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Patrick
Patrick
12:27 AM
One of our master users just announced that he downvotes all bash read loops... ;-) — Hauke Laging 11 mins ago
who?
 
Gilles
Gilles
not me
Can someone create a tag wiki for gnome-dash? Is it really the Gnome Dash or the Unity Dash? I wasn't sure about the name when I created the tag
(dash is the dash shell, by an overwhelming majority of usage on this site)
 
Braiam
Braiam
"unity-dash" if it's about the thing Ubuntu uses (gnome whatever isn't called dash, IMO)
 
Gilles
Gilles
I'm not sure, someone who uses Gnome or Unity please look at the two questions with that tag and rename if necessary
 
Braiam
Braiam
I have no idea which dash this guy talking about (there's no hints) the other is well applied according to gnome (through the screen shot shows the application picker)
the first guy can be may be wrong to say "dash" and meant "application picker"
 
Ramesh
Ramesh
12:53 AM
@Patrick, what does it mean? Is there someone downvoting?
One of our master users just announced that he downvotes all bash read loops... ;-)
 
Braiam
Braiam
1:16 AM
I'm really that bad guy?
in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, yesterday, by Shadow Wizard
@Braiam now you caused "porn" to appear in the star board. Hope you're happy! ;)
 
slm
slm
2:01 AM
@Ramesh @Patrick not me either, I took that as a joke
 
Ramesh
Ramesh
@slm, I also did not notice anything like that till now :)
 
strugee
strugee
2:42 AM
@Braiam @Gilles I use GNOME. the general "fade-out window spread" thing is called the Activities Overview.
specifically, the grid of applications is (I believe) called the Applications Overlay
that I'm much less sure about
 
Gilles
Gilles
3:29 AM
@mikeserv Oh, did you downvote by mistake? I've made an edit
 
mikeserv
mikeserv
3:49 AM
Yeah - its a good answer. Its just harder to be precise with 7" of U/L - sorry, @Gilles.
I fixed it minutes 3 minutes after your edit though.
 
strugee
strugee
4:29 AM
so did you guys hear about TrueCrypt?
 
Braiam
Braiam
in windows mostly
 
strugee
strugee
the news, I mean
go visit truecrypt.org
What's wrong with http://www.truecrypt.org? This seems very sketchy, /cc @kaepora @ioerror @matthew_d_green @csoghoian http://t.co/fSQZI6ZEjl
Tweeted by f3ndot on May 28, 2014 at 7:08 PM
 
Braiam
Braiam
@SteveBellovin @mattblaze @0xdaeda1a I think this is legit.
Tweeted by matthew_d_green on May 28, 2014 at 8:38 PM in reply to SteveBellovin
 
strugee
strugee
maybe, but it's all so sketchy.
the key validates.
 
Braiam
Braiam
yeah, right now everybody is in panic, and somebody is fishing in
 
strugee
strugee
4:42 AM
idk, people think all sorts of things.
 
slm
slm
5:41 AM
regarding truecrypt
 
slm
slm
5:54 AM
Also from krebs
 
 
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derobert
derobert
8:49 AM
TRUECRYPT IS FINE PLEASE CONTINUE USING FOR ALL SECRET DOCUMENTS
Tweeted by NSA_PR on May 28, 2014 at 10:31 PM
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mikeserv
mikeserv
9:01 AM
@StephaneChezales - probably you, of all people, know, but I did notice this in man bash today - gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bashref.html#Locale-Translation
A double-quoted string preceded by a dollar sign (‘$’) will cause the string to be translated according to the current locale.
How reliable is that?
 
 
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goldilocks
goldilocks
12:24 PM
The King is dead, long live the King!
 
slm
slm
1:17 PM
Anyone know anything about this alternative?
 
 
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Braiam
Braiam
2:17 PM
anyone know how many dns entries should I be cacheing?
I've set 1000 but I'm not seeing an performance improvement in page loads (unless dammed dns entries are set to expire in minutes)
 
Caleb
Caleb
@Braiam How are you profiling this for your test? DNS chaching makes a difference but your ability to detect it in the noise of everything else that happens during "page loading" is doubtful at best.
 
