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1:54 AM
@ArtemKaznatcheev I only have 250 followers on twitter. Even if a bunch paid attention it's not much
 
Have you voted for a welcome message @Ben? ;-)
 
yes, ages ago
I was going to complain earlier that I couldn't bounty the welcome message post, but I guess that'll do
 
Good, just making sure. the top answer is only +4 so
I want as many votes as possible before I approach the team again to push them on this
 
2:11 AM
OK, now made more clear:
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Q: What welcome message should we have?

Jeromy AnglimMany users are keen to change the welcome message from the current version This is a collaboratively edited question and answer site for practitioners and research professionals of the cognitive sciences. In that previous meta discussion, reasons were outlined for the change. However, t...

 
 
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4:47 AM
@JoshGitlin Aarthi is looking for you in the TL
(in case you read this first)
 
 
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5:53 AM
@JoshGitlin If we have a small pool of active users, that would be very nice. It could help mitigate problems like when some super active user gets busy like in your case.
We have thoughts but we don't know how to implement them into workable ideas.
 
 
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12:08 PM
@jonsca Thanks, I did see this first actually
I was AFK and/or sleeping anyway
@jokerdino Oh absolutely, I agree! Nice to see you in chat, the more users the better
 
@JoshGitlin :-)
 
12:46 PM
Perhaps CogSci can help in a theoretical background during this contest. :) blog.stackoverflow.com/2012/08/…
 
haha nice try.
 
@StevenJeuris Hmmm possibly!
 
1:08 PM
Nice work guys, we're up to +6 on the welcome message
And as @jonsca said, Aarthi is looking for me
(I don't know if that's good news or if I am in trouble :-)
 
@StevenJeuris If you can drum up some machine learning experts, sure!! :)
 
1:40 PM
(I say that non-sarcastically, I realize how that might have come out -- our two strongest contenders would probably be @Artem and Zergylord, but I don't know if either have any experience in the applied realm)
It would be a good way to bolster our languishing tag, though. Maybe we could do a chat event on it in conjunction with Linguistics or something
and challenge Stats to a friendly competition or something
 
1:52 PM
Oh, right, chat events
I fail at organizing those, lol
 
Just an idea hehe
 
I really do think we should start one!
But after I ragequit my business, haha
JOKING
I wouldn't do that
 
I thought you were giving it all up to be an ornithologist anyway?
 
(Even though some of my customers make me feel like it sometimes ;-)
@jonsca I'd love to, lol
Just this damned sense of duty to the product that keeps me going :-)
 
GitlinWidgets?
 
1:54 PM
lmao!
 
@BenBrocka It is not like we need millions of users, 1 extra active user will be a big boost for us.
 
I'm trying to return to my "1.5 user" status that I held in going from 1K to 2K rep
 
@jonsca sitepalette.com is the product
 
@ArtemKaznatcheev traffic is a big one, one extra active user is A) extremely hard to predict/create and B) not very visible. Unless we can get one user to ask tons of extremely high quality questions it's better to just try and get eyes on the site for more organic growth
 
@JoshGitlin Nice. I think I saw an older version of that site (linked off of your profile) at some point. If I ever need a website, I'll know where to go.
 
1:59 PM
haha cool. Yeah our team just redid the site recently
 
@jonsca I've thought about this challenge. Some of my research right now is on the (very very-)theoretical end of ML, so I should try my hand at some applied stuff... but I am not sure if I will have time before the October deadline. Maybe if there was a whole CogSci team or something, then I would participate.
 
We could try it
 
I know a Meta.SO user who's interested...
 
I've played around with the SVM/bag of words a bit, but I'm not sophisticated in the NLP realm
 
His only complaint was he's not a machine learning expert
 
2:01 PM
@BenBrocka it's better than nothing good sir. I have like -6 followers and I still try to advertise ;) although I should be a little more aggressive on G+ where more people read my posts.
 
@JoshGitlin Who is the user in question?
 
I wish I could find some way to tie it into my youtube stuff...2k subscribers, though only about 200 watch any given video
 
@jonsca Can't name him without permission, but I can say he's one of this crowd
@BenBrocka Just posta video of you answering Cog Sci questions and closing all the things :-)
 
@JoshGitlin Well, that narrow it right down!!
 
hahaha
OK, I have permission. It's Tim Stone
Wow, that was quick
I didn't even use the Tim Stone signal!
@Artem and @jonsca, meet @Tim
 
2:08 PM
I know @TimStone, we go way back. Hehe, well, in that "pass randomly on MSO from time to time sense"
 
Hahah :)
 
Cheers Tim
 
I am fascinated by machine learning and would love to work on such a project... but have no relevant experience...
 
