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1:11 AM
@Gilles I'm more inclined to think that something borked in the repositories since nothing makes sense...
 
1:24 AM
I'm not sure about this one
I know the basics of dpkg but not the rules about complex stuff like versioned conflicts
 
 
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6:47 AM
just out of curiosity, how many of us are really into the free software movement? (and by really I mean: you are extremely active in doing your best to avoid proprietary software; "just using" free software doesn't count for this particular poll)
obviously we all like it a lot but I'm just curious who is really, really into it for ethical reasons more than functional reasons
 
slm
7:15 AM
@strugee me
 
7:48 AM
@strugee I actively try to avoid proprietary software.
And I don't need to be part of a movement to do so, either. I think it is just bad for all sorts of reasons.
Especially when part of the core OS. Then it is really bad.
Like MS and Apple, obviously.
@Gilles What is the question?
 
8:02 AM
@strugee Why don't you just ask this question in meta?
 
 
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3:22 PM
is this the right room to ask a bash_profile question?
nvm. found the *nix forum. :D
 
Hello, people
can anybody take a look at this Q, please?
http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/109779/script-from-cron-doesnt-create-archive
 
slm
3:53 PM
@MikeS. - please ask all actual technical questions on the main site, not in the chatroom.
 
4:18 PM
@setevoy no. it's incredibly annoying when people just paste questions in the chatroom. there are regulars who check the site and will get to it when they can.
pasting a link in a chatroom makes me want to look at your question less, not more
 
@strugee OK :-)
 
alright. sorry if I sounded too harsh, but you've done it a couple times now
 
I do not often come in chat and do not know the rules
anyway - thanks
 
no problem
 
slm
4:49 PM
@strugee @setevoy - Yes posting random Q's is frowned upon and generally makes ppl not want to look at them. There are exceptions (as always) so if you know one of us personally just from chat and you've written up an A that you want to share w/ us b/c you think that'll be useful to us, those are OK to post in here (to a point), and also with Q's if it's been a couple of days and no one has been able to A and/or help, you can ask in here for help/guidance in making the Q better.
 
@slm perfect, thanks, will keep in mind now :-)
 
 
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7:59 PM
Wow, wonder how many more questions we'll get like unix.stackexchange.com/questions/109694/… ... that's the second one. Mine was first :-P
That's another person suffering from the nVidia signal mask bug.
 
8:10 PM
Anyway, keep an eye out for them. And remember that ignoring a signal (as, e.g., trap can do) is completely different than setting the signal mask.
 
This question is a couple of years old. Is it worth re-asking here?
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Q: How can I add text and images (for example, a signature) to a PDF?

d3vidOn occasion I receive forms to fill in as PDFs intended for printing (these are not true PDF forms, they do not contain fields). I would like to type onto them, and perhaps add a scanned copy of my signature. This way I could just email them back. Is this possible?

That question and this one mention updf. Anyone tried it? It's not in Debian.
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Q: How can I edit a picture into an existing PDF file?

TimI have a scanned PDF file which is an application form, and a picture which is the scanned version of my signature (for example, this one) and can be in any image format such as EPS or PNG. I would like to put the signature picture on the blank space right to "APPLICANT:" on the second page of th...

@derobert Wow, that's some nasty bug.
 
@FaheemMitha is updf the same as mupdf? as in µpdf ?
mupdf is in Debian...
Could be worth asking here. I've used the command-line pdftk for that.
 
@derobert Don't think so, but not 100%
That's why I don't use testing.
 
@FaheemMitha hah, I think a better lesson to learn is the value of hardware vendors that support fully open drivers for their hardware.
Like, say, Intel.
e.g., I just purchased a new machine for a media PC, to connect to a TV. I went with one with Intel's built-in graphics, despite how nice VDPAU is... because, well, it'll #@!(# WORK.
And it will be debugable!
 
8:51 PM
@derobert Even free drivers + open hardware can have bugs. I've used nvidia cards + proprietary drivers for a long time on debian stable and never had any issues. I'd prefer comparable free software + open cards, but that doesn't seem to be an option right now.
I think the noveau drivers have lots of problems, don't they?
Can they do the two screens behaving as 1 trick? I think Nvidia calls it twinview
 
Not sure how well nouveau handles dual display. Only have one monitor at work :-(
 
@derobert Cover text + pictures, or just text? I just need text.
 
I've always run the nvidia drivers on nvidia cards because, yeah, they're normally much better—heck, it was the only option when I first built this machine, as nouveau couldn't handle the card at all.
 
@derobert yes, nouveau not supporting the card is also a problem
 
So I got one with Intel graphics for my new TV PC... Intel supports the open source drivers.
 
8:55 PM
How do the intel cards compare to nvidia? can they do dual screen?
 
Yes
 
i mean the twinview thing
 
They don't use TwinView, as that's a weird nVidia thing. They use the normal xrandr/xinerama stuff in X
So with an Intel card, you can plug in a monitor, and use xrandr to extend your desktop (or mirror it, etc.) to the monitor you just plugged in (if your DE doesn't do it automatically)
 
here is the page for updf. i don't think this the same as mupdf
mupdf is a viewer
@derobert But you can treat your two monitors like one screen, move windows around between them, etc?
 
Yes
 
8:57 PM
@derobert Good. Thanks.
 
(nVidia has recently started releasing documentation, so they've helped out nouveau a little. That's new as of late-September. Intel, OTOH, pays people to work on the Intel open source drivers)
 
@derobert That's quite a difference, it's true.
 
I'm not sure what the current status of ATI/AMD is...
 
9:22 PM
rebuild updf from ubuntu sources, but it crashes. python app.
Ok, now at least it launches
 
9:42 PM
Rather primitive. Mostly unusable. Drat.
 

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