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6:20 AM
@StackExchange why no onebox?
xkcd.com/1557
huh
 
 
4 hours later…
10:09 AM
God is it ever quiet here
 
shhh i'm hunting wabbits
 
10:29 AM
 
@FreeRadical ah no, I meant @Martijn's joke
Though I did have to have a look at explain xkcd today :)
 
@Martijn is quoting Elmer Fudd to explain why it is so quiet here.
 
It's wabbit season
hmmmmmm wabbit
 
Or he may be quoting someone else suffering from rhotacism, e.g. Barry Kripke.
 
10:38 AM
@FreeRadical Has that joke ever been made in TBBT?
 
AFAIK, no - I'm a big fan of the series but I haven't seen all the episodes.
 
does anyone of you know how/if I can search for questions that are on hold?
 
@Martijn closed:yes in the search box.
 
@ProgramFOX : ever watchful.
 
thanks
 
 
6 hours later…
4:47 PM
Have I mentioned to anyone here that I'll be on holidays starting the day after tomorrow for two weeks?
I'll try to check back here regularly, but I'm not sure if I'll always have internet
Hi @HDE226868
 
@overactor Oh, hi.
 
If you're here for bots, I'm not sure any of them will actually come out today
I could whip out mine if anyone insist, but I doubt that'll happen : )
How are you?
 
I just wanted to see if anyone was around.
I'm good, thanks. How about you?
 
not bad
a bit sad about the lack of activity today
 
"I could whip out mine if anyone insist" PHRASING
 
4:56 PM
That might have been intended
but if anyone asks, it most definitely wasn't intended
 
 
1 hour later…
6:26 PM
Hero
or Herro
Who's around?
 
\o Ziz
 
Sorry, @overactor I'm kinda competing you on which tag to make a synonym of
 
@Zizouz212 competition is healthy
 
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A: Tag merge request: derived-works, derivatives, derivative-works

Zizouz212I agree, let's make the tags synonyms. However, I say let's make the tags synonyms of derivatives as it is a more concise tag. That way, something that is a derivative but not a derivative work will not be automatically retagged to derivative-work. Tags -> derivatives

Well, there
 
 
2 hours later…
8:32 PM
Interesting data query on Open Source participation: data.stackexchange.com/opensource/query/341448/…
 
8:43 PM
meh, I'm not sure if that's such a useful metric
 
How so?
 
I don't really think that "an expert" coincides with "somebody who posted an answer with a positive score that week"
 
Maybe not the wording, but I think it's a good metric on participation
 
it may be a reasonable metric of activity
 
Exactly, a metric of conscious, committed activity
 
8:52 PM
I do wonder why no moderators have been appointed yet by the way
 
Yaar, it bugs me. If they've contacted their choices for moderators, then I won't be a mod, that's for sure. :( But whatever, it's not like a do or die kind of thing :)
@Martijn look right above :)
@kdopen How is embedded systems going? Noticed you went into beta, and of course who is one of the best experts on the site... :)
 
9:27 PM
@Zizouz212 Very few questions, and having trouble with their scope. Seem to want to reject anyting which could be answered elsewhere, which means they will have too small a user base. This is thei second time in beta
 
Really, let me go have a look :)
I'm quite curious to see what this stuff is all about
 
Unfortunately, a lot of it is from hobbyists rather than pros
 
Oh really?
How long has the "embedded" idea been around?
 
You mean for the site? I think they failed their first Beta earlier in the year
 
Outside of SE
 
9:30 PM
If you mean actual embedded systems stuff .. Oh probably 50 or 60 years
 
So then there should be pros around... (It hopefully won't be gamification)
 
It almost certainly started in military apps
 
military?
Sounds... Cool
 
Looks like early 60's .. NASA and the MinuteMan missiles
There are plenty of pros around .. just not on the boards
A lot of our 'high tech' came out of the military
Always has. Nothing spurs progress in science and tech like a hot war.
 
