The Base Camp

J. Musser

1:19 AM

methinks y'alls are morning people. No one here at night, when I'm here. :(

J. Musser

1:59 AM

I'm a night person.

WedaPashi

6:05 AM

@J.Musser: Hi there!

@liam: Morning!

Morning All!

@Everything: Thanks, and its great to see the way questions are answered and answers are appreciated. With some active users like you and @liam and @Rory and @Ara and BenediktBauer, we are growing slow but steady :-)

EverythingRightPlace

6:25 AM

Hi @Weda

7

Q: Walking through a Thigh-high snow

I have far less experience in trekking where there is snow. I believe walking through snow and through Ice are two different techniques. Is there some sort of safe technique to walk on such snow with nearly 30 degree slope and winds? I wonder if I would be able to take the same route that I open ...

When is your trip to Saser Kangri?

@BenCrowell seems to read really a lot about the mountains, also scientific books. Asked him for the source because this really would be a shock for me (see his comment in that topic).

Ah well he did post an answer and says it there

Aravona

Morning guys

EverythingRightPlace

Morning @Aravona

And good bye, have to work now ;(

Nice day to all of you!

WedaPashi

@Everything: Umm, the trek was planned for this September, but the plan got busted thanks to an office work on-site

I strongly admire @BenCrowell for his answers, definitely a wise guy!

@Everything: Have a good mate!

@Ara: Morning :) May day started with a punctured tyre!

Aravona

7:51 AM

@Weda that sucks

I was actually still in bed when you said that lol...

Rory Alsop

@J.Musser I'm a start of day and end of day kind of person, with brief check ins through the day - but I'm in Scotland, so may be in a very different timezone to you

:-)

Morning all

@WedaPashi as @Ara said - that sucks. Happened to me two weeks ago - on way from work to a gig, with all the kit in the car :-(

WedaPashi

8:06 AM

@Rory: It sucks when you are really upto something.

@Rory: Though, it was neither my car (and, I don't owe one yet), nor my bike. It was my Bicycle!

Rory Alsop

@WedaPashi quick 2 minute repair then :-)

WedaPashi

@Rory: Yeah it was :-)

Rory Alsop

Still not the best start to any day, though

WedaPashi

Yeah, that true when you are really in a hurry (as you woke up late), and some Jap clients waiting for you in a conference room :D Bad way to start!

Aravona

Dentist next week... Yay

WedaPashi

8:15 AM

@Ara: Tooth Ferry? :P

Aravona

@Weda do you mean Fairy? A ferry is a boat...

But lol no... Probably the evil tooth drilling goblin.

WedaPashi

@Ara: Oh, mis-spelled. I obviously meant Fairy. was a bit too late to edit it.

Okay, off to roof with the sensor, again. See ya later!

Aravona

8:33 AM

@Weda that misspelling made my morning :) have fun with the sensor!

Rory Alsop

@WedaPashi the tooth ferry - takes teeth across the river Sensodyne to tooth heaven

Aravona

@RoryAlsop lol!!

Oh... That gave me your full name as a suggestion... On the mobile browser. That's new

Rory Alsop

@Aravona ooh - that's a good update then

Aravona

@RoryAlsop did you have a good weekend btw? I've been rather awol

Rory Alsop

@Aravona rather relaxing thanks. Very little done - kids Halloween parties etc

How about you?

WedaPashi

8:42 AM

@Ara: Thanks to rain :) No roof-running!

@Rory: LOL @ the tooth ferry - takes teeth across the river Sensodyne to tooth heaven

Rory Alsop

This weekend is the busier one - two gigs, 700 miles driving etc

WedaPashi

@Rory: Sounds exciting! :-)

Aravona

@RoryAlsop wow sounds like two great weekends. We have fireworks in the garden this weekend

WedaPashi

I've been using "Load Ferry" term quite regularly for quite some time now (withing the group that discuss our excursion plans and schedules for mountaineering in Nepal early next year).. may be thats y the fuss about Ferry inplace of Fairy :D

Aravona

@WedaPashi nice that you don't have to go out on the roof

WedaPashi

8:48 AM

@Ara: :-)

Its actually so boring up there.

And, when I am up there with the sensor, I feel more like a Meteorologist than a Firmware guy :D

Aravona

9:03 AM

@WedaPashi haha that's kinda cool though

WedaPashi

@Ara: Hows the day going?

