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2:46 AM

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Q: Delete files if contents does not matching pattern

There is a hundreds of .html files in a directory. I should delete files which does not contain word bluecar I thought sed with rm would do that, but I don't know how to combine it.

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4:17 AM

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Q: Fedora : Adding extra fonts in a safe manner

I installed few free fonts from smashingmagazine.com on my Fedora 14 laptop. I didn't like them much so I removed them from /usr/share/fots using rm -f. The consequence was that my Google Chrome browser fonts changed automatically. Since Fedora 15 is round the corner, I don't bother much about ...

linux fedora fonts

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7:05 AM

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Q: Add packages on fedora live USB

I want to create fedora - 14 live CD with additional packages which i want. How to do it ?

linux fedora packaging live-usb livecd

7:39 AM

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Q: Does PGPDesktop supports OpenBSD or e.g. Fedora?

Does PGPDesktop supports OpenBSD or e.g. Fedora? Or I can only encrypt my whole hard drive when I use Windows? Thank you!

linux fedora security openbsd

7:50 AM

@Gilles : If you want to take away your upvote later, assuming you realised the answer was wrong, the system won't let you.

that happened to me yesterday.

8:36 AM

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Q: File system for an SSD drive

I always thought that traditional file systems, are geared and optimized for non-ssd drive, where, for instance, data locality is important, and fragmentation is problematic. Is there a file system recommended today for SSD drives? Am I better off just using ext4?

filesystems ssd

8:46 AM

@FaheemMitha many have complained about that inability

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10:06 AM

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Q: Good OpenWRT alternative?

I own ASUS wl-520gU - 4 LAN, 1 WAN, WiFi, 1 USB, 4mb flash rom, 16mb ram. Broadcom BCM5354 @ 240 It's going to be used as a micro-computer rather than router - currently I'm experimenting with WiFi radio. I found that OpenWRT is hanging my router after ~30-60 minutes of idle. DD-WRT is reported...

embedded openwrt

10:43 AM

Do you think this is the right place to ask about a corrupt partition table? I can boot from my HD into Ubuntu and Win7 but fdisk -l and parted -l are both unable to "seek on /dev/sda"

11:04 AM

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Q: Why can't I pgrep a process?

$ ps aux|grep -i ssh USER 4364 0.0 0.0 9004 1032 ? Ss 12:20 0:00 ssh -v -fND localhost:4000 USERNAME@SERVER-IP-ADDRESS $ pgrep localhost:4000 $ Why isn't it works?

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Q: mailq | egrep 'rejected|refused' -A 5 -B 5 | mail -s 'dd' email@email

How to rewrite this command to email only if there is output for the mailq, grep? mailq | egrep 'rejected|refused' -A 5 -B 5 | mail -s 'dd' email@email

11:49 AM

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Q: In Gnome3, how does one assign keyboard shortcutsfor applications besides the default applications.

In Gnome3, there's a facility to assign keyboard shortcuts for applications like your default browser, default email client, default terminal etc. However is there a way to assign keyboard shortcuts for any general application?

keyboard-shortcuts gnome3

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12:55 PM

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Q: Can't access Internet after install updates. Fedora 14.

I'm posting this on the same computer that booted into Windows, so the hardware is working. In Fedora, the "auto install sercity updates" is checked. I did a restart when the system promopts with out check what is updated. I can connect to my router's webadmin in Fedora. So DHCP works. And /etc...

fedora internet

1:39 PM

@Gilles there's a grammar problem on this one

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A: rolling diffs for storage of highly similar files?

Two backup tools that can store binary diffs are rdiff-backup and duplicity. Both are based on librsync, but above that they behave quite differently: rdiff-backup stores the latest copy and reverse diffs, while duplicity stores traditional incremental diffs, and they offer a different set of per...

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2:53 PM

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Q: Multiple path environment variable setup lines with bash.

I have very long export PATH=A:B:C .... Can I make a multiple lines to have more organized one as follows? export PATH = A: B: C:

bash environment-variables path

3:16 PM

good question

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Q: What installer types should commercial software use to support Linux?