Braiam
Braiam
@Caleb I dig the domain first, then open up the network tab in the dev tools and check the time it takes to resolve dns when I visit, or backwards, open a random webpage and then measure with dig the query time
apparently is working now.... some pages use a WTF ttl's of minutes
I wonder what's "Waiting"
 
Patrick
Patrick
2:56 PM
@Braiam A lot of cloud systems use a TTL of minutes. It's a requirement for DNS based failover
 
derobert
derobert
3:48 PM
@mikeserv Sounds like a good question for the site. First I've heard of that feature, and the bash manpage fails to give details.
Google of course suggests: stackoverflow.com/questions/2221562/using-gettext-in-bash ... which is a link-only answer.
mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/098 ... to a very good link.
 
Braiam
Braiam
@derobert COME ON!
in other hand, as seen in the DMZ:
 
derobert
derobert
@Braiam Hah, note I did call it a link-only answer to a very good link.
 
Rojo
Rojo
Morning
 
derobert
derobert
4:13 PM
0
Q: Assembly language question

AbKDsIs it okay to ask a question regarding a boot-loader program that has been written in x86 assembly language ?

discussion questions
... is that even close?
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
hi @derobert
 
derobert
derobert
hey
@strugee BTW, about the blog, I expect to have some time this weekend. I will try to write something. Things I know I have to write about are RAID recovery, NTP, and make replacements.
 
Ramesh
Ramesh
Dear God, why did I look at this question......
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Q: OK we're all adults here, so really, how on earth should I use a squat toilet?

hippietrailOK so for anyone that's travelled beyond North America and Western Europe you know what I'm talking about. Left: Romania, last year. Right: Turkey, last night. They start popping up in the Balkans and of course they're everywhere by the time you get to Turkey and become totally unavoidable no ...

tips-and-tricks asia eastern-europe hygiene
 
goldilocks
goldilocks
4:31 PM
@Ramesh Kind of frightening that someone managed to make it far enough though life to have a grey beard but be thrown a curve ball when there's no toilet around. "Hippietrail" -> I doubt it some how. More like "finally made it out of the house trail", lol.
 
Gilles
Gilles
@Ramesh there's the symmetric question as well
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Q: How can I wash myself Indian-style (using water not toilet paper) in Western toilets?

Aditya SomaniAs an Indian I have grown up in Delhi using water to wash after using the toilet instead of toilet paper. In Indian culture this is considered a cleaner practice because of the use of water in order to wash the privates instead of toilet paper which may leave a residue. Although I was able to co...

usa europe hygiene western-europe
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
4:43 PM
Western style toilets are actually very common at least in India. I've only been driven to use the squat style in extreme emergencies.
 
derobert
derobert
Seems like wipe /proc/self/fd/1 (or /dev/stdout) should work...
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Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@derobert That's probably intended as a joke, but I didn't get it.
Washing with and without water is one of the more notable cultural differences between say India and the West. There are many others, of course.
 
derobert
derobert
@FaheemMitha Yes, definitely a joke. I don't think the wipe command can actually clean one's rear.
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
I didn't realise squatting toilets were so common internationally. i've never come across them in europe or the us, except one time in france. which was weird.
 
Gilles
Gilles
@FaheemMitha they're the norm in a large part of Asia. They're uncommon in Europe except in the Balkans.
In France, they're known as “Turkish-style toilets”, and they're rare
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
4:49 PM
@Gilles Apparently so.
I guess I haven't travelled enough to notice.
I imagine a squat toilet must be a really uncomfortable position if you are not used to it. Unless you do yoga. It sort of approximates to a yoga pose.
And if you have knee problems it might be really unpleasant.
@Ramesh Any particular reason for posting this?
 
Ramesh
Ramesh
@goldilocks, @Gilles, there was a detailed video explanation on that too. I saw that too and can't believe I just saw that video in that question.
@FaheemMitha, I was just browsing through the highest voted questions in all sites.
When I saw this particular question, it was kind of funny :)
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@Ramesh Hmm, well at least it is a generally useful question/answer.
 
Ramesh
Ramesh
@FaheemMitha, yeah :)
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
One of the notable things about those Indian squatting things, is that (a) usually no proper hooks (b) the floor is usually awash with water. It is like they just want to make the whole thing as unpleasant as possible. Typically India.
 
Ramesh
Ramesh
@FaheemMitha, unfortunately that is still a problem in our country. If you take a look at this article, you will realize how bad it is :(
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
5:03 PM
@Ramesh There are lots of problems in our country.
Wow, that's a fun article.
Actually, calling India a hellhole seems more descriptive somehow. Especially if you are lucky enough to be poor.
@Ramesh I forget, you said you are in Texas Arlington? Or do I have you confused with someone else?
 
