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12:44 AM
@ArnoudBuzing Really really really looking forward. Do you know if the problem where the kernel was randomly crashing while Mathematica was idle is fixed? It's what caused me the most frustration and wasted time.
@ArnoudBuzing This one
 
 
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1:55 AM
Working on 10.0.1
 
2:46 AM
i bought mathematica home 3 weeks ago, now it tells me my license expires next week, and they want $95 from me to update to 10.0.1 ?
that can't be right can it?
that's like $10 a day, and i wasn't aware that your license expires when a new version comes out
 
 
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4:26 AM
@wesen Have you activated it? Contact support if the problem persists, I have had similar issues multiple times and they have been always resolved.
 
glad to hear that yes i activated and contacted support
i was afraid i misread some fine print and my license was void because of 10.0.1
 
4:58 AM
@wesen WRI hasn't released x.1 upgrades for a while... so I can't say of those, but for quite a while, all except full-integer upgrades have been free.
 
ok so maybe it's another of those license things, because when i want to download it it asks me to upgrade for $95
 
@wesen That's odd, assuming you purchased v10. I'd definitely send more mail to support...
 
yeah i purchased it 2 weeks ago, and have had a very happy time with it.
 
I haven't seen 10.0.1 upload yet, so I don't know if there are regressions to see...
 
i fear i will have to switch to professional soon because it is just too tempting
 
5:03 AM
Couple weeks sounds like typical license issues I've got resolved many times.
 
but that is an extremely steep price difference
 
@wesen Yes. Surely you know all features are present in the home edition, differences are mostly on the support side and, most centrally, limited domain of use?
 
yes, that's what i mean. too tempting to use it for work
 
@wesen I'm sort of feeling the same way. Rational thinking says that you have to have quite high financial benefit directly attributable to use of Mma to make that upgrade and change domain of use, though.
 
of about 100$ a month
now that i'm an employee however this is kind of a different equation. and i don't think the company will buy it for me, but it would definitely make my daily work more enjoyable.
 
5:17 AM
If I'd be self-employed, it might actually make sense, but I'm not really...
 
what is your job? i definitely miss my freelancer days. deducting all that stuff from taxes, and basically being "it saves me 3 days of work? done deal."
gotta signoff, good night
 
5:36 AM
@wesen Network-related low-level software development. Occassionally situations where Mma would be useful for prototyping or clarifying ideas arise, but that's quite rare in practice.
So, my Mma use is really hobbyist off-work tinkering with ideas of all sorts.
@wesen Ah, see you.
 
 
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7:42 AM
@Murta are you joking? I still can't see it in the portal.
 
@SjoerdC.deVries I can see it but I'm in China now which means I can't download it ...
 
@Szabolcs autch!
Seems I'll be pressing F5 the whole day...
 
 
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9:13 AM
@SjoerdC.deVries WRI has strange habit of bringing versions to customers in a rolling manner.
Actually, I think I now figured out why they do it. They probably want to keep support response time and quality at reasonable level, instead of creating huge spikes. For an organization with relatively small support staff, that is probably useful. So, it's not about technology, it's about people...
Also, that way they are more likely to have ready-made known issue at hand for most customers running into the same issue.
 
9:38 AM
Would someone with Mathematica 8 please check to see if this bug is present in that version?: mathematica.stackexchange.com/q/30532/121
 
 
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10:47 AM
@Mr.Wizard I get the following output, without an error message:
 
@SjoerdC.deVries Thanks!
 
@Mr.Wizard So this is marginally better, but still wrong (going by OP's description of the expected output; I didn't give it any thoughts)
 
@SjoerdC.deVries Oops, I didn't look at the result, only the "without an error."
@SjoerdC.deVries That is the same output that I get from v7 and v10. In what way(s) is it wrong?
 
@Mr.Wizard But if I examine the input, it looks OK to me.
@Mr.Wizard It looks OK; I misread the OP's wording
 
@Sjoerd OK. :-)
 
11:00 AM
@Mr.Wizard Did you get 10.0.1?
Still nothing here
 
@SjoerdC.deVries You can request the trial version, which is presently 10.0.1, as RunnyKine suggested.
 
11:39 AM
@Sjoerd Did that work for you?
 
12:17 PM
@Mr.Wizard Downloading at the moment. Hope it will take my current credentials and not the trial key.
 
