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12:21 AM
If anyone is around, we need one more close vote for this: mathematica.stackexchange.com/q/5514/8
 
12:39 AM
@Verbeia apparently, someone got to it.
But, we could use one last close vote for this question: mathematica.stackexchange.com/q/5494/52
 
R.M
@rcollyer needs 2 more to delete. OP was seen online after my comment, so I'm guessing they've read it...
 
@RM needs 1 more for delete ...
@RM you keep drawing more downvotes on Reddit with the boggle question ... have you seen any additional votes here with that?
Also, how did you generate the animation?
 
R.M
@rcollyer Szabolcs shared on HN... he'll probably get a gold by the end of the day
 
HN?
 
R.M
Reddit downvotes are random... the system automatically inflates upvotes and downvotes proportional to the velocity of votes so that people don't think they are influencing it in any way... the score is correct though
 
12:51 AM
@RM Ah, hackernews. I forget about that one.
 
R.M
@rcollyer I haven't gotten any downvotes on the post... it would take a really mean spirit to downvote the question or either of our answers :)
 
@RM I meant on reddit, you've been gaining downvotes. And, you're right if they downvoted you here, we'd have to get the pitchforks ...
 
R.M
@rcollyer the edit has the code for it... at the very end is a viewer with next/prev... just remove those bits and take the core grid layout and use Table
 
I did not see that. It got so long, I stopped reading. :)
 
R.M
@rcollyer yeah, I answered that a little above... it's a system design to "fix" the numbers. You'll see less of it in small volume tags though
 
12:55 AM
@RM I don't pretend to understand their algorithm, but I don't have to, someone else is running it.
 
Hi R & r !
 
R.M
Hi b! :)
 
Well, I'm drinking beer, so I am pretty relaxed ...
 
Beer is the fuel of science
 
And the downfall of the ability to concentrate. I am a lightweight, though.
 
12:57 AM
of course. You need full concentration for an exam. And plenty of relaxation for a discovery :)
 
for my general, I was talking for 2 1/2 hours straight. Note: the presentation was only supposed to be 45 mins, but I kept getting asked questions ... Really could have used a beer afterwards.
 
R.M
@rcollyer oh, you're done now?
 
@RM no, the general was to advance me to candidacy, that was back in '08.
 
R.M
@rcollyer ah, I see. I had mine the first week of private beta... no wonder I was very active then :)
 
sorry 'bout my foreigner ignorance ... what is a "general"?
 
1:03 AM
@rcollyer I've already voted on that one.
 
hi verbeia!
 
Hi, I really should be working
 
Nobody "really" should :)
 
@belisarius technically, it is the candidacy exam. After you pass it, you technically have the equivalent of a masters. At my school, it is referred to as the general exam. We also have a qualifier which weeds you out in the first two years.
@Verbeia oh well.
 
R.M
@rcollyer at mine, we call the latter the qualifier and the masters is given after the first
 
1:06 AM
But I still have time for some Mathematica. Actually Wolfram is coming to my employer today to present the Mathematica in Finance Platform. I looked at the videos on the weekend, but I can't work out how it's different from normal Mathematica.
They did mention Reuters and Bloomberg data feeds - that would be really nice.
 
@RM here the first is at the senior undergrad level, so no use in awarding a masters.
 
R.M
@rcollyer oh... hmm. Very different then.
 
@rcollyer so the sequence is qualifier, general, PhD?
@Verbeia Reuters and Bloomberg have lots of subscription types
al least here
 
R.M
@belisarius yes, more or less. Except, the names for the first two change wildly depending on which university it is (in mine, even different departments have different names for them)
 
@belisarius yes. With the PhD being a second oral exam, with a similar format to the first: 45 - 60 minutes public lecture, unknown amount of time being grilled in private by one's committee, and finally an unknown amount of time waiting in the hall while your committee debates the merits of letting you pass. Then champagne!
@RM that's the case here as well.
@Verbeia probably not much different. Just the additional feeds.
 
