...but why tcc?

@ГригорийПерельман it might throw syntax errors on other compilers?

Nope

Well, GCC throws a warning about leaving off the return type of main

@ГригорийПерельман maybe less server load then?

I think that was meant as a rhetorical question, I don't think there's really any reason.

Well, my Fedora install DVD just burned, wish me luck!

@ГригорийПерельман I see you're back from Peru

Yes

@ГригорийПерельман install arch

No

why not

I use arch

I'm installing Fedora because my webserver will run Fedora, and I want to get used to it.

kunaki.com/sales.asp?PID=PX009XQC1L

@ГригорийПерельман Why not use Ubuntu Server/

I considered it, Fedora seems better.

@ГригорийПерельман How? I might switch if it really is

Rolekit and Cockpit seem nice. I don't actually know though, it's just my impression.

Also, I know TIO also runs on a Fedora DO droplet, so if it borks maybe I can root through the source and copy what Dennis did.

Dammit my disk isn't detected by GRUB.

noice

Nvm motherboard boot manager sees it

Nvm can't load kernel

K E K

just use a flash drive

My flash drive is currently lent out as an Ubuntu live USB

I'll try to reburn

...

It's a write-once disk

gg

Windows let's me format it though

Wait no

nvm

ಠ_ಠ

The Fedora 'Games' Lab is dissapointing to the extreme: labs.fedoraproject.org/en/games

@ГригорийПерельман Wesnoth is amazing though

Not my cup of tea

I'm getting the design suite lab

what do you prefer then? CS:GO?

Dirty Bomb, but not the point. Nothing in the Games lab is particularly notable at all, I'd expect it to come with Steam

not FOSS

There aren't really good FOSS games. I don't think it was worth the effort of creating the Lab, I highly doubt it caused anyone to try Fedora who wouldn't have otherwise.

Hey now TuxKart is the bomb

The FedoraMediaWriter is the official way to install Fedora, and it's managed by a single guy as a personal project hosted on GitHub.

Not that it's bad, just surprising.

Cool new Humble Bundle (Python): humblebundle.com/books/python-book-bundle

@HyperNeutrino lawl rip

not sure you need to define dot product, but it can't hurt I guess

the matrix vector thing could use some formatting

maybe mathjax imgs?

or just codeblocks

agree with this

but all in all, looks pretty good

@HyperNeutrino blank blank blank blank blank blank blank

because I'm lazy and dno't post stuff

Yep.

@ATaco how'd you get that?

Click your Reputation.

(On the main site)

you mean the rep tab? doesn't give me that option

just a breakdown per day

@HyperNeutrino ah nice

@HyperNeutrino no repro tho

D: how do you all get reps so fast

I just don't see any graph o-o

@Downgoat lots of posts

I'm not even joking

must be a userscript

I have the userscript >_>

I have a bajillion though

oh it's some winterbash one ok found it

more like winterzsh amirite

mine looks so sporadic

@Alt-F4 no

zsh causes global warming /s

@HyperNeutrino then downgoats is logarithmic

@Riker wintertcsh

@HyperNeutrino yes

I'm really bad at posting

I'm so much more active in chat then I am on ppcg

mostly because I know how to take codegolf in moderation. Hahaha I swear I have self-control

@Riker :( why does my rep increase in O(log n)

yes

and I have a habit of disappearing into a random other site, be it reddit or another SE one, and leaving ppcg temporarily

I post quite often I think

I used to have 10k karma on reddit <shrug>

@Downgoat not as often as them

552:36

@HyperNeutrino I like making questions more than answers

@HyperNeutrino 58:11 or about 5

but I'm not very good as either

just realised @HyperNeutrino is a carcinogen

yes

:(

@HyperNeutrino I'm sorry I didn't until recently learn the skeletal structure of atoms

@HyperNeutrino No, I didn't have bounty gains at all

@HyperNeutrino your profile pic

is benzene...

@HyperNeutrino yes apart from the xd that is what benzene does to a person

@DestructibleLemon that's what benzene + nitrous oxide does

CMC: heron's formula. Given a, b, c, Calculate sqrt[s * (s - a) * (s - b) * (s - c)] where s = 1/2 * (a + b + c)

I'm just A Taco

CMC: what is (in your opinion) your most surprising high-rep answer?

...mine: codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/110592/53748

@ATaco btw tha'ts up now for me also

@ConorO'Brien JavaScript (ES7), 46 bytes: (a,b,c)=>((s=(a+b+c)/2)*(s-a)*(s-b)*(s-c))**.5

This one

@HyperNeutrino yeah, exactly, it's weird what can get rep!

are we sharing highest voted answers?

Yesterday there was issues in that the domain service may not have been visible everywhere, and that the default behaviour was to time out.

I still think this wins for some of the stupidest highest voted answers

@Riker no, high votes that surprised you

ah

well that did also so

@JonathanAllan I'm actually really unhappy that this is my highest-scoring answer. The esolang's nothing spectacular, the question is rather simple... I'd much rather I have my highest upvoted answer display some fantastic golf or esolang, or heck, almost anything other than this...

blew me out of the water for sure

Ah pretty pictures get rep :)

When that Keyboard started raising past 10, past 20, I was very confused.

This one for me (my answer with the most upvotes)

ehh that's true

pretty pictures : hard work :: jelly : java

(usually)

Anyone here written a language that they never used/released?

@ATaco I have 15 unreleased languages.