Ramesh
Ramesh
@FaheemMitha, you are correct :)
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@Ramesh Nice to know I got something right for once.
Interesting, public defecation in China is rare. I wonder why. Otherwise the two countries are quite similar, afaik.
"India also suffers from a horrible sense of priorities." Heh, that's quite the understatement.
 
Ramesh
Ramesh
@FaheemMitha, that site actually is good in their criticisms.
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@Ramesh I've never been to Texas. I've heard sort of good things about Houston and Austin. I don't know anything about Arlington.
@Ramesh You mean accurate?
I'm not familar with this site. I don't usually go out of my way to read about India - it is too depressing.
 
Ramesh
Ramesh
@FaheemMitha, I like Arlington for the reason that it is very very quiet city. It is not a happening city like New york or Chicago. No night life and nothing of that sort.
 
Patrick
Patrick
5:10 PM
I'm fairly certain the answer is that it can't be done, but does anyone know of a way to set the tcp_retries1/2 values per host or subnet at the OS level (aside from a connect() wrapper in LD_PRELOAD)?
 
Ramesh
Ramesh
@Patrick, thanks. You have given a new topic for me to spend the rest of the day :) I will look into these topics.
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@Ramesh Personally I'd like something at least a bit happening. I've heard that Houston has a good dance scene, which seems a plus.
 
Patrick
Patrick
@Ramesh not for the feint of heart :-)
I'm actually surprised this isn't something that's been added to the linux kernel already. It seems common sense that you'd want a lower TCP timeout for local LAN
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
I wonder who posted that article. It certainly doesn't pull its punches.
"No other country comes even remotely close to that benighted land in filth, inequality, injustice and savagery.
India’s sole claim to fame is as the world’s largest public toilet."
Ok, I'm impressed. But I think the author should have put his name on the article.
Or her name. Whatever.
@Ramesh you are a CS student?
 
Braiam
Braiam
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
5:21 PM
@Braiam Something upset you?
 
Patrick
Patrick
it's a clicky
 
Ramesh
Ramesh
@FaheemMitha,yeah I am a CS student :)
 
Braiam
Braiam
> I have an xml file that is calling a shell to run some commands.
just why?!
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@Braiam Maybe he has his reasons.
 
Gilles
Gilles
@Braiam shurg why not? It happens.
the XML part is irrelevant anyway
 
Ramesh
Ramesh
5:28 PM
Does anyone know how nessus tool scans the machines in networks?
 
Braiam
Braiam
@Gilles you sure? I've never tried it, but must be the parser issue
 
slm
slm
5:59 PM
@Ramesh how do you mean? It opens up ports on IPs that it finds
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@Ramesh actually, it looks like Arlington has something of a dance scene too.
 
Ramesh
Ramesh
@slm, recently the tool scanned all the machines available in our network.
Now, it did not scan the machines which are set up as a local network. For example, we had a router which got its static IP from the school network. Within this router, we had setup 10 machines in a local network.
So my question was, will the tool won't scan if something is setup as local/private network?
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@derobert looks like i'll probably go with the Brother dcp7965dn. There is another brother printer available with duplex scanning, but it is over Rs 40,000, and I can't really justify the expense.
 
Patrick
Patrick
@ramesh If the target machines are sitting behind a NAT, nessus can't even get to them.
 
derobert
derobert
@FaheemMitha At the prices you're paying, I'd be tempted to use pen and paper!
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
6:11 PM
@derobert :-) I can't do a scan with pen and paper.
I wonder how old consumer scanners are.
 
derobert
derobert
@FaheemMitha you can make a copy with tracing paper
 
Ramesh
Ramesh
@Patrick, thanks. So does that mean if I just get a static IP for my router and set my local network, I can open/close any port available without the threat of security team?
 
derobert
derobert
or with a light/mirror setup.
(forget the name of that)
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@derobert Interesting idea.
@derobert not sure what you mean.
 
Ramesh
Ramesh
@FaheemMitha, may be :) But nothing near my school actually.
 