Well... I wish you guys luck
I know nothing about embedded systems (only think I know of "embedded" is like embedding a link into a webpage)
... So basically nothing :/
 
9:36 PM
You have a microwave over? Dishwasher? Washing machine? All embedded
 
Wats?
 
In fact, your keyboard is an embedded system. So are the disk drives
 
o_O
(Tell me more...)
 
Anything which talks USB, for example, has to have a controller inside it to actually implement the protocols and take actions. The keyboard needs to debounce the mechanical switches and translate them to keycodes, Light the LED's for capslock etc.
 
Wowz...
 
9:39 PM
Your disk drive has a CPU. Today the PC tells it to format itself. In the past, we used to do that from the main computer.
Those are embedded systems.
 
main computer?
 
The elevator you ride in has one to handle the buttons
Main CPU (i.e. your pentium) actually wrote the ones and zeroes to the disk. Now it just points to a buffer and sends a command. The CPU in the disk drive uses DMA to get the data and handles the writing
 
What's dma?
 
Direct Memory Access
Another 'computer' (the one in the drive) reaches into your PC's memory and sucks the data out of it
 
...
speechless...
 
9:42 PM
it just means the device can access the memory bus
 
We found an expert!
 
If your have a standard PC, it probably contains 10-15 different CPUs. The term 'computer' is usually reserved for a general purpose platform where the user can load new software and run it. It has a user interface which usually contains a screen and keyboard at a minimum
 
Aren't we good at being expert trackers and finders?
 
I wouldn't call myself an expert
 
@ratchetfreak You know way more than me, you clearly sounds like an expert...
 
9:44 PM
@ratchetfreak It may be more intimate than jst being able to jump on the external Data/Address buses. If, for example, the DMA buffers are in on-board cache
 
on-board on the device or the memory controller?
 
@kdopen and with a sufficient screen size, or whatever the criteria are, because for some reason many people don't call smartphones computers
 
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Smart Phones are a grey area, because they are still pretty much dedicated to telephony.
 
Darn it there's a lot of smart people around...
 
9:47 PM
The best way to think of 'computer' is a general purpose computing platform
 
@kdopen not really
 
for the lay person
 
web browsing, videos, games...
people who just want a phone usually don't shell out $300 for a smartphone
 
Yes, but would you do payroll on it?
 
I don't do payroll on my home PC, is it not a computer?
 
9:48 PM
The point is that it is created with a fairly specific set of limited uses in mind. A 'computer' is just a general purpose platform. The user does what they want with it
 
I know nothing... And it's 11:45 here in Norway, so I'm going to see how many cousins I can wake up with my snoring... >:D
 
@zizWet sponge will be more effective
 
@kdopen such as exchanging text and video messages, reading news, email, calendar, web browsing, installing third-party applications, taking pictures, reading maps, and oh, yes, phoning
not talking about geeky stuff here, just some of the apps that Google itself provides
 
Uh huh. As I said, grey area
And, having worked on smart phones as well, I can tell you that (from the software and hardware point of view) telephony is THE primary function. NOTHING is allowed to get in its way
 
@kdopen antenna&transmitter take up the majority of the motherboard?
 
9:57 PM
short of a dead battery - and that's the real reason there is so much power management code in your phone (dimming, turning off the screen when you are holding it to your face, etc). To minimise the chance of a low battery interfereing with telephony
Battery is not on the board. And the antenna is either ceramic, or actually printed in a small area. Higher frequencies == smaller antenna.
Book just about printed antennae: google.com/…
Depending on how it's done ... a lot of it will be inside the main SoC, the rest will be connectors
 
@kdopen that's partly because of regulations: since it's a phone, you have to be able to make a call to emergency numbers
 
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Q: Can we rename dual-licensing to multi-licensing?

Zizouz212It may not be common, but I'm raising this post to hear the community thoughts: From the dual-licensing excerpt (emphasis mine): Works can be released under two (or more) licenses, which may or may not be compatible, giving recipients the choice of which terms they will abide by I'm askin...

 
10:35 PM
@Gilles But an incoming call trumps everything except an in-progress outgoing call
 

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