@ASCII-only and my Jelly one of the same byte count got 1 :)

I have a few brainfuck derivitives.

I wrote a language Called "BrainOrgy", which was the inspiriation behind Threead

A bineutrino is an excited bound state of two neutrinos that occurs once per year per galaxy and lasts about 10^-36 seconds. Normally they aren't useful, but a type-IV civilization is able to create a swarm of bineutrino collectors that can stabilize one temporarily until hopefully a third neutrino reacts with the existing bineutrino. The resulting trineutrino lasts much longer and is very likely to catalyze further collisions, creating a hyperneutrino, a particle the size of a small star.

It was just Brainfuck running on infinitely many threads.

I lost the source; sorry

(disclaimer: actually, I made it all up on the spot)

yeah, I thought as much :p

@JanDvorak post it to reddit

Usually I stay away from that place.

probably for the best

Now to see if I can get Unity on it.

> Unity

I like Unity

DDDDDDDDDD:

Language design challenge! You have one week (starting from the time I post this message) to design an esolang. The esolang must use only the numeric characters 0123456789. Other characters should be ignored. Reply to this message with an link to an implementation and specification of your language. After a week, I'll select a question at random. The shortest answer on the question in a submitted language wins a 150 bounty. The winner will be selected 1 month after this challenge closes.

@ConorO'Brien Shortest? converts Jelly to numeric codepage

>_> don't be that one dude

you'll just get outgolfed by dennis anyhow

@ConorO'Brien But how would it be possible to make it shorter than that

@ConorO'Brien Addendum: The language must be original content. No converting a golfing language to a number >_>

3

@ConorO'Brien Then Jelly derivative

@ConorO'Brien can I submit 7?

1.

It does not care about what characters are around it, or it's position.

unary, right

like, I've already written a language with only numerical commands, which has some golfing-related features (although it's not really competitive on most questions)

Yay! 7!

tmk yes.

@HyperNeutrino without cheating, 2; in particular, there's a set of two Underload snippets that can be used to write any Underload program

@ais523 hmm... I'd rather encourage the creation of new esolangs. I'll see how many languages are submitted by the end of a week.

alternatively, Iota is a good demonstration of that sort of language

you could always make 9...

@HyperNeutrino the idea is that you write a language which compiles each of the two characters in its character set to the appropriate Underload snippet

@ConorO'Brien How is this different from normal esolang design

All that happens is you have 00-99 as codepage

it's really verbose, though; basically one command puts a bunch of junk on the stack, and the other one sifts through it to find the command you're looking for

I DEFINITELY wasn't going to do that, of course not...

all the 2-character non-context-aware esolangs that I'm aware of use that sort of technique

Pfft, Why would I try that?

incidentally, if you want to restrict yourself to commands that have a single, sane function, the typical number for Turing-completeness seems to be 4, although Unlambda manages it with three (`sk)

and even then, to act in an intuitive way Unlambda needs four commands `ski, but i turns out to be equivalent to ``skk

RProgN could be done in 7, but it wasn't very useful.

Underload's ():^ turning out to be Turing-complete is actually really elegant

maybe I should make an esolang that is basically Ruby in number form

@ATaco did you make the chat syntax highlighting userscript?

Technically?

I made the userscript, Google made the Syntax Highlighting.

@ConorO'Brien Good thing this upcoming week isn't busy for me at all! Cries onto my keyboard

And by that, I mean I don't really have any free time this next week

RIP.

Just finished installing Fedora

I forgot how much I dislike Gnome 3

by the pings I received we're going to get a bunch of pretty bad esolangs :/

well yeah because you want it to be as golfy as possible

@ConorO'Brien Yeah..

interesting is good. translating to python is not :P

Whoops, I hit enter accidentally

But I've got work everyday, and then music everyday except for Wednesday

@ГригорийПерельман ...whaaaaat

How does one dislike Gnome 3

Install Dash to Dock, set it to panel mode on left side.

There you go, Unity

I'm in the process of doing that now.

@DJMcMayhem if you really want to design a language but are unable, do feel free to make one when you have time. I'd be happy to make an exception

Have we done a problem for checking if a number is square?

if I can't enter 7, would a 7 derivative work?

@Qwerp-Derp in general I'm of the opinion that anything that's a builtin in Jelly makes for a fairly poor challenge, but the builtin is a whole two bytes so it's possible that Jelly will be beatable here

@ais523 Huh, I'm surprised that Jelly has a builtin for that :P - did you memorise all of the builtins?

@ConorO'Brien github.com/dkudriavtsev/rnum

@Qwerp-Derp not all of them but probably more than half

@ConorO'Brien Hmmm.. ok, I'll let you know. I might just design one afterwards for the heck of it without being able to enter it

after a while it gets tedious to look them up

@Qwerp-Derp it's one of the first built-ins Dennis made for Jelly IIRC

@DJMcMayhem good luck on your schedule!

@ГригорийПерельман Actually don't use Dash to Dock. Use Dash to Panel. It's more like Unity.

@Alt-F4 I thought that said "mum" at first

I've got a game idea

@ConorO'Brien yeah my mother is a great programming language

@ConorO'Brien Thanks! Also, quick question: what's to stop someone from implementing a generic stack based golfing language with 100 commands, each one referenced with two bytes?

(somehow I'm reminded of KTANE speedruns, but memorising Jelly is much less absurd by comparison)