1:09 AM
@rcollyer Well, I'll know this afternoon.
 
@Verbeia sounds like it could be interesting.
 
I doubt they'll NDA us given it's in the wild (and I don't think we can be bound by them anway). So I can pass on my impressions if anyone's interested.
Hi @chris
 
@Verbeia sure. I'm curious.
 
hello
 
@RM I remember some comment done by someone while reading an einstein bio, remarking that at that time German unis had only one exam ... the last and only one. You studied for six years, and then you go to a committee whose members decide if your last six years were useful ...
 
1:12 AM
@belisarius that would have sucked.
 
@rcollyer It was "modern" at that time
 
@belisarius :)
 
I had a "modern physics" course at uni. Made us laugh
Modern meant "De Broglie"
 
R.M
@belisarius we now learn that stuff as classical physics :)
 
@belisarius Yeah, "modern physics" is physics from the early part of the 20th century, and late 19th.
 
1:14 AM
I have a question about BinCounts and BinLists; basically I would like to do a histogram of values of x; but I would like each hit to be weighted by the corresponding value of y. My motivation is to rewrite the mathematica code MorphologicalEulerNumber which seems to have a small statistical bias.
 
R.M
@chris go ahead
 
@rcollyer Any course titled "modern something" should be banned for biased
 
@belisarius I also had a course in "modern algebra", I think we got into the 1920s with that one, also.
 
R.M
@chris btw, this might be the answer you're looking for:
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A: Histograms with pre-counted data

Brett ChampionHistogram doesn't have any built-in support for weighted data, although it's an interesting idea, and most of the binning algorithms should be amenable to working with it. That being said, here's a WeightedHistogram function, with some feedback from Andy Ross. It accepts weighted values (i...

 
@rcollyer Indeed :)
 
1:17 AM
I should go, and pretend to get something done. :|
Night all.
 
@rcollyer night!
@Verbeia I worked for a few Wealth Management Banks in the past. They had very strong requirements about Reuters feeds management :)
 
@RM Brilliant ! That's exactly what I wanted !
well actually its even too good for what I want since I want the resulting data not the plot... but I ll hack into the function.
 
 
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2:46 AM
I really need to pay attention to what site I'm on, I nearly blasted this guy for re-posting a now deleted question about Octave. Note: the question is on Computational Science. Otherwise it is identical to the one he posted earlier.
 
 
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7:18 AM
@rcollyer and others interested: more information on the Finance Platform went live on the Wolfram web site last night.
It was remarkably hard to work out what is different: Bloomberg Link, an Excel link, and automatic use of CUDA for derivatives pricing instead of calling CUDADerivative or whatever the function is explicitly.
Apparently they are bringing a lot of time series functionality into the kernel in version 9. At one point they said that it was also in the finance platform, but I haven't been able to find it in the documentation on the web.
 
8:06 AM
@rcollyer :D
@acl Which?
@acl Oh, that. The thing in my blog doesn't exactly answer the question in the title, and OP has not been responsive on what he wants or expects. Yeesh.
 
@Verbeia Is the Finance Platofrm just an extended version of Mathematica? Or an add-on? Or a compeltely different interface to the kernel?
 
(I've also been working on an inversion method that only needs evaluation at real arguments. As expected, it works, but not as good as methods that allow complex evaluation...)
 
 
2 hours later…
9:53 AM
@Szabolcs It's an extended version of Mathematica, not an add-on. You buy one or the other.
 
 
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11:55 AM
@RM Managed to add 1000 more views to the Boggle question.
 
@Verbeia So there are two products... I can't understand why they didn't add it as a package. Somehow the way they did seems to have more maintenance... What I understood is that they are integrating the Time Series add-on (wolfram.com/products/applications/timeseries) to M9. I really wished they also integrated an Excel link to standard M9...
 
@PFonseca Ah, Excel... that would be nice; a lot of people quite like the spreadsheet paradigm.
(It should also make for interesting macros....)
 
