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10:15 AM
@Szabolcs I have read your issue on the idea repo about the completion of simple identifiers that were mentioned and that don't have a definition.
You are aware, that you can complete them, yes? They are just not autocompleted. The reason is that the autocompletion really needs to be fast and should not dive deep into the tree.
 
10:48 AM
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Q: Help with code development

TomI have a code that is tens of lines long, aimed at quite a specific task, and I don't know why it isn't behaving the way I expect so as to be able to narrow the problem. My question would be a more sophisticated version of "this no work ****code dump**** why no work?" What is the policy/attitude ...

 
 
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12:30 PM
How do people get away with publishing stuff like this as a new idea? journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/…
Is it just Tai's method all over again? It's published in a biology journal of all places!
 
@Szabolcs Hehe.. this is pretty easy to explain.
Journals like PLOS One need papers to get any impact factor at all. Authors need to publish something. Doesn't matter what. Journal meets author :)
@Szabolcs have you ever read how PLOS measures impact of their articles?
 
No
 
Beside other stuff, you find here:
> We also track the dissemination activity of articles through Twitter, Facebook, and Reddit. Given the ease and scope of digital propagation, researchers increasingly employ this social channel to recommend and discuss articles. This activity thus represents interest in the article, in a similar manner as usage data and provides insight into the reach of the article.
I can now publish nature-like articles when I just get enough likes on Facebook :)
 
Right. They already have 33 citations then.
 
12:49 PM
...Other people who bought Purina Beyond Natural Grain Free Dry Dog Food were also interested in these research articles
 
1:26 PM
@halirutan Mother of...
It is telling that there is no mention of Tufte anywhere in the article. ;)
 
I was as surprises as you. I never heard of the journal and about a year ago a colleague mentioned that it has risen with extreme speed and many scientists publish there.
Additionally, my friend mentioned something with IF 8 or so which is quite unusual for such a new journal and that was why I read the "impact metrics".
 
1:52 PM
@Szabolcs @J.M. Ahhhh, and now I remember why I needed to look the PLOS stuff up!
It was because of this highly scientific work:
> An Efficiency Comparison of Document Preparation Systems Used in Academic Research and Development
Abstract:
> To assist the research community, we report a software usability study in which 40 researchers across different disciplines prepared scholarly texts with either Microsoft Word or LaTeX. The probe texts included simple continuous text, text with tables and subheadings, and complex text with several mathematical equations. We show that LaTeX users were slower than Word users, wrote less text in th[...]
 
Posting that in the LaTeX chat ought to be fun... :P
Well yes, it is certainly quicker to produce cheap shit than quality work. Was a paper really needed to come to that conclusion?
 
@Szabolcs a propos outer scoping constructs taking care about inner, why isn't DynamicModule part of the party?
element[Dynamic[y_]] :=
 DynamicModule[{x = 0}, {Dynamic[x], Dynamic[y]}]

DynamicModule[{x},
 Column[{
   element[Dynamic[x]],
   Slider[Dynamic[x]],
   Dynamic[x]
   }]
 ]
This is probably quite close to Istvan's recent question.
@Szabolcs if element's x would have been renamed to $x it could have worked. :-/ Notice that $x not x$ where the latter isn't considered different than x. Daily fun.
 
2:28 PM
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Q: Does LaTeX really perform worse than Word?

KennyPeanutsA new study in PLOS ONE1 concludes that even novice MS Word users perform better than expert LaTeX users in document creation. I have read the article and I feel like I have identified some flaws in their approach and design but I figured this community would be the best positioned to rigorousl...

@halirutan Tragically, where I work now I am forced to use Word and it's an incredible time waster. Before I used LaTeX and acknowledged that some prefer Word without thinking too much about it. Now I hate Word with a passion.
 
@Szabolcs Well, it is OK if I'm not the lead author. I'm providing my additions as text or hack them with word. I know quite some people preparing their thesis with Word and it is always a pain in the final stage. Even with things like EndNote to create references. Creating the final layout is the horror.
 
2:52 PM
@halirutan I found it to be extremely buggy. In particular: (1) It crashes. A lot. And I lose work. (2) Sometimes things go wrong with the Track Changes feature and you find that it just won't save documents. I made changes, it tracked them, but it just won't save. I could copy all text into a new document and save like that, but then I lose the tracking ... (3) Searching for text is unreliable. The fact that it doesn't find it does not mean that it is not there.
(4) Some people like to put line numbers and refer to stuff based on that without realizing that the line number display is often inaccurate. Scrolling through the document changes the numbers. (5) It is just so slow to scroll when there are many tracked changes!
(6) It rasterizes embedded PDF figures with low resolution and loses the original data. It does this only with some PDFs and only on first save. Before saving it can even export to PDF and preserve vector graphics. But on save it destroys them. And people here insist in including figures directly ...
I'm using the latest Mac version.
We do figure labelling and figure references manually and have to relabel all the time. Mistakes get introduced. Citations are done by a lady employed to help with such things, as only she has EndNote.
 
3:10 PM
@Szabolcs Exactly. And now try to imagine a friend of mine writing up her habilitation thesis..
She is currently going crazy.
(btw, she is writing up all the references by herself without any citation software)
 
3:38 PM
With[{points = 1000, samples = 500000, iterations = 20},
  Nest[
   With[{randoms = Join[#, RandomPoint[Sphere[], samples]]},
     Normalize@Mean@randoms[[#]] & /@
      Values@PositionIndex@Nearest[#, randoms]] &,
   RandomPoint[Sphere[], points], iterations]] //
 Graphics3D[{Sphere[{0, 0, 0}, 0.999], Red, Point@#}] &
Reasonably compact, I'd say. A bit racy at parts.
 