The source code in not open or free, so compilation at installation is not an option. Have seen some companies provide a tar.gz file and it is up to user to uncompress in suitable location. Have seen some companies provide a .tar.gz with an install.sh script to run a basic installer, possibly e...

linux install packaging

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Q: send commands to dbx from vim

Using this information, I'm able to debug code using dbx and display the code from within vim. What would be really cool is if I could send commands (step, next, print, stop in ... etc) to dbx from within vim. I am relatively new to unix so do not know of any way to do this. Does anyone know ho...

3:29 PM

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Q: USB Keyboard does not work with Grub

I am setting up Arcade Puppy http://scottjarvis.com/page105.htm on an old Dell GX50 PC. Instead of using a PS2 style keyboard which I don't have I opted for a low profile generic USB keyboard. The problem is that once installed to the hard disk the GRUB boot menu does not recognize the USB Key...

3:53 PM

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Q: Which RedHat packages for CentOS?

I want to use a RedHat rpm Software Package for CentOS 5.6. But i dont know which version of RedHat works with CentOS 5.6. RedHat 4 = CentOS 4? RedHat 5 = CentOS 5? ...

centos rhel rpm

4:17 PM

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Q: ntfs external HD works read-only on Arch

I only have read-only access to my external hard-drive which is using NTFS filesystem. How do I fix this problem to get full access to my hard drive?

arch-linux ntfs

4:41 PM

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Q: Update yum offline

I've been looking around for a way to update an offline fedora box but haven't found anything. I only have a Windows computer connected to the Internet. I noticed that my yum config is pointed to http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/updates/14/i386. Is there a way I can download a l...

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5:56 PM

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Q: Directory "diff"?

I have two directories which are different versions of the same software package. I'd like to list all the files/directories that have changed between the two then copy those differences to a new directory. I've been trying different scripts with md5sum and diff -Nurq but haven't been able to g...

6:27 PM

@Tshepang Is there? I don't see it. Just use the edit button.

@Gilles check sentence

I would have corrected it if understood what u tried to say

@Tshepang It looks right to me

oh I see, it's missing a comma

lemme fix

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Q: OpenWRT mount/boot ethernet HDD

Hello! I'm thinking about buying cheap router and setting up OpenWRT with apache and ftp on it. My idea is to buy a ethernet enclosure & an hdd and hook it up to OpenWRT to replace flash root filesystem. Will this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817145380 enclosure work...

openwrt usb-drive

I think it was right the way it was

6:34 PM

it needed a pause, hence the comma

or do u want me to take this up with English SE :)

damn, I haven't asked a question in quite a while

@Tshepang The comma is technically ungrammatical, I think. Else you'd need one before “above that” as well, and that's too much. But the sentence was a bit long, I'll split it up.

@Gilles Barring the other improvements, you've made it as unparseable as it was before.

I think it's better to have too many commas than too little.

In its current form, I have to re-read the sentence in order to make sense of it.

Think about how you'd read out that sentence.

You will have a slight pause between that and they.

@Gilles, is my comment accurate?

@Tshepang I don't know, I've never looked at rdiff-backup closely

that comment was based on what u said in that answer

nothing else

I just wanted to confirm I understood what you said.

@Tshepang Oh, I see what you mean. Yes, rdiff-backup lets you easily browse the latest backup, whereas duplicity lets you easily browse the last full backup (less useful). I thought you meant it let you easily browse any stage of the backup.

6:49 PM

full backup?

oh, the earliest backup?

that is, u can browser how the fs looked the first time I did the backup?

@Tshepang Not so easily in fact, a duplicity full backup is not just a tar archive IIRC

oh, sux even more

advantage is that it's encrypted, though I don't know if that's optional

rdiff-backup doesn't have that option AFAIK

@Tshepang It's optional.

ok

I like rdiff-backup due to its simplicity

it's both simple and powerful

although nothing really beats VCS really

7:10 PM

@Gilles and @MichaelMrozek

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Q: Which of these is more correct?

Compare these 3 sentences: Both are based on librsync, but above that they behave quite differently. Both are based on librsync, but above that, they behave quite differently. Both are based on librsync, but, above that, they behave quite differently. I found the first one hard to...

7:51 PM

@Tshepang : Num 2, definitely, and yes, "beyond that" is not standard usage here.

i doubt you'd get better answers than the people in that english usage forum.

i'd probably go with "besides that", or "apart from that". As already suggested.