Aravona

@WedaPashi good. Battling with JSON now

But it's working pretty well so I'm happy.

WedaPashi

@Ara: Glad to hear that!

Aravona

@WedaPashi yours?

WedaPashi

@Ara: Got better since I am not going to the roof. :D But, the sweet girl on the other side of the desk (who keeps on passing me chocolates) is non leave today :(

Aravona

9:19 AM

@WedaPashi awww

Aravona

9:30 AM

@WedaPashi lol you shouldn't have bothered putting a bounty on my question...

WedaPashi

@Ara: LOL, not an issue. Still worth the investment. Why can't I award the bounty to the asker :D

Aravona

@WedaPashi @RoryAlsop @Liam was it a subjective question? I know the guy I met up with said to use gear for almost every tree...

WedaPashi

@Ara: TBH, I have climbed trees so many times for various reasons, but have never used a tree climbing equipment, neither have seen anyone in India using something like that. But, that said, there are so many things which are a bit different in India and your place. So, I do feel like its worth knowing how these are used, so this sounds like a valid question here (Thats a personal opinion)

Rory Alsop

9:51 AM

@WedaPashi is this the one who knows about my band?

Aravona

@WedaPashi yeah maybe, to me I just wanted like ' oh over 10m its a good idea to use gear' not a well falling over can kill you too answer O.o

Liam

@Aravona What's a subjective question?

I was going to reply to your tree climbing question but I haven't had time yet! :)

Aravona

@Liam the tree climbing question, Vorac decided it was subjective and just said get over climbing a tree a bit at a time... Nothing to do with equipment

Liam

@Aravona Do you want to know what equipment to use? I'm not sure that;s in the question as it stands?

Aravona

@Liam no not really, though that is of interest to me, but Vorac basically didnt say use any equipment at all, just climb, or that's how it read

Liam

10:04 AM

@Aravona yeah, that's not a great answer

Aravona

Though I've only read through his answer once whilst my head is full of JSON

Liam

It's boils down to, "you cross the road don't you?"

@Aravona who's Json?

;)

@Aravona Donovan? He's a dreamboat....

Aravona

@Liam haha ;) and yeah it does...

A long winded, you cross the road... Well yeah but my mother used to send me to the play park woth a crash helmet on too!!

I was a clumsy child....

Rory Alsop

@Aravona we were allowed to go play up the top of the field...where there was a quarry....with old mine carts, rails, twisted metal spikes etc... and the assumption was that we would be home for dinner, and if we hurt ourselves it was our own fault :-)

Aravona

10:19 AM

@RoryAlsop oh that's how it was when I was like 6+ but when I was around 3-4 and my sister took me to the playground I'd always bump my head!

My mum got fed up and just sent me off with my bike helment on

No more bumps then lol

Rory Alsop

@Aravona ahh - remember when playgrounds were all concrete and metal. None of this rubber matting they have now :-)

Aravona

@RoryAlsop yeah I temember having a metal climbing frame at school but they ripped it down because of health and safety!

Liam

@Aravona LOLZ

@RoryAlsop There used to be this slide in Prestatyn, they pulled it down in the 90's. This thing was enormous, like 15m easy. It had metal bars around the top so you didn't fall out, it was aweseom

Rory Alsop

@Aravona I need to see if I can find a photo of our primary school playground. It had a concrete steam train (that everyone bashed their head on), a concrete hill with concrete bumps on it that used to be a deathtrap in winter

@Liam brilliant

Aravona

@Liam @RoryAlsop living before Health and Safety.

Liam

10:36 AM

@Aravona when I were young...etc

Aravona

11:01 AM

@Liam past tense? Still am. Plan to be young until I feel old ;)

Liam

room topic changed to The Base Camp: Living before health and safety [height] [religion] [speelin-nazzi] [whatswrong-with-icescrews] [zoorbing]

Aravona

@Liam lol love our topics here...

@RoryAlsop @Liam fireworks this weekend?

Rory Alsop

11:23 AM

@Aravona I will have fireworks on stage, yes :-)

We are headlining halloween gig in Aberdeen, and part of a halloween celebration on Sat in Orkney

Liam

11:34 AM

@Aravona I have not given it much thought actually?

It's not bonfire night till weds?