Patrick
Patrick
6:13 PM
@Ramesh you mean do you need to worry about the security team jumping on you for stuff running in the NATed network? not likely. Unless you're port forwarding on the NAT gateway, they have no clue what you're doing on that network :-)
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@Ramesh How do you know? Have you checked? Also, Arlington is like 300,000 people. Even allowing for North American sprawl, it can't be that large.
 
derobert
derobert
@FaheemMitha there is an optical setup you can use to put an original under a lamp, and then project that image onto a blank sheet of paper
forget the name of it, though.
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@derobert Interesting. Never heard of that.
 
derobert
derobert
This isn't a process that'd be used on text, of course. Easier to just read & re-write the text.
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@derobert Too seventeenth century for me.
@derobert how is the swimming app panning out?
Funny mercurial changeset/commit.
changeset: 21609:63cc2594ef8a
user: Pierre-Yves David <pierre-yves.david@fb.com>
date: Fri May 23 17:17:39 2014 -0700
files: mercurial/bundle2.py
description:
bundle2: make sure unbundled part param are read-only

My old uncle Robert once trusted an API user. We never saw him again.
I'm not sure what it means, though.
 
derobert
derobert
6:50 PM
@FaheemMitha Pool app is working out well so far. Haven't checked the quality of the checkin data we're gathering yet, though. At least if they're scanning the passes that'll get logged even if they don't hit the check in button.
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@derobert You set up the scanning thing too?
 
strugee
strugee
guys, pray to the Stack Exchange gods for me. I've just proposed a new site.
also: how is it that Area 51 doesn't onebox?
@derobert oh, awesome! keep me posted.
 
Braiam
Braiam
@strugee is a referrer link, those doesn't onebox
 
strugee
strugee
(fair warning: it's finals week for me so I may be unresponsive this particular weekend)
gotcha.
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
7:13 PM
@strugee Looks a bit specialist. Won't this fall under one of the existing computer related sites?
I don't even know what a federation protocol is.
 
Ramesh
Ramesh
7:33 PM
@slm, should this question be closed or left open? I feel the reason should be pretty much on the lines of "Questions describing a problem that can't be reproduced and seemingly went away on its own (or went away when a typo was fixed) are off-topic as they are unlikely to help future readers.".
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Q: IP Address not reachable

Manu ZiI have a problem with calling the command ifconfig / ip addr show Background: I have a Typo 3 installation using kernel 2.6.32 on a Virtual Machine (VMWare). It worked fine until last Sunday. On Sunday I traveled with it on the train where I was without a network connection. When I started up...

linux debian networking virtual-machine vmware
 
slm
slm
@Ramesh I voted to close as too broad
I toyed with the idea "Ques. describ..." but the problem hasn't gone away 8-)
 
Ramesh
Ramesh
@slm, yeah but the OP has mentioned in the comment that he did not turn on the network adapter :) Anyways, I also voted to close as too broad.
 
slm
slm
@Ramesh - ah...missed that comment...oh well...
 
derobert
derobert
8:02 PM
@FaheemMitha Yeah, with a USB barcode scanner.
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@derobert I see.
 
derobert
derobert
Those are $25 here, or no doubt eleventy billion there.
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
8:44 PM
@derobert Probably not quite that much.
 
Ramesh
Ramesh
It would help if you would just write the script for me, I'm retarded when it comes to stuff like this. That's why I came here. — user68973 9 mins ago
wow! I mean wow!
 
Patrick
Patrick
Lol, and people were complaining to me when I closed that other "write the script for me' question the other day...
 
Ramesh
Ramesh
@Patrick, I can write up a script for him but I need some compensation :)
 
derobert
derobert
OP appears to have mistaken Unix.SE for rentacoder (does that still exist?)
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@Ramesh Well, at least he is honest.
 
Ramesh
Ramesh
8:50 PM
I think so. The other day I saw the link in chat and I visited it. It seems to be still available.
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
I want people to write scripts for me too, dammit.
 
Patrick
Patrick
I'm thinking that's a troll though
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
If I was the Pharaoh of Ancient Egypt I would get my slaves to sit around writing code all day.
@Patrick Why?
 
Ramesh
Ramesh
@FaheemMitha, may be. But I like the fact that, he still is replying after receiving so many negative votes too.
 
Patrick
Patrick
@FaheemMitha The comments, they just smell trollish
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
8:52 PM
@Ramesh Maybe he doesn't realise that lots of downvotes means bug off in SE speak.
Is the answer sensible? I can't be bothered to read it.
 
Ramesh
Ramesh
trolling the troller..
What you searched in google? Can you be more specific? — Ramesh 18 secs ago
 
Patrick
Patrick
@Ramesh Brilliant :-)
 
derobert
derobert
unix.stackexchange.com/questions/132608/… ... another ssh question....
 