 
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5:34 PM
In Windows, can I move the documentation to another partition if I have already installed?
 
@Kuba What result do you get?
I'm happy with the output ...
DynamicModule is a bit strange because it does evaluate partially ... try to convert the output to InputForm.
But maybe I'm confused.
@JoeStavitsky What brings you to the Mathematica room?
 
@Szabolcs are you happy that the second 0 isn't 0.346?
 
@Szabolcs, um, what I said? I'd like to move documentation off my system drive, if I can
 
While I can accept why this happens, a more intuitive result is different.
 
@JoeStavitsky Sorry, I missed it. I don't think that is possible, at least not on Windows.
 
5:44 PM
@Szabolcs, ok ty
 
@JoeStavitsky But you can delete it and use online docs. There was a question about that and nothing critical came out.
 
You can still use the online docs.
 
@Kuba @Szabolcs, ty, I will use that if all else fails. Shall I post a question, just in case and to thare with others?
 
@Joe On Unix I would try symlinks. I don't know if there's an alternative on Windows ... msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/… This page mentioned "Junctions" which are supposed to work between drives.
 
@JoeStavitsky you can but I'd try with WRI support too
 
5:47 PM
@Szabolcs, yea another last resort since I have not messed with that before, but I was thiking that too
 
@Joe How about applying file system level compression to the documentation notebooks? I believe that is possible on Windows.
I used that sometimes for files I never modified, when I was using Windows.
 
@Szabolcs, maybe too. I will look later. This is a tactical problem right now, I need space on my system partition, but all these are good strategic otions that I will look at, so thank you.
 
There is "Global Options -> File Locations -> SystemHelpPath". Not sure if modifying that is helpful.
 
@Szabolcs I've left some comments in related topic, what do you think? 116167
 
@MichaelHale, that seems like exactly what I am looking for, but - when inputting windows filesystem path, do I need curlybraces and/pr brackets? Am I expected to escape out special characters?
 
6:05 PM
@JoeStavitsky The current value of mine is a list of 3 directories, each with a FrontEnd`FileName[{...}] wrapper. I would try just adding your directory as an extra entry in that list.
{..., FrontEnd`FileName[{"D:\\Data\\Mathematica Documentation"}]}
 
@MichaelHale, did you mean to put 2 slashes each time?
 
@JoeStavitsky Backslashes. "\\" encodes a single backslash in a string. Like in C.
 
@JoeStavitsky Yes. When inputting a string you need to escape backslashes.
 
@MichaelHale, ok, ty, I will try right now
 
 
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7:22 PM
What are the green X'es that show up before various entries in "options for global preferences" in windows?
They toggle, if I click on them
 
7:50 PM
@JoeStavitsky That means you have changed the value to something other than default. Clicking the x will remove your value and reset it to default.
 
8:15 PM
Can anybody else try the following and report CPU usage?
trainingset = {1 -> "A", 2 -> "A", 3.5 -> "B", 4 -> "B"};
c = Classify[trainingset];
Dynamic[c@RandomReal[4], UpdateInterval -> 1]
Dynamic[c@RandomReal[4]] lets my CPU run at full throttle. Is this behavior expected? Wolfram Supports seems to think so.
 
@Sascha Dynamic[c@RandomReal[4], UpdateInterval -> 1] returns A instantly. So does the last command. MMA 10.3.0.0 on Linux Ubuntu 15.10.
 
@anderstood does it dynamically update as well?
 
@Sascha Well, the one with UpdateInterval updates every second, but the other one does not.
Hi all, I have a memory leakage problem ; the (rather short) code is available at http://pastebin.com/q7KkxPuG and the leakage can be seen using `MemoryInUse[]
Array[getCurve[{s[1] -> 1, s[2] -> 1 + 0*#}] &, 100];
MemoryInUse[]`. I checked thoroughly but did managed to find where the leakage comes from: all the varaibles are `Remove`d, the don't increase, only the used memory does...
Any ideas where this apparent leakage comes from?
 
8:48 PM
Dynamic[c@RandomReal[4]] does indeed not dynamically update (which is expected according to documentation, that was my bad) but Dynamic[c@RandomReal[4], UpdateInterval->0] does as fast as possible.
Yesterday I tried using another classifier inside a Dynamic on CurrentImage[] and CPU usage was super high so I tied to find a simpler example and see if this is indeed normal behavior or just a bug. After an email from support I am a little confused about what to expect from Dynamic when it comes to CPU load. Up until now I expected that a computation that takes just 0.002 when evaluated individually would run at reasonable rates (like 25fps) without noticeable CPU load.
*0.002 seconds
 
9:33 PM
@MichaelHale, ty, now what is the "x" at the end of the line you pasted (your help path)?
@MichaelHale And, btw, it didnt work - returns -""paclet:guide/WolframRoot" could not be found."
 
@JoeStavitsky Not sure. Maybe it means the entry is invalid. It was just a guess.
 
10:02 PM
What is the default documentation folder under WIndows? I experimented with moving it and stupidly rebooted before writing it down
 

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