@PFonseca Maybe one complete program sells better than Mathematica plus a package. Especially since Mathematica isn't usually associated with the financial market.
 
But, the way I think about it, Mathematica is so big at this point that it might make sense to split it up in separate packages. Not everybody needs to do image manipulation, for instance.
 
@J.M. An enormous percentage of the business and industrial world is based exclusively on Excel. This means that they have never heard of Mathematica, and it would be much easier to "sell" the mathematica idea if there was a link into the known world...
 
12:04 PM
@PFonseca Indeed. Think of the possibilities of a macro implemented in the Mathematica language... best of both worlds!
 
@JM It depends. The one thing that annoys me enormously about Matlab is their habit of splitting everything into separate packages.
 
@Heike I also guess that that is the reason. But surely hope that under the hood, it is just Mathematica with one or two extra packages...
 
@JM Wolfram's strategy is to keep integrating packages into the core product. This may be based on the idea that it differentiates them from their main competitor, MathWorks.
 
@Heike totally agree with the "do not split" strategy. Everything should be integrated
 
@JM That would be nice actually. Or be able to create plots directly from Excel.
 
12:05 PM
@Heike Hmm, I see what you mean. But, don't you think a case could be made for modularity, as opposed to the current "Japanese toilet" setup of Mathematica?
To use the image manipulation functions again as an example: if you'll be using them a lot, by all means, install them. But if you don't need them, you could get away with a Mathematica installation that doesn't take up that much space...
 
@PFonseca What does the Excel link do? I think creating a basic integration would not be so difficult (at least on Windows where we have .NETLink). But no one in the sciences (theoretical) uses Excel, so never really needed it beyond importing a few spreadsheets...
 
@JM It would be nice to have an option when you install Mathematica to install certain parts of it and skip others.
 
I'm a little surprised that no one has created a free Excel link if there's truly a demand.
 
Sure, nobody does serious scientific computing in Excel, but if Wolfram wants to cater to the business-types, they really should look into spreadsheet interfaces...
 
No to modularity !!! I've learned a lot from Mathematica, on themes that I didn't even thought they existed. All because of it having everything inside.
 
12:10 PM
@PFonseca I agree with that completely
 
@PFonseca That's what I like about Mathematica
 
@PFonseca So you prefer monoliths? :)
 
It's not that huge in terms of disk space. No need to make parts skippable for now.
If there's anything they should make skippable it's the 64 bit version on 32 bit systems.
 
@J.M. Not just any monolith! Well built monoliths!!
 
@JM I prefer a broad base with the possibility to extend bits if you want.
 
12:13 PM
Okay. It's just that I don't want to have chains on my tires if I'm not expecting to drive through snow...
But Szabolcs has a point. Storage is getting cheaper every year, that we tolerate the bloat that increases with each version increment...
 
@Szabolcs The excel link lets you call Mathematica functions directly from Excel (and vice versa). I don’t particulary appreciate Excel (I was a heavy user for long time, with lots of programming done in their VBA). But my problem with Mathematica (or MATLAB, or etc), is that most of the companies in my world only see these softwares as huge complicated scientific minded things. If only there was a better link to the real world, I could more easily bring Mathematica into it!
 
@PFonseca Heh, they'd be surprised if you can show them Mathematica routines that almost read like instructions in English...
 
@J.M. Normally the surprise stops at the price...
 
@PFonseca I think that's what they're trying to do with W|A and the demonstrations project.
@PFonseca The home use licence is quite reasonable
 
@Heike Do you mean bring notoriety to their name?
 
12:19 PM
hm, 300 eur + vat?
 
@Heike I agree that the home use is very well priced. But to have a budget to pay the European price (never understood why such a difference to the US price), when I'm the only person that knows how to use it... it was very very hard.
 
@PFonseca I meant showing the public what Mathematica can do.
@Szabolcs it's £189+VAT in the UK
 
Here on the page it says 295 EUR + VAT
some 50 EUR difference excl. VAT
 
I was thinking on the price difference to the professional license...
 
