mention what? What I think you're referring to? No, not my place.

mikeserv

I guess I still had a tab open, but I missed this one before: I very much would like to uninstall and never touch ls again, since I can't browse the web with it. That's pretty much how you sound. - @gniourf_gniourf

derobert

@Ramesh They do, it's called literature (/me runs)

mikeserv

I like that guy.

slm

yeah I saw your comment to terdon

wait until monday

Ramesh

5:26 PM

@derobert, I mean more from computer side. Just security stuffs and those things.

It would be fun to hack into someone else's machine and make some changes in their PCs and make them scream. (Just for fun part though).

derobert

Various places do have courses in finding vulnerabilities, etc.

And those definitely include breaking into machines.

And people set up competitions for that...

mikeserv

@Ramesh finally shows his true colors.

Unless it really is Cartman...

Ramesh

@mikeserv, I am Eric Cartman.

mikeserv

that explains the desire to do evil.

just for fun

Ramesh

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derobert

5:32 PM

He can't really be Cartman. He hasn't repeatedly yelled for us to "respect my authoritah!"

Nor has he gone around riding Cthulhu.

Patrick

Jun 20 at 17:25, by Ramesh

@mikeserv, Respect my authoritah.

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you were saying... :-)

mikeserv

yup.

derobert

@Patrick That's one, six days ago! Real Cartman says that many times per hour.

Patrick

ok, I'll give you that

Ramesh

@derobert, cartman has told it only 4 times if I remember it correctly.

strugee

5:34 PM

@Patrick that would be so great

derobert

@Ramesh Really? If only I could convince the boss I need to watch all of South Park (again) at work, to verify that statement.

Ramesh

@derobert, I am pretty sure. The first time he says in an episode from 2nd season (I think chickenlover is the episode name).

And then he says it in couple of more occasions (I think once when he is a kung fu warrior or something).

mikeserv

@Ramesh : leafing through old scripts, huh?

@derobert - fool me once ...

Ramesh

@mikeserv, I find it strange to sleep to south park episodes.

I started with family guy. It was ok, then moved to south park and now on to the simpsons.

derobert

@mikeserv Hah, I just reread what I wrote. I mean watch South Park again, as in I've seen them all before, not that I've watched them all at work before. That would have been awesome to have some real reason to have to watch them at work...

mikeserv

5:44 PM

@derobert - I liked it better the other way.

the imagemagick circa 2053 question is still at the top of my list...

Ramesh

@derobert, is it a bad idea to just dump the data directory folders alone?

I believe if we do that we could save lots of time instead of trying to create the database using the mysql command.

derobert

@Ramesh You can do a physical backup (that's what DBAs call that) of MySQL... best to check the docs or maybe dba.se for instructions. Because you have to make sure to do it correctly.

Ramesh

@derobert, sure. I will check in db stack exchange.

derobert

The docs too. I'm pretty sure the MySQL manual tells you how to take backups.

Anyway, off to lunch.

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