Ramesh
Ramesh
ha ha.. Time pass after a heavy lunch. Best way to spend a lazy afternoon though :)
 
ekaj
ekaj
9:33 PM
Let's say you're on a server, and you need to record a whole serial connection's output. Is there a command you can issue before you start the serial connection that will record all of the convo on the computer you're initiating the serial connection from?
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
Anyone knows git here?
I tried cloning github.com/hean01/iscan
but I just see the first commit with git log -v
 
Patrick
Patrick
10:01 PM
@FaheemMitha git branch :-)
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@Patrick tried that, didn't work, but apparently the branches were all there, just hiding.
i guess i should learn how git works some time.
 
Patrick
Patrick
I meant look at what your current branch is
it defaults to iscan-2.29.1-5, not master
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@Patrick Ok.
 
Patrick
Patrick
if you checkout master, you'll be fine. the owner of the repo just set that as the default for some reason
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@Patrick I did git checkout origin/master
is that right?
 
Patrick
Patrick
10:04 PM
that'll put you in detached head mode. which is fine if you don't plan on making changes
if you plan on making changes, you'll want git checkout master instead
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
i don't see why git log -v doesn't show all the commits. seemingly only the ones for that branch by default.
 
Ramesh
Ramesh
@Patrick, can I edit the network configuration file /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 to change the network configuration settings?
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@Patrick the difference being that i am creating a local branch?
 
Patrick
Patrick
git log only shows you the commits from the current commit back. Since that branch doesn't have but one commit, you only see the one
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
and no, i don't plan on making changes. i presume you mean i can make changes but not commit them?
 
Patrick
Patrick
10:05 PM
@Ramesh RHEL box? yes, that's fine
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@Patrick yes, i see. very different from mercurial, which is what i use
 
Ramesh
Ramesh
@Patrick, wow. Then for this question unix.stackexchange.com/questions/132616/…
 
Patrick
Patrick
@FaheemMitha when you git checkout master, if you don't already have a local branch called master, but the remote does have one, it creates the local one based on the remote one
 
Ramesh
Ramesh
during bootup, run the command grep "" /sys/class/net/eth0/carrier to check if cable is plugged and if not don't even bother to restart the service. I plan to use if loop in the beginning of that configuration file. will that work?
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@Patrick I see. If i first run checkout origin/master followed by checkout master, is that harmless?
 
Ramesh
Ramesh
10:08 PM
*don't even bother to start or look for network settings.
 
Patrick
Patrick
@Ramesh That sounds really dirty, but the general idea would work yes
Really this is what NetworkManager is for
 
Ramesh
Ramesh
@Patrick, cool. Just experimenting stuffs :)
 
Patrick
Patrick
@FaheemMitha yes
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
I wonder if I dare post an autotools question here.
Maybe the site will explode.
@Patrick Thanks.
@Patrick what git viewer do you use, if any?
 
Patrick
Patrick
@FaheemMitha you're welcome
none, all command line
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
10:12 PM
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/src/iscan/iscan'
cd . && /bin/bash /usr/local/src/iscan/iscan/missing --run aclocal-1.10 -I m4
configure.ac:273: error: unknown libltdl build type: _LTDL_TYPE
/usr/share/aclocal/ltdl.m4:226: LTDL_INIT is expanded from...
/usr/share/aclocal/ltdl.m4:352: AC_LIB_LTDL is expanded from...
configure.ac:273: the top level
autom4te: /usr/bin/m4 failed with exit status: 1
aclocal-1.10: autom4te failed with exit status: 1
Anyone got any idea what this gibberish means?
 
Patrick
Patrick
sounds like you've got the wrong libtdl version
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@Patrick whatever that means
 
Patrick
Patrick
I rarely mess with libtool and autoconf. guessing you've got a package on your system too old for what it wants
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
I think maybe the build can't cope with debian multiarch.
Though that is usually not an issue.
Dunno.
 
Braiam
Braiam
> error: unknown libltdl build type: _LTDL_TYPE
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
10:20 PM
@Braiam I see that. So?
 
Braiam
Braiam
@FaheemMitha sorry, but really? help.lockergnome.com/linux/…
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@Braiam I tried that. Didn't work.
autoreconf -fiv
that is.
if that thread recommended something else, i missed it
Funny comment in this thread: linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/…
"Talking to a debian developer about proprietary software is like talking to a taliban about anal sex"
Anyone seen a film called Gravity? Apparently made quite a splash.
 
 
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Patrick
Patrick
11:38 PM
@FaheemMitha Not sure if that was a pun, or real question
 

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