I know, I was just wondering why there's such a big difference (in percentage) for the home edition
 
12:24 PM
@Szabolcs Maybe the price stems from the time when one pound was 1.50 euros
But that was about 6 years ago
Also there is a different distributor for mainland europe and for the UK, so maybe that makes a difference as well.
 
@Heike They'd probably frown at using the Home Edition for business purposes... :)
 
Anyway, the price differences are never greater than a factor of two between regions. The salary differences are much greater. I hate this about software.
 
@Heike for sure it comes from specific Europe cost support (I think someone from Wolfram once confirmed it). But it is a big percentage difference...
 
@JM True (and rightly so).
 
@Szabolcs Pricing logic is weird sometimes...
 
12:29 PM
@Szabolcs totally agree. I come from Portugal, and so, a lot of things are way too expensive for that local market...
 
Right now in Romania a 400 EUR net salary is pretty good. The VAT is now 24%. That means that the price of the home edition comes very close to that not-so-bad salary.
 
@PFonseca I don't see why they would have extra cost in Euro-countries compared to the UK though.
 
@Heike because of the crazy demands from some of their users ;-)
 
@PFonseca Like links to excel and stuff
 
@Heike for example... and who knows... undo, and JIT JS8 type of compiler, and super fast garbage collecting, and...
Well, lunch time is way over. Need to go back to work...
 
12:36 PM
@PFonseca So it's you who's responsible for the price difference. ;-)
 
@Heike And in this case... I'm proud of being greedy :-)
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acl
1:25 PM
hmmm... any point why this answer got a downvote?
1
A: Function for Autocorrelation

aclIf you search the docs for "autocorrelation", ListConvolve turns up. There's also ListCorrelate. Does this work for you?

 
@acl Can't see why either. OP is infamous for not checking docs before asking...
 
acl
@JM perhaps a random downvote from the hordes we're currently inviting over from reddit etc :)
 
Hehe, "hordes".
 
hush! They'll discover your comment and downvote you massively! :)
 
bel, stop giving people ideas... :P
 
1:32 PM
I am posting them "there" :D
 
2:07 PM
@Heike I don't necessarily mind there being many different packages, after all I program in c++ and it is all "packages." My issue is having to pay for them.
 
acl
@rcollyer I agree, having to << them first is fine, so long as I don't have to pay for them. Having mma is a bit like having a huge library of books available, where you can skim through whatever catches your eye.
Sometimes you find interesting things like this.
(and sometimes you just waste days or weeks, but it's still fun)
 
The home edition seems to represent very good value for such a professional and comprehensive product.
 
acl
@image_doctor Indeed, if you actually think about what it contains, it's not outrageous.
come to think of it, it's cheaper than photoshop...
I like to view the money spent on the home license in terms of equivalent books: how many books could I buy with that money?
 
@acl ... a sort of Photoshop+ :)
 
acl
@image_doctor actually with a bit more work in this direction we won't need image editors:
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A: Image levels: how to alter 'exposure' of dark and light areas?

aclTwo things. First, a minor point: if you rewrite your compiled function as tweakC = Compile[{{pixel, _Real, 1}}, Module[{m}, m = Mean[pixel]; Which[ m <= 0.3, pixel*1.5, m >= 0.85, pixel*0.8, True, pixel] ] ] then the ImageApply bit is 20 times faster (due to n...

although some operations tend to be a bit slow in mma :)
 
2:23 PM
@acl ... hmm no Sigmoid function in MMA ?
 
acl
what's wrong with ArcTan[x]?
 
@image_doctor With Erf[], ArcTan[], and Tanh[], what for? ;)
 
@JM For the trigonometrically challenged perhaps ... :)
 
@rcollyer That's what I meant.
 
or perhaps because it doesn't have the branch cut ?
 
2:30 PM
@image_doctor ArcTan[] has a branch cut, yes. Tanh[] is meromorphic, and Erf[] is holomorphic, though.
 
