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12:56 AM
What is a good introductory book on logic and set theory? I have a copy of Shoenfield's mathematical logic but I find it a bit too harsh for a complete beginner
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6:53 AM
I see that you have asked this in the main chat room too:
in Mathematics, 12 hours ago, by Alessandro
Do you have any suggestion for an introductory book to logic and set theory? I have a copy of Shoenfield's mathematical logic but it's a bit harsh...
Has somebody give you some advice there?
My guess would be that you could find something on the main site. But you will have to be patient when searching, since probably you will find also many questions about the same topic which ask for a book on more advanced level.
You can through in some words to describe level, like introductory or basic.
Maybe it is easier to use tags, since such questions will probably be tagged or .
For example, you could try to look through all questions tagged set-theory+reference-request and logic+reference-request.
Without too much effort I was able to find these two questions which are about books at introductory level:
Q: Logic and set theory textbook for high school

TaladrisDo you have any advice for a textbook or a book for high schools students which completely adresses basics of logic (proposition, implication, and, or, quantifiers) and set theory (intersection, inclusion,...)? The book is for freshmen in a high school for science and maths gifted students so it...

Q: Book suggestion on set theory/logic

AlexanderCan anyone recommend good books/tutorials on set theory/logic with simple explanations for a person with no math background(nothing beyonds arithmetic and basic algebra back in school) ?

If you spend more time searching, you will probably find some other questions.
@Alessandro If you do not find anything suitable, you can always try to post a question on the main. Make sure to give some background and explain what you are looking for the book and why answers at other posts are not satisfactory for you.
Judging from this post it seems that several questions about book recommendations have been closed recently. So it is better to show that you put some effort into your question, if you do not want to get it closed.
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9:46 AM
@MartinSleziak I didn't receive any answer in the main chatroom, so I asked here
I have read a lot of these book recommendations questions, but I'm still confused, there are some recurring big names (Enderton, Kleene and so on) and a lot of less known books being suggested
You've mentioned Shoenfield. I agree, that it is not very good book for somebody who reads something about this for hte first time.
I don't think that beginner needs to know about model theory, Peano axioms and similar stuff.
Do you think Bloch's Proofs and Fundamentals (or some other book from Undergraduate Texts in Mathematics) would be suitable for your needs?
You can check it out on Google Books. Springer also have at least Table of Contents and Preface freely available on their website (and also some sample pages).
10:02 AM
I've read the table of contents and skimmed through the sample pages available on springer, it seems to be very well written, but I'm already familiar with a lot of the material covered in the book
So if you want something on higher level than that, many introductory textbooks in set theory might be suitable. (Devlin, Enderton, ...)
Basically I can't to give you much better advice than to decide for yourself. You know best what it is you're looking for and how advanced book you need.
But if you are familiar with everything from Bloch's book, I'd say you have sufficient background from set theory to be studying mathematics.
Enderton seems very good, I'll look more into it and see if it fits my needs! (I want to study some set theory on my own, because I find it extremely interesting)
thanks for your suggestions by the way :)
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11:20 AM
in Mathematics, 5 mins ago, by Jasper Loy
@Alessandro You don't like Shoenfield? Take a look at Mendelson then. But it might be equally hard. But I think these two are the best.
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3:09 PM
After some discussion with Jasper Loy in the main room and a good deal of googling I think that both Enderton and Mendelson are great books, but considering their prices I'll try to stick with Shoenfield at least until I can afford one of those 2
@Alessandro In my profile you can see my website and there you can find my email. If you don't mind, contact me via e-mail. (I did not find your email in your profile, so I cannot be the first one to write.)
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4:40 PM
@MartinSleziak I sent you an email
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9:00 PM
@Alessandro I should perhaps mention that a MSE user yunone wrote down some solutions while studying Enderton's Set Theory.
You can find some versions of his solutions online.
He changed his profile since than, but he used to have there this link.
You can also check various versions of his profile page in Internet Archive to see whether you find something interesting there: web.archive.org/web/%2A/http://math.stackexchange.com/users/…
He was also working on solutions from some other books, but I don't think the other ones were related to set theory.
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10:48 PM
@Martin Thanks, that'll be useful :)

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