I've played around with ML a bit in the past, nothing serious, though. I took Andrew Ng's course last year, if that counts for anything :D
 
I am supposed to be a theoretical computer scientists and all
but you know what happens when you let us near a keyboard
we just break everything
 
2:12 PM
hahaha
 
@ArtemKaznatcheev Sure, you can deal with some hyper-dimensional non-congruent semi-grammar, but you can't concatenate two strings in Python, can ya?
 
btw, there is a simple way to encourage people to share posts more
we can have a competition for who can get more announcer badges: cogsci.stackexchange.com/badges/59/announcer
@jonsca in theory practice and theory are the same, but in practice they often are not.
 
Exactly
 
Booster's a fickle gal who has eluded my advances many times
I got one, on the now defunct Healthcare IT, but that was only after they dropped the time-limit requirement
 
2:17 PM
@jonsca so has announcer, it seems :P
 
I have a couple
I'm going to get banned from Reddit if I post any more CogSci links in /r/neuro
 
I've only posted a couple. No announcer badges except for the first one I think
 
Whoah, I haven't gotten booster on cstheory or cs.SE... sad of me
 
Having a blog has its advantages in that regard. Jeromy just snaps his fingers and gets all of his minions to help him earn Publicist
 
@jonsca oh yeah, my bad... I often get confused by the jonsca/Chuck confusion
 
2:20 PM
Me too hehe
 
@jonsca share on other boards, too and do some cross-linking into chat so we can up-vote :P
 
OK guys sorry I have to deal with some work-stuff here for a bit... but I am interested in talking about forming a team for the ML challenge!
So feel free to discuss away and I'll read when I return
 
Speaking of voting, ???
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Q: The Stone of David

Andrea CapiluppiThe problem New users of StackOverflow are typically told to listen and learn: that means essentially if you are new, engage with the rules of the community (a perpetual moving "status-quo") and learn and accept them. This could also mean that new voices, or new ideas, are soon discouraged when ...

@JoshGitlin Okay, later!
@ArtemKaznatcheev True, that would help, as I know my Reddit stuff has gotten the requisite downvotes
 
@jonsca I just made an account, and the only place I have gotten love was at neurophil
 
I'm not sure how someone with no rep anywhere managed to come up with such a detailed, integrated and thoroughly terrible idea
You can't just walk in and think up something that terrible, it takes time and knowledge
@ArtemKaznatcheev clearly we should have a reddit voting ring
 
2:28 PM
@BenBrocka well, it would help get eyeballs on the questions. I can't seem to figure out how to search by site of link-target, otherwise I would upvote every cogsci.SE submission
so how does the science sub-reddit work...?
I think this question could generate interest on reddit:
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Q: What makes people easily subscribe to pseudoscientific theories?

Forbidden OverseerThere are many theories/disciplines that have been categorized as Pseudoscience in the Scientific community. The list includes many things that are regularly even quoted in media like Graphology, Astrology, Psychoanalysis, Personality Types etc. Questions: Why do people get attracted to such...

but by the rules I am reading it seems to be offtopic for r/science
 
@ArtemKaznatcheev Some of the subreddits have tighter rules than others... It might work under one of the psychology subreddits
@BenBrocka I think she drew it from a Mad Libs book or something ;)
 
@jonsca except it has a slightly wider draw than psychology, hmmm
 
________(noun) is an ________ (activity) on ___________ (website)
@ArtemKaznatcheev It's hard because there are places it might fit, but they're smaller subreddits
philosophyofscience, etc
 
I tried my hand at r/BehavioralEconomics with a different question.
 
2:45 PM
DevFRus? ;)
 
@jonsca yeah, going to use that pseudonym for now, doesn't seem that using names is fashionable on reddit
might switch to something like Eh?Kay if they allow question marks
 
Nope, it's pseudonym heaven
Go for "Arti" hehe
 
@jonsca nah, I'm not a big fan of that shortening of my name
 
I know, it was a joke
 
the proper Russian short version of my name is Tiyoma
 
2:48 PM
Go figure
Sounds like a tumor that grows on a tie
 
those crazy Russians, they're always up to something
 
If I had your name, I'd be KartemAwayChief online
 
okay, decision time r/Psych or r/PhilOfSci ?
 
Psych has a bigger audience, I think
 
but less fitting on topic
 
2:54 PM
or both, but I'm not sure if there is a formal cross-posting procedure there (I've seen people put X-POST ON /r/whatever in the title
 
@jonsca yeah I have no idea if that's a feature of the site or what
or whether it's frowned upon/etc
 
@jonsca okay, I will try PhilSci and then cross-post after
wow, I feel like a cogsci billboard... I should consider posting some non-cogsci links
 
Feel that Reddit freedom hehe.
 
I find it funny how it auto-upvotes your own links
 
It's the lazy way of preventing you from manually doing it...start everyone at 1 instead of 0
 
3:04 PM
Yes, I was thrown by that the first time as well
 
Also, this question needs more love:
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Q: What are current neuronal explanations and models of 'consciousness'?