<- consults google
 
@Heike I thought so, but wanted to clarify.
@JM I think this question is a candidate for migration here. Thoughts?
 
@image_doctor To see things a bit more clearly: Function[f, Plot3D[Abs[f[x+I y]], {x, -5, 5}, {y, -5, 5}]] /@ {ArcTan, Tanh, Erf}
 
@image_doctor I'm assuming you're not referring to a specific part of the large intestine
 
@rcollyer Methinks so.
 
2:36 PM
@JM Since you are a big bad mod, I'll let you do the heavy lifting. :)
I'll flag it, though, so I can get some credit. ;)
 
@rcollyer Yes, flag it. I don't have the diamond at SO, see...
 
@JM yes, but a flag by you (being a mod here) carries more weight than my measly non-mod flag.
 
@heike lol :
 
acl
@rcollyer yes, interesting question too
 
I wonder if I should include my addendum regarding bilaterally symmetric blots to my ink blot answer?
@rcollyer Fine, fine, let me pull a few strings...
 
2:40 PM
@acl I think he'll do well using PackedArrays and Table. My god, he should use Table. Auto-compile and everything.
 
acl
I think `Function[f,
Plot3D[Re[f[x + I y]], {x, -5, 5}, {y, -5, 5}]] /@ {ArcTan, Tanh,
Erf}` is better
 
@JM sure. sounds interesting.
 
acl
@rcollyer who knows...
 
@acl Works, too. Anything to display cuts and poles...
 
@acl yes that makes it clearer
 
2:45 PM
@acl I doubt it would hurt.
 
Erf is surprisingly busy off of the real axis
 
@image_doctor That's because Exp[z] is oscillatory for complex z
 
@JM an So diamond mod has left a message for the OP, so we'll see if he goes for the migration.
 
@heike I try not to leave the real axis ... my imagination is very scary
 
@rcollyer Yes.
 
2:59 PM
@image_doctor But, the complex plane is fun to explore, you just have to be careful that you don't hit any poles!
 
@image_doctor I'm the other way around. I often prefer the imaginary world over the real one.
 
@Heike Oscillatory around the $\pi/4$ line (hence the Fresnel integrals), and exponentially growing on the imaginary axis (hence the imaginary error function Erfi[]).
@rcollyer Eh? Meromorphic functions are fun!
 
@rcollyer .. perhaps I should check that out .... "I may be some time..."
 
@JM until you're eaten by a singularity
(damn grammar rules)
 
You're welcome. ;)
 
3:01 PM
@rcollyer I'm always tripping over homophones too
 
@image_doctor they should be stored in their case when you're done using them, like any instrument.
 
acl
@Heike problem is that in the imaginary world you must eventually explode (or you're constant)... terrible. the real world is safer
 
@Heike you are probably right .. my imaginary bank account looks a lot better than my real one ...
 
@acl Only for entire functions.
 
@rcollyer packs away his t'rouserphone
 
3:03 PM
@acl Yes, that imp Liouville...
 
@image_doctor that went a direction I didn't intend.
 
@rcollyer .. me too ... I was aiming at a homophone of souzaphone
 
@rcollyer I don't think church organs come with cases
 
Just to further show off the nice oscillatory behavior of the error function, here's a neat way to see a clothoid: ParametricPlot[Through[{Re, Im}[Erf[(1 + I) t]]], {t, -5, 5}]
 
@Heike they do, it just involves moving the whole building ...
@image_doctor I think you missed. :)
 
3:06 PM
@rcollyer I think the accent wasn't displayed correctly by the front end
 
@image_doctor so you say, so you say ... :)
 
@image_doctor sues a faun?
 
looks around, I think there is a lawyer in the building ..,. :S
 
beat me to it!
 
3:08 PM
Bambi ... don't worry it will turn out alright in the end, well part from the thing with your mother :(
 
Hmmm, venison steak. Oops, to graphic?
 