@Murta Probably not. I mean, I know about some of them, but not about all. Taliesin Beynon (Tali) is the right person to ask about it.
 
12:53 PM
@Mr.Wizard Downloaded and installed. Let the installer launch MMA, executed "1+1" kernel never returned with the answer. Had to restart, everything OK now, as far as I can see.
 
1:11 PM
@Mr.Wizard No improvement regarding this issue:
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Q: Is this 30% slowdown in Mathematica 10 due to DownValues lookup time?

Rolf MertigRunning several numerical self-programmed packages I realized already some time ago that Mathematica 10 needed between 20 and 40% more time. I did already report this of course with a simple example to Wolfram support, but have somehow not got any official response. Investigating a bit more I w...

No improvement here:
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Q: Mathematica 10 Notebook Fonts Look Bad

GlenoI've upgraded my home installation of Mathematica from version 9 to 10 today on a Windows 8.1 machine, and I'm getting a weird font issue - the fonts are not anti-aliased, and look unbalanced and weird. Just look: For comparison, here what it looks on Linux with Mathematica V10 At t...

This one seems solved:
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Q: What is wrong with triangle PlotMarkers in v.10.0.0?

Alexey PopkovIn Mathematica 10.0.0 we have built-in graphical triangle PlotMarkers. Let us look closer on them: ListLinePlot[{{Missing[]}, {{0, 0}}}, PlotTheme -> "Monochrome", ImageSize -> 20, Ticks -> False, AxesOrigin -> {0, 0}, BaseStyle -> {Magnification -> 10, Thickness -> Tiny}] ListLinePlot[{{Mi...

but this one not:
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Q: BitShiftRight produces incorrect results in Version 10

DBMWith Mathematica 10 for Mac, BitShiftRight works properly on lists of up to 100000 numbers, but appears to give incorrect results when threaded over lists of 100001 or more: v1 = Table[i, {i, 1, 100000}]; v2 = Table[i, {i, 1, 100001}]; s1 = BitShiftRight[v1]; s2 = BitShiftRight[v2]; s1[[1 ;; 10]...

 
1:37 PM
To quote the email I received, these were the areas where we *should* expect bug fixes: "Users who may have encountered problems in Mathematica 10.0.0
working with select functionality for semantic import, weather
data, optimization, associations, numerical solvers, and symbolic
integration or measure computation over regions should find that
these issues have also been resolved in Mathematica 10.0.1."
 
@blochwave I noticed a change in semantic import indeed. A CSV file that I could SemanticImport yesterday, got messages about character encoding not being UTF8 today. Adding a CharacterEncoding->"ISOLatin1" solved the problem.
 
@SjoerdC.deVries I'm pretty sad about the font thing; I thought that would make it into the "high priority fixes" list.
 
@Mr.Wizard Really? I hadn't paid much attention to it until I saw the specific question. Now I'm getting annoyed by it :(
 
@SjoerdC.deVries It may be worse if you use a non-default font size or zoom as I do. I've learned to live with it for now but it really looks bad. I'd think simply as a matter of polish Wolfram wouldn't want v10 looking like this!
I went ahead a marked that Question as a bug. Arguably it's a quality problem rather than a bug, but maybe this will get it some attention.
 
@Mr.Wizard Even better if you would report it to WRI support, of course
 
1:47 PM
@SjoerdC.deVries I think someone already did. I am operating on the idea that bad publicity is a better approach. Look what it did for multiple undo! >:^D
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This one seem to be solved:
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Q: BarLegend changes in Version 10

bbgodfreyApparently, BarLegend in version 10 displays tick legends in scientific notation when they are smaller in magnitude than 0.01. For instance, BarLegend[{"Rainbow", {-.015, .015}}, LabelStyle -> Directive[Black, Bold, FontSize -> 12]] creates the object How can I change the tick labels to d...

 
2:34 PM
This one also solved for me:
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Q: Potential pollution of Global` context in fresh kernel

Jacob AkkerboomIf I evaluate, with a fresh kernel Names["Global`*"] I get {"rhs", "z"} I think this is not caused by any packages in $UserBaseDirectory or $BaseDirectory, because if I evaluate the same expression under V9.0.1, which has the same strings for these variables (directories), I get Names["G...

 
2:49 PM
"NeuralNetwork" has been added to the possible methods for Classify. However, it has not been added to the auto-completions list.
 