VielleI would like to understand more about consciousness from a neuroscientific perspective. I have a limited understanding of it in the philosophical/psychological sense through lectures. Although it is hard to define, here is a definition from Christof Koch's website I will provide: "At this po...

 
@ArtemKaznatcheev In what sense? I think it's got two great answers. I'm biased of course
 
@jonsca needs more upvotes, it has the same number as bsbs's seat of consciousness question
except this one is well written
 
@ArtemKaznatcheev Yes, I agree with both of those sentiments. I thought you meant it needed more answers hehe
 
@jonsca I think I might give it one more answer
which will be the opposite of all my previous answers on consciousness
 
3:23 PM
Reductionist? ;)
@ArtemKaznatcheev Out of pure curiosity, is Vielle a man or a woman? It means "old woman" in French, doesn't it?
 
 
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4:50 PM
Just an update; we're waiting on a response from the team re: new welcome message/name
 
@JoshGitlin Nice to hear!
 
5:08 PM
@jonsca it is also a type of musical instrument, and you don't have to be the world's greatest detective to track using say twitter :P
 
 
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6:29 PM
This question is starting to generate some very marginal answers:
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Q: Why do humans have sex in private?

Piotr MigdalHuman couples usually have sex in private, hidden not only from predators, but also - other humans. It is unlike behavior of most species, including our relatives: bonobos, chimpanzees and gorillas. Is private sex most a biological or cultural behavior? What is the advantage (if any) of such beh...

It would be great if @StevenJeuris or @JoshGitlin could keep an eye on it.
 
@ArtemKaznatcheev I will do so
I think a lot of these need citation notices, but I will wait a bit before adding them
 
 
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7:40 PM
@JoshGitlin I wouldn't wait around too long, this question is attracting views
We want to look like a good scientific community to the first time visitors
Also, you site-wide notice is working wonders @JoshGitlin we have +7 votes on the post and +8 on the top suggestion. Hopefully the overlords pay attention.
 
@ArtemKaznatcheev One citation notice added
@ArtemKaznatcheev haha thanks. They said they're discussing it
I will have to use system messages more often!
 
definitely, what is the reason not to use them?!
 
Anyone in favor of a system message: This site is for research based questions and aanswers only! K THX BAI ? ;-)
@ArtemKaznatcheev You're just happy because the top suggestion is yours! ;-)
Next you'll be begging me to feature all your answers in the system message :-)
 
8:03 PM
@ArtemKaznatcheev the SE community team jumps down your throat
more officially, they're pretty disruptive/prominent, so only for very important stuff
 
I felt this was important. If you don't agree, email not_listening@stackexchange.com
 
I'm gonna mail them about all kinds of modabuse
 
Tell this this one mod just won't delete things, he's such a pain!
Also he's always harassing poor @Mien in chat!
Someone really need to give that Gitlin guy the boot
...oh wait...
 
@JoshGitlin Hey, did @jonsca told you that?
 
@JoshGitlin You'd better not, that's my avocation
 
8:15 PM
hahaha. I am totally joking :-)
It's been a... difficult... day here, lol
 
Luckily for you!
 
How are you @Mien?
 
puts fierce gaze away
I'm fine, thanks :-) yourself?
 
@Mien You direct that this way ;)
(in a good way of course)
 
You couldn't handle it ;)
 
8:16 PM
@Mien I have, and I will
 
@JoshGitlin delete all the things
 
deleting is for pussies
 
@Mien hanging in there!
 
:P
keep hanging!
 
I'm at 136 comments for Workplace this month. thankfully people flag, I'd never find all that crap on my own
 
8:18 PM
and at that, Ben Brocka collapsed on his keyboard, Ben Brocka 1990-2012
Weird, the "own" part of your comment only appeared after I typed mine
 
Pft, I've got way more deletions in me
 
I though we'd lost you mid-sentence
"I'm invincible, I'm going to live fo
jonsca, 1940-2012
 
I'm gonna head for bed, gn all
 
@Mien Awww, but I just got here. Okay. Sweet dreams!!
 
If you're lucky, I'll dream about you!
 
8:21 PM
:D
 
Bye ;)
 
Bye
 
@Mien Later!
 
(no, I'm not nearly that old, it just feels like it)
Unlike Old Man Gitlin, the bird watcher
@ArtemKaznatcheev I don't stalk your followers ;) but now I know, and knowing is half the battle.
 
 
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10:07 PM
@jonsca hahahah
 
@JoshGitlin I'll have to point you to a Dann Hoyos mp3 if there's one out there, he's the 20something Steve Vai, or the next Steve Vai
 
I'll search for that tomorrow, thanks @jonsca!
 
;)
 

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