@JM pretty
venison steak //TraditionalForm
 
Here's a mathematica question: how do I get this to work?
f[m:{_Integer ..}:{}] := m
f[] returns f[].
I could use f[m:{_Integer ...}] := m, but then f[] does not work then, either.
 
f[m:{_Integer ...}:{}] := m works
 
3:13 PM
I wonder why the first form didn't ... Oh well. Thanks.
 
@rcollyer Because {_Integer ..} expects a list of one or more integers.
 
I prefer f[m : {___Integer}] := m myself.
(BlankNullSequence is a wonderful thing...)
 
@Heike it does, but absent anything shouldn't Optional have kicked in.
@JM true, very true.
 
@rcollyer Yes, but you haven't given a definition for f[{}]
 
@Heike well I feel like an idiot now. Of course.
Glad I didn't ask this as a question ...
@JM but, you get to use ... so rarely. I bet it's lonely. :P
 
3:18 PM
@rcollyer Not my fault that I don't push all the buttons when I use a Japanese toilet... :P
 
@JM aren't they rigged to explode if you press them all?
 
Apart from people not being able to post additional answers are there any other effects of locking a question?
 
Checks the plumbing on his copy of RathRatica
 
@Heike You can't vote on the question, answers, or comments, either.
 
@JM I don't think I've ever seen a Japanese toilet.
 
3:20 PM
@Heike Don't worry, if you ever get to visit Japan, you'll get to try them out...
@rcollyer I wouldn't know. All I know is that you could bludgeon somebody with the manual...
 
Thanks for the backup, bel.
 
@JM you have to be able to lift it first. :)
 
@belisarius That's just weird
 
I recently discovered that Check does not stop execution of the supplied expression when a Message is thrown. I wrote a version that does so (complete with same semantics), any objections to me posting a question/answer pair?
 
3:25 PM
@Heike Par for the course in Japan...
@rcollyer Go for it.
 
@JM figured.
@Heike yes, but the music is specifically so no one outside of the bathroom can hear what is happening inside. The rest is along the lines of: "Oh my God, what did I just press!"
 
@Heike It has more buttons than all my home appliances together
 
@belisarius no dvd player or vcr?
 
@rcollyer Bah, my DVD player (the device itself, not the remote) has less buttons than the pay toilet I used in Akihabara...
 
@rcollyer VCR is defunct. As for dvd, I use plain old PC
 
3:30 PM
@rcollyer So the music is mainly to drown out profanities uttered by people for pressing the wrong button
 
@Heike Or calming them down.
 
@JM my mother-in-law has two combination dvd recorder/vcrs which have a full suite of buttons available in a hidden panel. Almost as much as a toilet. :)
@Heike exactly. No one can hear you scream in a Japanese toilet!
 
I wonder what's next. toilets with voice control?
 
@Heike Not implausible...
Aw jeez, people are upvoting my held integral answer, but not my Thomae function answer... there's a distinct advantage to being first, indeed.
 
3:45 PM
My answer is up, too.
 
acl
3:57 PM
@JM fixed that :)
 
@acl :D
 
acl
never heard the names Thomae's function or Farey sequence before...
 
@acl Lucky for us applied types, monstrosities like Thomae don't show up in practice... :)
Euclid's orchard also makes for a nice way to fake a plot of Thomae's function.
 
acl
@JM actually, sometimes this sort of thing does turn up.
 
@acl Not that many discontinuities...
 
acl
4:03 PM
for example, a BEC in a deep optical lattice, modulated by a periodic potential with a period incommensurate with the lattice, becomes immediately localized. it's pretty hard to study
eg the excitation spectrum is fractal (or would be if you had an infinite system)
this was actually implemented cleanly in an experiment:
 
@acl That's just non-differentiable as opposed to actually discontinuous, no?
 
