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Tim

6:12 PM

Hey there!

quassy

7:26 PM

Hi

waldyrious

8:23 PM

Hi @Tim, here I am :)

Tim

hello :)

waldyrious

so... I get your point in a conceptual level

Tim

I guess it's a matter of opinion, but I've always tried to use the code block of standalone code

I guess for 1 liners that are long, those scrollbars are ugly and annoying (which is why I split it off into the 3 commands when i edited :P)

waldyrious

but in practice, when the line is too long and would show a scrollbar, I feel its more user-friendly to the the whole line immediately visible

haha yes but if you think about users of the line

it's way more convenient to copy-paste a single command

Tim

yes fair point.

I wish there was a way to remove the gap between the lines but keep it wrapped...

waldyrious

8:25 PM

maybe we can amend the meta post with an exception

I'm pretty sure it's possible with css

also that was something I was wondering: who, if anyone, is taking care of the site's css?

aren't we going to implement a custom style? :D

Tim

What do you mean by custom style?

Like different to the beta style?

waldyrious

for the stackexchange site, like the reddit was customized as well

ah I so in beta we can't change it?

Tim

It will be changed after (officially) 90 days. However, realistically it could be years - and if the site isn't popular enough then maybe never.

Okay, i've added a clause at the end.

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Q: Please can people format code properly

Recently I've seen a lot of code being formatted as inline style. This is not how it should be done. All code should be formatted with one of two styles. If it is just 1 line, with other text around it, use the ` ` formatting, like this: Hello. This is code and continued sentence. If it is on...

But as I've said there, I'd still err on the code block side.

waldyrious

Sure, that should be the default except if the line is too long

Tim

hmm i have a suggestion

what if you keep the first line split

and then combine the second and third?

paste.ubuntu.com/11801192

waldyrious

8:33 PM

that still forces users to copy/paste more than once...

Tim

so it doesn't get too wide, and then the codeblock looks okay, and it's easier for the user.

waldyrious

easier in what sense? to understand, maybe, but is that worth the extra hassle?

I mean, if the line was reeeally long, sure, that'd make sense

but in this case I think it's a disservice to force users to run multiple commands when one would do

just because it looks better or is easier to read

Tim

hmm i guess

I suppose paste.ubuntu.com/11801199 is even worse

waldyrious

(the purpose of the command is primarily to be executed, only secondarily to be read)

I feel that confuses things unnecessarily. adds extra complexity and questions

Tim

yes true. although that argument would allow the code block style :P

nah it's fine

waldyrious

8:35 PM

:)

Tim

leave it as inline.

waldyrious

maybe we could agree on a limit

Tim

I'm picky from Ask Ubuntu where new users format massive command output with just ``

waldyrious

like, if a single line spans more than 3 lines when wrapped, it should be formatted as a code block

Tim

yeah 3 lines would look bad

or 2 if there's just 1 word on the second line?

My post is from Ask Ubuntu:

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Q: Please can people format code properly

Recently I've seen a lot of code being formatted as quote. This is not how it should be done. All code should be formatted with one of two styles. If it is just 1 line, with other text around it, use the ` ` formatting, like this: Hello. This is code and continued sentence. If it is one line,...

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waldyrious

8:37 PM

I get what you're saying but that'd make the rule too complex IMO

Tim

because I was fed up with people being silly and stupid.

yeah okay, 3 lines into codeblock :)

not saying you're silly or stupid btw :) Calling new users who don't read the docs silly :P

waldyrious

I never read it like that :)

just one suggestion

don't put the exception all the way at the bottom

I'd add it right next to the "one line, use code block" text

Tim

yeah see the update

waldyrious

just read it, haha

nice. But how about not leaving it up to the reader? ;)

clear guidelines are easier to follow

I mean, just state that it should have a maximum of 3 lines

and instead of language like "it's been pointed out" and "I still feel", it would be better to just name the concrete advantages and cases when that is allowed (i.e. when scrollbars appear)

Tim

I've edited a little

I'd rather not say they have to use it because you've still not quite persuaded me round :P

but you do have a good point that i'd not catered for before.

waldyrious

8:44 PM

I think it's fine now :D

do you think we should delete the comments in the answers prior to this discussion, to remove pollution?