2:59 PM
Changed but not solved (I think):
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Q: Bug in handling backslashed Cyrillic symbols in v.10.0.0?

Alexey PopkovConsider: "\бвгд" // FullForm "\\бвгд" // FullForm In v.8.0.4 I get this: "\\:0431\:0432\:0433\:0434" "\\\:0431\:0432\:0433\:0434" But v.10.0.0 adds redundant backslash before the first backslashed Cyrillic symbol: "\\\:0431\:0432\:0433\:0434" "\\\\:0431\:0432\:0433\:0434" As the r...

Not solved:
9
Q: PlotMarkers problem in ErrorListPlot, Mathematica 10

nateI recently upgraded to Mathematica 10, very excited about the multiple undo function of course. However I very quickly noticed that if I specify a setting for PlotMarkers in the ErrorListPlot function, the error bars disappear. Even just setting PlotMarkers->Automatic makes the error bars disapp...

 
3:16 PM
Not solved:
8
Q: Sqrt disappeared when exporting plot to PDF in version 10

Yi WangIn version 10, if we plot with Sqrt in y-axis, and export to PDF, the square root disappears in the PDF file. p = Plot[x, {x, 0, 1}, Frame -> True, FrameLabel -> {"x", "\!\(\*SqrtBox[\(y\)]\)"}] Export["test.pdf", p] This does not happen in version 9.

 
3:49 PM
Not solved:
8
Q: Mathematica 10 Graph issue

PlatoManiacPlease try to evaluate this code in Mathematica 10. << ComputationalGeometry` g = RandomGraph[{12, 18}]; pt = GraphEmbedding[g]; convexhull = ConvexHull[pt]; Show[PlanarGraphPlot[pt, convexhull, ColorOutput -> Red], g, Graphics[{Red, PointSize@Large, Point[#]} & /@ pt]] Works perfectly fine ...

Problem morphed into another issue (FormulaLookup["gas"] yields Missing["NotAvailable"] ):
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Q: Mathematica 10 crashes on copy/paste

Luca MMathematica 10 crashes in the following (simple) situation: FormulaLookup["gas"] This command will produce a long list of possible formulas. Then I type the following command below the list (and not run it) FormulaData[] When I copy one of the formulas produced by the FormulaLookup command ...

This one still there:
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Q: AbsoluteOptions prints error messages in V10

AlgohiI am trying to use AbsoluteOptions in V10 but I am getting the Out with some errors as see in this picture: does anyone have same issue?

 
@SjoerdC.deVries How about this?
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Q: Controlling quality of discretized region meshes

kirmaI want to discretize 3D constructive solids, supported by Mathematica 10 regions functionality. Quality of resulting meshes must be controllable, and meshes must be useful for further computation. This should be easy, but the trivial example below stuns me. (* Simple derived region in 3D with a...

In my opinion it's really a bug, not a feature. :)
 
@kirma I don't see a difference
 
OK...
 
 
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5:24 PM
0
Q: Peculiar disappearance of a question thread

Igor RivinI don't understand why the recent question about kernel crashes has completely disappeared. This looks very bad (in that it makes mathematica.stackexchange.com look like a Wolfram PR site, which I am sure it is not).

 
 
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8:53 PM
Anyone have an opinion if the 10.0.1 version has become a daily driver? The bugs fixed seem a mixed bag and I am wondering if it is worth upgrading since I downgraded to 9.
 
9:18 PM
@Mr.Wizard Multi-undo was delayed because it was a technically difficult problem, not because of a perceived lack of interest in it. I remember there was a petition of sorts online. I understand why everyone was frustrated.
 
@Gabriel I believe WRI explicitly stated you can run v9 with your preceding license, and v10 with the current one. Also on the same machine. It definitely works in my case.
 
@kirma good to know, will double check that.
 
@Gabriel I'm not certain what was the source of this information, I guess some sort of a v10 installation FAQ.
 
@kirma are you finding the update more stable? Acceptably fast for your older code?
 
@Gabriel I haven't yet received 10.0.1, so I can't say much of it, but this far I have ran to only one clear regression in comparison to v9. It's just that those new functionalities do have bugs of their own.
 
9:45 PM
@kirma You can download the trial version, which is available to everyone. It uses your 10.0.0 credentials and works as the standard edition.
 
10:05 PM
@SjoerdC.deVries I'm too lazy to do that. :)
And also, it's time to sleep... ->
 

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