Aravona

@RoryAlsop oh that sounds awesome

@Liam yeah weds, we are doing fireworks in the garden this weekend and going to some the weekend after lol

WedaPashi

@Rory: No, That girl is prettier :D (In reference to is this the one who knows about my band? )

Aravona

@WedaPashi a girl can be as pretty as anything but also dumb as a rock :P

Dynadin

@Aravona speaking from experience?

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Liam

@Aravona That's how I like my girls... ;)

WedaPashi

11:46 AM

@Dyna: LOL mate!

Aravona

@Dynadin I'm not dumb as a rock, your mistake because I'm not pretty eithermuahaha

@Liam lol!

Don't you have a girlfriend though @Liam??

WedaPashi

@Ara: She is pretty! And she is definitely not a programmer, so there are less chances that she is a geek!

Aravona

@WedaPashi lol not all geeks are programmers though! Ok I am a programmer but I'm also a gamer and a trekkie...

Dynadin

@Aravona you are both pretty and clever, speed of a brick though.

Aravona

@RoryAlsop completely forgot... Saw your psn account on minecraft the other night and now have brought it because we couldn't resist lol...

WedaPashi

11:49 AM

@Ara: Gamer! Thats a bit unusual for a girl, (at least in India)

Dynadin

@WedaPashi the trouble is she is too good. An annoyingly good shot.

WedaPashi

@DYnadin: Oh! R you a gamer to0?

The best way to avoid conflict is, play in the same team! :P

Aravona

@WedaPashi yeah I capped halo 4 pretty easy on the multiplayer and I'm currently maxing my second subclass on Destiny... I usually finish top 3 of a cruicble match against other people of I'm sober / not in need of a wee. Can't concentrate on a shooter game if I need a wee

Dynadin

@WedaPashi That I am. My strategy is better than @Aravona but in open combat I have no chance.

soph-e

@J.Musser I stopped checking at night since the chat is usually deserted by then :P

WedaPashi

11:53 AM

And, @soph is here! Has she missed the class, again?

soph-e

@weda good morning ;)

Aravona

@soph-e morning!

soph-e

@weda nope, I have class in about 8 hours :P

@ara Good morning ara :)

scratch that, my class starts in 10 hours

ugh

WedaPashi

@soph: okay :-) Thats like 4 movies!

soph-e

I need to make sure i'll be awake when class start....& ends

hahaha

i'll just get coffee before class i guess

Rory Alsop

11:54 AM

@Aravona hahaha - Admittedly I only play it on PC. It's the kids who play it on PS Vita etc

WedaPashi

@soph: To stay up? Does it work??

soph-e

@weda no time for movies, I need to get some study done :o

WedaPashi

@Rory: Yeah, I bet your kids would too fast for you to beat them on PS!

Rory Alsop

@WedaPashi Nah - they love the creative aspects, whereas I can't be bothered building amazing houses - I just like taunting the mobs

WedaPashi

I am more of a Warcraft gaming guy. Not so good, not bad either!

Liam

11:56 AM

@Aravona Yeah, she's annoyingly intelligent

WedaPashi

@liam: LOL :D

@soph: Exams?

Aravona

@RoryAlsop I was surprised with how good it was on the ps4, expected worse

Rory Alsop

@Aravona I still prefer keyboard/mouse to any console input for that type of game (I only like consoles for driving or guitar/music games)

Aravona

@Liam annoyingly so? Oh dear.

soph-e

@weda the exams never seem to stop :(

Aravona

11:59 AM

@RoryAlsop usually I'd say the same, touchpad on the ps4 makes it a bit easier.

soph-e

I don't understand why i'm awake right now, usually I just can't manage to wake up early, and now I have no reason to be early and I'm just not tired. So weird!

WedaPashi

@soph: Oh, thats bad.

@soph: You've got in The Base Camp mood!

soph-e

oh man what I wouldn't give to be at a base camp right now

they have the best sunrises

any mountain, it would be awesome to be outside right now :P

WedaPashi

@soph: :D I meant this The Base Camp (chatroom)

soph-e

yeah I know

but you made me think about mountains

:P

Aravona

12:02 PM

@soph-e yeah would be good to get out today. Office.