R.M
@JM answers can be edited and voted as usual... locking only affects the question (and no new answers)
 
@RM Really? I tried voting on a locked question... didn't seem to work.
 
acl
@JM the excitation spectrum of the thing has q bands if the ratio of the periods is p/q
 
R.M
@JM yeah, the question... not the answers
 
acl
4:05 PM
(bands I mean like in solid-state physics)
 
R.M
answers will need to be locked individually
 
@RM Ah, it isn't global. Okay.
@acl I got you, but the function is just nowhere differentiable as opposed to actually choppy like Thomae's, no?
 
acl
@JM well, yes, the spectrum is merely nowhere differentiable I suppose, but that doesn't help me much if I try to do anything with it!
 
@acl Okay, I see what you mean. It's just that dealing with wavelets has made me used to nowhere-differentiable functions...
 
posted on May 14, 2012 by Stephen Wolfram

(This is the third in a series of posts about A New Kind of Science. Previous posts have covered the original reaction to the book and what’s happened since it was published.) Today ten years have passed since A New Kind of Science (“the NKS book”) was published. But in many ways the development that started with [...]

 
acl
4:12 PM
@JM wavelets have been on my list of things to understand for quite a bit of time for both practical and recreational reasons. any suggestions for a short introduction?
 
@acl I actually started with Mallat's book and only moved on to reading Daubechies's original papers much later...
 
acl
let me see if we have it in the library
 
Unfortunately, the bibliography I compiled isn't with me at the moment... so that and the compilation of Daubechies's lectures are the only ones I remember off the top of my head.
Anyway: if you're comfy with Fourier analysis, wavelets shouldn't be too troublesome...
 
acl
@JM yes the idea is clear enough, but I want to play with them a bit to obtain some intuition
and I'd like to do this in some formal way to make sure I don't miss anything
 
@acl "I want to play with them a bit" - then yes, Mallat is an excellent choice.
 
acl
4:21 PM
looks like it is, yes. thanks
 
4:49 PM
@acl: if I may ask, what did you need the simple-minded Laplace transform inversion for?
 
acl
@JM nothing concrete. I was just wondering how you did it (I wrote some code to do this too, to check some analytical results I had, but in the end I was less convinced of the accuracy of the numerical code than of the analytical results it was meant to confirm...)
 
What method did you use, by any chance?
 
acl
@JM I don't want to discuss that :)
(as in, I would rather not admit what I did in public)
 
Okay, sure. :) But, "I was less convinced of the accuracy of the numerical code", well... as I mentioned in that blog post, numerical inversion's a tricky business.
I presume you hadn't seen this book at the time?
 
acl
@JM yes it is...
@JM no, and even if I had, I would not have put in the effort. I am reasonably sure of my analytical result and can check it again by doing the calculation in different ways. I am personally much more likely to screw up a numerical calculation than an analytical one, so I avoid them if possible
thankfully, people like you exist :)
 
5:01 PM
@acl LOL.
 
In Jens answer to the HermitianQ question, he makes the statement that splitting a matrix into a Hermitian/Skew-Hermitian pair like I did is non-unique. But, I'm having trouble coming up with an example. Do either of you know of one?
 
@rcollyer Wait, what? Why wouldn't $\frac12(\mathbf A+\mathbf A^\ast)$ be unique?
 
@JM As far as I know, it should be. They're clearly in separate representations of the inversion group.
 
That's what I thought. Why not have Jens expound further?
 
I pinged him. I was just wondering if anyone knew differently.
 
5:24 PM
@rcollyer I think he means that for a given Hermitian matrix A there infinitely many matrices B such that A=(B+B^*)/2.
 
@Heike Do you have an explicit example?
 
@Heike I have to agree. I don't see it.
 
Well for one, you can interchange B and B*, so A = (B+B*)/2 = (B*+(B*)*)/2
 
Anyway: it wasn't mentioned in that thread, but there's also the option of constructing a positive (semi)definite Hermitian matrix by multiplying some matrix with its conjugate transpose...
 
@Heike Ah, but for a given $B$ isn't $A$ then unique?
 
