@gerrit Well nothing. But the UK hasn't (really) had much wild woodland since the 17th Century. UK is very crowded little island and traditionally (for the last 200-300 years at least) the uplands have been farmed by upland farmers (mainly sheep grazing). At the moment the National parks actively maintain this traditional(ish) environment

@gerrit I always like to use Yosemite as a good example here. This is what a lot of people think of as the "american wild". But well it's pretty man made. The wildness was actively built. All the native tribes we're forcibly removed and the park was made "wild".

Traditionally, again, this landscape was managed by the 2 or 3 native american tribes that had lived there for (I think about) 1000 years. A lot of the species we're encourgaed (or discouraged) depending on their usefulness to these tribes. The colonialists just didn't understand this and thought it was totally untamed.

@Aravona No, that's the path up to Llyn Idwal

Roughly here:

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@Liam oh nice! Not one I've done. I've been up watkins, pyg, miner and llanberis

Taking a break from snowdon this year though. Going to do Scafell

@Aravona Not my favourite peak if I'm honest. a bit bland and flat. Doesn't help that I've never seen the view TBF. It seems to always be raining in the lakes

even more os than snowdonia

@Liam haha well we've never done it before. Want to tick it off the list :)

And I do love the lakes.

@Aravona I seem to be the only person who's not that keen. I much prefer Wales or Scotland. I find the lakes very busy and not rugged enough

Welsh mountain

Lakes mountain

Accept no substitute :)

Scottish mountain

Or better yet

@Liam yeah true the welsh and scots mountains are more rugged but it's a different kind of beauty :)

Have a nice weekend y'all. Bank holiday here so I'll see you's on Tues