"Although both are based on librsync, they behave quite differently." is also a good suggestion. and flows better.

@FaheemMitha I dont understand what you mean about "beyond that"

one could also use "aside from that"

@FaheemMitha I prefer this one above all else

@Tshepang : Sorry. I was referring to your original usage of "above that".

@FaheemMitha that was my guess, thanks for clarifying

7:55 PM

and mistyped.

though i think there are better choices than beyond that.

I like apart from that as u suggested

@Tshepang : Also suggested by Steve in the comments

I assume you are not a native English speaker?

am not, why?

@Tshepang : No special reason. Technically, neither is mine.

ok

I think some ppl read English different from me, cuz 2 of them actually made sense of the sentence with a single comma

I found that strange, wondering about what's wrong with my comprehension

8:00 PM

At least people outside India forced me to take stupid English proficiency languages.

@Tshepang : I think most people would prefer the second version.

Native speakers at least. It's all about where the pause occurs.

@FaheemMitha huh?

Anyway, I must congratulate you on trying to improve your language skills. Lots of people don't care.

am lost there

@FaheemMitha yeah, too many ppl don't

@Tshepang : What was unclear?

what's is "English proficiency languages"?

8:02 PM

@FaheemMitha I think you're missing that the text in question was originally mine, not Tshepang's. We disagree about that comma.

@Gilles : Ok. Yes, I was not aware of the context.

I thought he was asking about something he was writing.

@FaheemMitha often when I do something like, I wonder if I should link back to the post that inspired the post

@Tshepang : heh. that should have read "English proficiency exams". :-)

I avoid it so as not take attention away from the real question

@FaheemMitha ok, kool

but why u call 'em stupid?

@Tshepang : Ok. I don't imagine anyone cares.

@Tshepang : The exams? The exams were a waste of my time.

8:05 PM

someone did care once when I did a similar thing before, by linking to the post that inspired a question

Also, Americans seem to be under the illusion they can speak English. Often they can't.

@FaheemMitha ok

@FaheemMitha oh, is that so?

@Tshepang : I think it is up to you. Re referencing the original post.

@FaheemMitha I guess it depends on what u call English

there's American English and British English for example

@FaheemMitha not linking to it loses context (as u've proven) and linking to it can be extraneous

@Tshepang : I was just talking about poor skills. reading/writing/comprehension.

@Tshepang : Maybe so. I guess this is up to your individual judgement.

8:08 PM

@FaheemMitha oh, ok

BTW, what is your native language, if you don't mind me asking?

@FaheemMitha Tswana from South Africa

@Tshepang Ok. Not familar with that.

it's one of the Bantu languages, most famous member being Swahili

@FaheemMitha wouldn't expect it

it's spoken in just 2 countries, South Africa and Botswana

Yes, I see wikipedia has a page on it.

So, how is it in South Africa these days? Nice? And do they do a lot of Linux where you are?

8:11 PM

oh, I didn't know it was spoken in 2 other countries

@FaheemMitha not so much, but government apparently is pushing for it, but they r falling behind their targets I think

SA is pretty kool, but the socio-economic conditions r really bad

gaps between rich and poor is too much

Hmm. So, you are just an individual enthusiast?

not part of a larger community.

health care is also split between public and private

@Tshepang : India is probably worse.

that sux, cuz public healthcare is pretty bad

@FaheemMitha yeah, individual

not a member of any LUG

@Tshepang : Ok. so a few rich people, lots of poor people? That's how India is.

You have good internet connectivity there?

8:14 PM

@FaheemMitha yeah, but at least u guys have decent standard education right?

@FaheemMitha it's getting better steadily

@Tshepang : Not really. What are you referring to specifically?

out decent connections here r 4MBit

The rich do ok, but the governement run schools are really terrible.

or so i'm told.

@FaheemMitha I mean non-tertiary education

@FaheemMitha oh, I guess I got the wrong idea

@Tshepang : Not sure what that means. Like high school in the US?

8:16 PM

primary and secondary schools

do they have LUGS, or people just do their own thing?

first 12 years of school here in SA

@Tshepang : yes, those are mostly pretty bad.

@FaheemMitha there are, but it seems nothing is bustling

for the vast majority of the population.