5:29 PM
@rcollyer Yes
 
Apart from just swapping the matrix and conjugate transpose, nothing else?
 
@Heike And, similarly then, for a given $B$ it's skew-Hermitian counter part $M$ should also be unique.
 
@JM Any matrix B with b[i,j]+b[j,i]* = 2 a[i,j] works
@rcollyer Yes it should
 
@Heike you're right. That's two equations and 4 unknowns. However, the additional equation: b[i, j] - b[j, i]* = 2 m[i, j] would fix the values of $B$.
 
@rcollyer If you know M then B is just A+M
 
5:41 PM
@Heike and that's what I'm getting at. There are numerous matrices which can be used to produce A and M, yet A[B] and M[B] are unique for a given B. Then, is that enough to fix A and M such that B = A + M, uniquely?
 
6:09 PM
@rcollyer Maybe you should ask on math.SE to settle this... :)
 
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A: Computing the genus of an algebraic curve

Daniel LichtblauI will show a method that is conjectural, though i believe it is correct. It differs from the more common approach of using (quadratic) birational transformations to force singularities to be double points. More a detailed approach to that, see Madelina's response. Also I cover the exact case, al...

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I'm pretty sure I had a comment on this and now it's gone. Why?
 
6:29 PM
@Szabolcs Maybe it disappeared during the migration.
 
R.M
@Szabolcs comments with the target site name are deleted automatically... the assumption is that you're recommending posting there.
 
@RM That's not always very productive ... I was linking to possible solutions.
 
R.M
I know... you could make a case on MSO that comments that aren't to the top level URL should not be removed (check for dupes).
 
@JM Right. Like they answered my last question. :P
 
@rcollyer Look, it's a gamble. Sometimes you stump everybody... :P
 
6:38 PM
@JM true. :)
 
 
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8:51 PM
A nice gizmo
 
@PFonseca Yes, the presenter did say they would integrate Time Series into M9. He mentioned Excel integration but didn't show it, and it wasn't in the documentation for the Finance Platform.
Philosophically they do believe in rolling things into the kernel. He explicitly mentioned R and Matlab as products that have lots of addons that don't work together.
 
9:18 PM
ok math wizzes, I'm trying to find a way to show that -Sum[Log[Tanh[a [Pi]/2 (2 n + 1)]], {n, 0, Infinity}] ==Sum[((2 n + 1) Sinh[a [Pi] (2 n + 1)])^-1, {n, 0, Infinity}]; (a > 0 ). I can plot the difference, and it is negligible, but I can't find a good math reference for sums of hyperbolic functions
 
@Verbeia the problem with the Excel add-on is that, as far as I know, it doesn't belong to WR, and so, it's not something they can simply add for free, when they feel it's mature enough for global distribution...
 
Hi, I'm looking for the question where someone asked how to type [[ ]] faster, but my search skills seem to be failing me, I can't find the question anymore
Can anyone link me to it?
 
R.M
9:35 PM
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Q: Automating Esc [[ Esc formatting?

alancalvittiIs it possible to program the Front End to automatically format double square brackets without having to type Esc [[ Esc each time? It's awful to have to type Esc 4 times for each Part expression, and even more annoying to visually parse the unformatted double brackets. See also this entry in Ma...

 
Great, thank you
 
9:48 PM
Follow-up question on this: It seems like it always places two ['s instead of the double bracket symbol itself
 
@tkott Why do you write "[Pi]"?
 
@RM OK, I figured it out, you just need to not edit the .tr file in Mathematica, it's auto-replacing the double bracket character with two brackets upon saving.
 
@belisarius I think that was supposed to be \[Pi] where the backslash has disappeared
 
@Heike oh, yes. I guess that's it. Thanks!
 
10:09 PM
@PFonseca we tried to get them to talk a bit more about it, but they had pitched the presentation at financial risk management and portfolio modelling, which is not what we do.
 
 
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11:56 PM
upvotes are easy here compared to SO...
 

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