WedaPashi

@soph: :P Glad that I made you think about mountains.

soph-e

@ara yup, indoor gets real stuffy sometimes

and by sometimes I mean a lot of the times

maybe I should stop trying to become a programmer and find something that'll get me outside and pay a lot. Is there a thing that meets those two criteria? :P

WedaPashi

A mountain guide!

soph-e

I'm not sure rangers have that good a salary, sadly :/ Although when you're a ranger, why would you need a lot of money ;)

@weda mountain guides do okay, but I don't think they can work until their late 50s. Also, it's so dangerous! :P

@weda when you're a mountain guide, you end up knowing a lot of people who die on the mountains

WedaPashi

@soph: Umm, thats one way of looking at it.

A mountain guide usually save more guys than he heard about dead!

soph-e

12:06 PM

That's true!

WedaPashi

I am rather a bit against settling myself up as a mountaineer who climbs for money!

soph-e

@weda I'm not really thinking about it in terms of getting rich, but if I get a career it's got to be able to sustain me through my old age, just in case I get there, y'know?

WedaPashi

@soph: :-)

soph-e

maybe I am thinking about it all wrong :P That's part of the fun, figuring it all out, right? ;)

WedaPashi

Yeah it is!

And, the base camp is the best place to talk about that!

soph-e

12:11 PM

hahahaha is it? ;)

WedaPashi

:)

You should have been here y'day.. when we talked about religion! :D

soph-e

yeah I scroll through from time to time, s'pretty cool stuff :)

It's always fun to see some civilized discussion about religion, seems all too rare these days

WedaPashi

Yeah

soph-e

I recently made a friend who happens to be muslim, and it's fun when he shares some bits about his religion. I don't usually get to hear about it a lot!

WedaPashi

Reading about religions and religious aspects puts me into boredom!

As long as Humanity is concerned, I am least bothered about religion :-)

Being born is a specific religion, race is not in you control, right? :D

soph-e

12:20 PM

hahaha I think religion has a pretty big part of our society, whether we like it or not

so discussing it in small doses is okay

WedaPashi

Sad (Thats a personal opinion), but true!

soph-e

maybe I'm biased because I'm in a culture that's not very religious at all, so I spend most of my time not hearing about religion ;)

when I do hear about it, I end up finding it interesting :P

It is unfortunate that there are a lot of conflicts that seem to stem from religious beliefs though :(

Aravona

@soph-e very true, and yet for the most part they have the same fundamentals, be good, treat others as you wish to be treated etc... It's human perspectives that seem to cause problems.

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Rory Alsop

@Aravona ^^ this

soph-e

@ara very good point!

WedaPashi

12:30 PM

@Rory: ^ is Ex-OR!

Rory Alsop

@WedaPashi So does that make ^^ the same as ROT-26? :-)

(I've not actually seen that notation for XOR)

WedaPashi

@Rory: Operator! | for Or, & for AND and ^ Ex-OR, ~ for NOT

ROT13 is what I've heard of, whats ROT-26?

Rotate by 26 places?

WedaPashi

12:44 PM

Guys, check this out: stackoverflow.com/a/769443

Pure Epic!

soph-e

@weda I read this a while ago, pretty funny :P

" If there are two different ways of doing something, PSD will do both, in
// different places. It will then make up three more ways no sane human would
// think of, and do those too."

WedaPashi

hahaha

This one is also worth a read: stackoverflow.com/questions/652788/…

Specially the comments over the accepted answer

soph-e

@weda yup, read those too ;)

"#define retrun return" hehe

WedaPashi

haha

soph-e

In Soviet Russia, program compiles YOU!

WedaPashi

12:52 PM

@soph: Thats was epic!

@soph: Weekend plans?

soph-e

@weda studying chemistry!

Also I have class friday from 6pm to 9pm, and saturday from 9am to 4pm

:(

WedaPashi

@soph: You've sunday!

soph-e

Sunday is going to be for studying!

Unless I go visit family, still not sure :/

WedaPashi

Okay, sounds good

soph-e

I need to get rid of my cough so that I can go to the rock climbing gym again!

WedaPashi

12:58 PM

I'll be fixing up my bicycle on Saturday, will travel home on Sat night and study on Sunday.

@soph: So you've joined the gym? Thats great!

Rory Alsop

@WedaPashi yup - meaning no change :-)

soph-e

I did one month of rock climbing where I start building calluses and getting strength into my hands and arms, and then I stopped for a month because I got a cold that's not going away :(

@weda all my calluses are gone now, it makes me sad!