8:17 PM

I only know of three LUGs

one of them doesn't even go regular meetings

it's mainly some mailing lists

@Tshepang : Ok. India also has a bit of activity, but not a lot.

and an odd release party or two

@FaheemMitha since I haven't enjoyed a LUG, I don't see much of a use

Well, that's too bad.

it seems to me online associations r the way to go

maybe I'm just shy

interestingly we r having local elections tomorrow

I wonder why they split them from National elections

what a waste of money!

@Tshepang : I dunno. I've never been part of a LUG either. On the other hand, I know a few people IRL who use Linux. It is not unusual in universities.

8:20 PM

I'm referring to municipal stuff

@Tshepang : Ok.

I nearly forgot it's a holiday tomorrow due to those elections BTW

thanks God, no work

Hmm, the SE sites are good resources. I've never used the english usage one. I probably should.

@FaheemMitha it's magnificent

@Tshepang : You don't enjoy your job? :-)

8:22 PM

I shining example of what SE can be

@FaheemMitha I love it

but I love chilling at home even more :)

@Tshepang Ok. :-)

watching movies; reading; programming

@Tshepang : heh.

@Tshepang : yes, they seem very helpful. and we can all do with language improvement.

I thought of a couple of questions to ask there, but haven't got around to it.

@FaheemMitha I've used it at least once before when there was an argument around some erroneous grammar usage by the SE team

@Tshepang: Do you use TeX?

8:25 PM

@FaheemMitha nah

I saw u r a little active there

@Tshepang : Ok.

@Tshepang : I've asked the odd question. I use it. I don't really know anything about it.

And it is a fairly specialist thing.

@FaheemMitha the kind of answers u get there r illuminating

But I was just going to say it was a good resource, and a friendly community.

@FaheemMitha it's another world, this TeX thing

@Tshepang : Was that a question? :-)

8:27 PM

I once wanted to sit down and learn it, and like many things, I got distracted

@FaheemMitha it's a comment regarding English SE

@Tshepang : Oh, right. Sorry. :-)

@FaheemMitha yeah, I expected that the question of mine was a dupe, and would be closed or something, but instead it got 2 votes

@Tshepang : Was that the question you just posted on?

yes

check, it has another answer, that opposes the others: english.stackexchange.com/questions/25783/…

@Tshepang : hmm. i really don't think commas are an important part of english anyway.

8:32 PM

why? I find them excessively important

and i've rarely seen usage like 3.

@Tshepang : Excessively? :-)

@FaheemMitha according to me, it's the most correct one, and also, more formal

@Tshepang Number 3?

yes

@Tshepang Ok.

and which version was Gilles going with?

8:34 PM

1st

I edited it to be 2, but he edited it back :(

@Tshepang : Ok.

@Tshepang : lol.

:)

i don't think people care about commas that much. I'm sure Gilles doesn't.

Actually he does, that's why he removed it.

BTW that question is currently the hottest on the site.

@Tshepang : Well, maybe.

8:39 PM

check my network profile, my 2nd-highest vore in SE comes from that site

stackexchange.com/users/9b298589-4c93-4bd6-9a42-5218b4aed039

@Tshepang : yes, I see.

I was actually surprised that no one had asked that question there before me.

@Tshepang : It's a good question.

thanks

Has anyone here offered a higher Bounty than this unix.stackexchange.com/q/12947/688?

9:06 PM

@MichaelMrozek is just 70 points away from reaching the all-important 10k

9:20 PM

@Tshepang I get maybe 10 rep a day; it's slow-going :)

@MichaelMrozek You should post more instead of wasting your time in chat and meta

You need to get 20k before you lose that ♦

@MichaelMrozek I ran out of votes; I was going to look at your posts to get you there.

I used all 40 votes :(

@Gilles I still don't have 20k anywhere; it's very depressing

It'll probably be meta first

oh, there's a new badge I see

unix.stackexchange.com/badges/75/vox-populi

it sux that one doesn't get notified about discussions (comments) happening on the Answers even if one is the Asker

nice comment here

user unknown, berlin.de

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9:39 PM

SO is really weird. I got to the bottom of the heap on a shell question, and accepted for saying what I really thought the asker didn't want to hear

@Gilles that was a real good answer

I like the reference to the Chinese :)

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