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Nicholas V.

1:46 PM

Well hello, there

user46190

2:27 PM

@NicholasV. you're here?

Nicholas V.

3:28 PM

@edmastermind29 yep I'm here

was in Cleveland for the Browns/Bears game this wkend

user46190

@NicholasV. whew...afraid you got really busy...or came back from a 26-3 halftime deficit...

user46190

@NicholasV. sweet. how did that go?

Nicholas V.

horrible 8 hour drive home yesterday whilst hungover -_-

other than that, it was fun

@edmastermind29 YES!!!!!1

go packers :D

user46190

@NicholasV. Just saying, before we get on Tony Romo...Tom Brady has had two game ending INTs this season...

user46190

The "Tom Brady should be MVP because he has crap to work with" argument is junk. That D and running game shows up if the passing game isn't there.

user46190

3:31 PM

@NicholasV. you seriously can't make that up....2 INTs with under 3 mins to go....could you imagine if Tim Tebow was in the game?

user46190

and how much guaranteed $$$ will Matt Flynn get for this game?

Nicholas V.

@edmastermind29 LOL

For this second half*

user46190

@NicholasV. nice work there

Nicholas V.

and yeah, people often shove Brady's mistake under the rug

user46190

@NicholasV. but if it were Tony Romo...nvm.

Nicholas V.

3:32 PM

@edmastermind29 yeah, definitely

or Andy Dalton... Joe Flacco

that caliber of player get shredded for INTs

user46190

I believe Brady and Peyton are the top 2 qbs of this generation...but Brady not getting any flak for anything is ridiculous.

user46190

@NicholasV. haha. Even Peyton.

Nicholas V.

Yeah. I didn't even know it happened lol. That's how hidden from the media it was.

@edmastermind29 yeah Peyton generally gets hit hard by the media. I think it's because he just doesn't throw picks often.

user46190

@NicholasV. Peyton should win MVP. Drew Brees, Jamaal Charles, Philip Rivers (if SD makes playoffs), and even Nick Foles should have consideration before Brady.

Nicholas V.

@edmastermind29 agreed with that. Add in Calvin Johnson and you've got your candidates I'd say

and as much as I'd like to say Josh Gordon - statistically he's up there - that would never happen.

user46190

3:35 PM

@NicholasV. nah. its the # of championships. his MVP season of 2009, he threw 16 picks. if anything, and it has been this way his entire career, he's had to carry teams on his back (terrible D, etc.). Brady has always had Belichick, prob the best coach of this generation. Peyton has had Mora, Dungy, Caldwell, Fox...

user46190

@NicholasV. if they make playoffs

Nicholas V.

@edmastermind29 it's kind of funny how improved the Colt's D has been since his departure.

user46190

@NicholasV. seriously

user46190

@NicholasV. if they had a 2012 MIN season...perhaps.

Nicholas V.

@edmastermind29 I think the whole "cheating" thing that happened to Belichick hurt him hard, but I could see some say he's the best coach ever.

user46190

3:39 PM

@NicholasV. i said after SB 42 that they would not win another super bowl with TB as QB (lots of B's). I also hate how Welker gets flak for this: assets.sbnation.com/assets/935806/welker.gif

Nicholas V.

@edmastermind29 Yeah. There's not many receivers that can even reposition themselves like that for the catch.

At least he tried to make the throw look catchable.

user46190

@NicholasV. he did everything he could to catch that...and who gets the blame? exactly. that was a bad pass. easily could have threw it on the inside, as welker was facing...no reason for a (overthrown) back shoulder grab.

user46190

5:04 PM

Again, how is this not flagged? nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000299870/article/…

Stack Exchange

5:22 PM

Q: What is the frequency of overs to introduce a "new" ball?

In ODI and Test they introduce a new ball in between the course of the match,which favours the seamers. What is frequency of overs in test matches for a new ball to be introduced,because it is a longer format game compared to ODI ?