WedaPashi

@Rory: :-) You are insidious!

soph-e

but it's okay, I'll just have to work to get them back ;)

Rory Alsop

@soph-e :-)

WedaPashi

1:01 PM

@soph: Okay.

soph-e

It's half the fun of rock climbing, building strength & whatnot

WedaPashi

Okay, I am off for a while, roof-running!

soph-e

the other half is figuring out the problems/routes

@weda have fun! ;)

WedaPashi

@soph: Good! :-)

Aravona

1:12 PM

Anyone got some good references for IIS that isn't iis.net/learn?

Aravona

1:38 PM

@RoryAlsop really good info in that answer thank you!

Rory Alsop

@Aravona no problem :-) I knew the HSE would have something on it, so just had a wee browse around

It did surprise me there was no 'anything above 2 metres' type statement

Aravona

@RoryAlsop yeah that surprises me also

I upvoted your answer as the info is still very good

Rory Alsop

@Aravona I guess they are worried about someone falling from 1.9m and hurting themselves, and suing the council....

@Aravona cheers

Aravona

@RoryAlsop always a pleasure, and yeah I guess so. To me it's actually a really intereating subject regardless of whether there is a definitive yes or no answer.

Though in that regard much of the outdoors is common sense answers lol

soph-e

2:10 PM

@ara you could also try bouldering crash bads, although I'm not sure that'd help you at all if you fall into branches :P

Rory Alsop

@soph-e lol

Liam

@soph-e Bit expensive, a boulderting pad's like £100

Rory Alsop

@Liam or make your own. I'm tempted to use one of these:

Liam

@RoryAlsop ha ha

Rory Alsop

With the added benefit that if you hit it really hard, you may get a wonderful snow explosion

(joke)

Liam

2:16 PM

@RoryAlsop Not a very even landing surface...?

Rory Alsop

@Liam Oh, they are - it's just a huge bean bag. They are flat until you arrange them

Liam

@RoryAlsop The money I could of saved?!

Rory Alsop

@Liam we got one of their huge ones. Awesome for two adults or three kids to sprawl on

and they do the same in an outdoors version

Aravona

@RoryAlsop those are awesome!!

Liam

I got's one of these

bananafingers.co.uk/metolius-boss-hog-crash-pad-p-549.html

Banana fingers messed up one of my orders and gave me 15% off so I ordered one

Aravona

2:22 PM

@Liam there are a few geocaching groups that get you 10-20% off cotswold outdoors

Liam

@Aravona Yeah, I get 15% from my bouldering gym card. or 10% from my BMC membership.

Rory Alsop

And Snowboarding UK membership gets you between 15 and 25% off various outdoors'y sites

Liam

@RoryAlsop I get 10% off snow and ice, problem is they're about 20% more expensive than anywhere else....

Aravona

I had a limited 15% with British canoeing

Liam

You seen these

sportpursuit.com

Really, really cheap stuff

Flashsales if your familiar with them

Mt girlfriend just bought these:

sportpursuit.com/catalog/product/view/id/526975

Bargain!

If anyone joins, please use my link

sportpursuit.com/join/sonic1981_c6a0ac

Gives me £5 :)

Dynadin

2:32 PM

I think this would suit me: thebikerooms.com/giordana-fusion-bib-shorts.html don'tcha think @Aravona

Rory Alsop

@Liam I may do that. I can't even access the page from work. Which is putting me off slightly.

Liam

@RoryAlsop I bought some snowboard gogles. They're 100% legit. I heard about them on a Radio 4 program where they had the MD talking about his business model on some business program.

They buy stock from people who order too much and sell it mega discounted. They also sell stuff that isn't common in the UK but is in places like France, etc.

You often have to wait a bit for delivery, like 4-6 weeks but thats why it's so cheap

Aravona

@Dynadin ew

@Liam reselling other peoples stock isn't that uncommon.

Dynadin

@Aravona and there was me thinking you would appreciate it.

Rory Alsop

@Dynadin hmmmmm - possibly not attractive on any man

including the model on that page

Liam

2:43 PM

@Dynadin How did they get a photo of me?!

@RoryAlsop Lol!

:P

@Liam spy cam drone

@liam: LOL :D

@Aravona Bloody spay cam drones...

WedaPashi

2:56 PM

Okay, just booked for summit of these two in May 2015. IMF permissions sorted out just today!

1. Hanuman Tibba 6002m

2. Deo Tibba 6001m

:)

Yippiee!

Aravona

@WedaPashi great!

WedaPashi

And talks for the 3. Indrasan (6.2K m) are on!

Liam

@WedaPashi Cool

WedaPashi

:)

Dynadin

3:23 PM

I be off now. Ta ta.

Aravona

@Dynadin see you in an hour

user116848

Oh, hi all.

user116848

Oh

Aravona

@Arrowfar afternoon

Liam

@Arrowfar haya

try again

Aravona

3:34 PM

@WedaPashi you're doing some massive climbs and I just want to get Scarfell Pike and Ben Nevis under my belt lol...

Liam

@Arrowfar hiya

user116848

@Aravona Afternoon. Hello!

user116848

@Liam Hello! :)

user116848

Soph-e's English is pretty good.

user116848

I am reading the room's transcript

user116848

3:42 PM

:D

user116848

I have to usually think for some seconds before writing my thoughts here though,

user116848

In English I mean.

Aravona

@Arrowfar I'd assumed @soph-e 's first language was English, pretty sure it is though she can correct me if I am wrong.

user116848

@Aravona I don't know. Maybe :D

user116848

Your first language is English though, right? @Aravona

user116848

3:46 PM

Yeah, you sound like a native.

Aravona

@Arrowfar yes indeed, British English.

user116848

nods

Aravona

Not to be confused with American/International English but often is lol...

About 90% the same nowadays but never ask an Englishman to remove his pants, you'll be surprised.

user116848

@Aravona Okay :D

user116848

Yeah, I know most folks here speak British English. I hear you guys use words like 'pub', 'mobile', etc. In other SE chat rooms where there are lot of American folks I don't hear such words often :)

Aravona

3:49 PM

Lol, my view on languages is that I usually can't speak someone elses so can't expect them to just speak mine perfectly... And if I give theirs ago II'd have to accept help lol

@Arrowfar probably because @Liam @RoryAlsop and I all live in the UK though pub and mum etc are common in Austrailia and New Zealand too.

user116848

I see.

user116848

Yeah, they speak UK type English too there in Australia.

Aravona

Lol our reach went far

user116848

@Aravona Yep! Rule the word, eh? :D

user116848

New Zealand is a beautiful place.

J. Musser

3:54 PM

Anyone here want free money?

Too bad, cause I don't give people money. :)

user116848

No, we don't free money. Because free money is always a scam LOL

user116848

Hi Musser

user116848

"If only money grew in trees".

user116848

J. Musser

@Arrowfar If you pay enough money, you can get anything for free. :P

user116848

4:00 PM

Dammit, I hate 20 seconds edit time. Or whatever 'seconds' that is.

J. Musser

@Arrowfar Hiya!

user116848

@J.Musser haha Funny!

J. Musser

@Arrowfar It's fun, though.

user116848

@J.Musser Yeah, only for rich folks! :)

user116848

So, I have heard some people think (which is very wrong, I know) that money plants bring money.

user116848

4:04 PM

Ridiculous, right!

user116848

Money plant

Epipremnum aureum - a tropical vining plant found in Northern Australia through Malaysia and Indochina into China, Japan, India and Pakistan. Lunaria annua - a herbaceous biennial, grown for its attractive spring flowering and dried silver seed pod middles Crassula ovata - a small plant with fleshy leaves, also known as a jade plant or a friendship tree Pilea peperomioides - a small plant with very round, dark green leaves, also known as Chinese Money Plant, Lefse Plant, or Missionary Plant and is from the south of China...

J. Musser

@Arrowfar It's not ridiculous. I know someone who made several dollars a year, multiplying and selling money plants out front.

user116848

@J.Musser Yeah, selling them etc. Sure.

user116848

I was talking about the myth of just keeping the plant at home and doing nothing with it.

J. Musser

@Arrowfar Yeah, I know, I was bein' an idiot on purpose. ;)

user116848

4:07 PM

haha

J. Musser

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soph-e

11:50 PM

@Aravona My first language is french. Spent the last 3 years in english though, so now I have a hard time switching back to french when I talk to friends!

@Arrowfar that picture reminded me of i.imgur.com/kgthn7H.jpg

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